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Man I love some Chris Stapleton but C’mon

Zeppelin also denied they copied anything as well.
Spirit opened for Zeppelin one tour. Listen to Spirit's "Taurus". (YouTube, spotify) After the opening orchestral part see if it reminds you of arguably their greatest hit. Randy California's estate sued them and lost.
 
Everybody talks about “Stairway to Heaven” being a ripoff of the Taurus song, which it obviously it. But the one that always got me was “Traveling Riverside Blues” by Robert Johnson. They didn’t even bother to change the name on that one, they just said “here’s ‘Traveling Riverside Blues’ by Led Zeppelin”. I don’t know how you pretend you wrote a song that existed for 30+ years and didn’t even bother to change the name of the song lol. And it’s not like Robert Johnson was obscure at that point, they had the big folk/blues revival of the 60s when Led Zep was starting out.

another big one is Kenny Wayne Sheppard’s “While We Cry”, which is a very blatant ripoff of Pearl Jam’s “Yellow Ledbetter”
 
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Spirit opened for Zeppelin one tour. Listen to Spirit's "Taurus". (YouTube, spotify) After the opening orchestral part see if it reminds you of arguably their greatest hit. Randy California's estate sued them and lost.

And lost. Zep fought that one because they knew they could win.

The ones they knew they'd lose, they settled out of court.




 
Yes, I said they lost but maybe you can help me out here. How did they know they would win? They toured together, Page heard this song, and everyone I've played it for instantly recognised Stairway.
 
Yes, I said they lost but maybe you can help me out here. How did they know they would win? They toured together, Page heard this song, and everyone I've played it for instantly recognised Stairway.

Vanilla Ice (“Ice Ice Baby”) won against Queen (“Under Pressure”). If you could win that one, you could pretty much win anything if you just have a dumbass judge.
 
Ah, so it was a judge not a jury. That LZ IV album was the first album I ever bought. Spirit's "Twelve Dreams of Dr. Sardonicus" is my favourite by them. Pretty Solid. Also like some other albums by them. My musical tastes have changed over the years.
 
Everybody talks about “Stairway to Heaven” being a ripoff of the Taurus song, which it obviously it. But the one that always got me was “Traveling Riverside Blues” by Robert Johnson. They didn’t even bother to change the name on that one, they just said “here’s ‘Traveling Riverside Blues’ by Led Zeppelin”. I don’t know how you pretend you wrote a song that existed for 30+ years and didn’t even bother to change the name of the song lol. And it’s not like Robert Johnson was obscure at that point, they had the big folk/blues revival of the 60s when Led Zep was starting out.

another big one is Kenny Wayne Sheppard’s “While We Cry”, which is a very blatant ripoff of Pearl Jam’s “Yellow Ledbetter”

Check this one out . Just as bad





 
From the Bible, which I ought to read more of:

All things are wearisome, more than one can say. The eye never has enough of seeing, nor the ear its fill of hearing. What has been will be again, what has been done will be done again; there is nothing new under the sun.
Except that there IS always something new under the sun. Every year, since mankind evolved, humanity has created and developed new art, music, science, literature and medical advancements. Every year.
 
Yes, I said they lost but maybe you can help me out here. How did they know they would win? They toured together, Page heard this song, and everyone I've played it for instantly recognised Stairway.
It's not that they don't sound a like. They do. But musicologists testified the descending chord progression has been around a long time and is commonly used. Chimney Chimney from Mary Poppins is an example. The jury didn't believe Page that he never heard the Spirit version, but they still found in Zep's favor. Spirit's version was nothing special.

We wouldn't even be talking about the intro, if it wasn't for the other 8 minutes and 50 seconds of Stairway to Heaven.

Pretty mild "plagarism" compared to Whole Lotta Love, where Plant lifted most of the lyrics straight from the Muddy Waters version.
 
It's not that they don't sound a like. They do. But musicologists testified the descending chord progression has been around a long time and is commonly used. Chimney Chimney from Mary Poppins is an example. The jury didn't believe Page that he never heard the Spirit version, but they still found in Zep's favor. Spirit's version was nothing special.

We wouldn't even be talking about the intro, if it wasn't for the other 8 minutes and 50 seconds of Stairway to Heaven.

Pretty mild "plagarism" compared to Whole Lotta Love, where Plant lifted most of the lyrics straight from the Muddy Waters version.
I was told it was a judge not a jury. And that he was a dumbass. That made sense. And what you said made sense. I remember teaching myself the piano starting at 8 years old. I came up with lines that years later I heard Vangelis make a fortune with.
 
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It's not that they don't sound a like. They do. But musicologists testified the descending chord progression has been around a long time and is commonly used. Chimney Chimney from Mary Poppins is an example. The jury didn't believe Page that he never heard the Spirit version, but they still found in Zep's favor. Spirit's version was nothing special.

We wouldn't even be talking about the intro, if it wasn't for the other 8 minutes and 50 seconds of Stairway to Heaven.

Pretty mild "plagarism" compared to Whole Lotta Love, where Plant lifted most of the lyrics straight from the Muddy Waters version.
Yeah, it was Whole Lotta Love as well as the music in Bring it On Home. And they were actually sued by Willie Dixon, who owned the rights. They settled. It was probably one of the best things that ever happened to him as it introduced blues to a lot of white kids.
 
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Did you think this was a secret? It's a cover that sampled from Etta James and no one has been anything other than forthcoming from it and it's as big as it is because the dude brings soul in his performance.

Bro I’m one of the biggest Chris Stapleton fans out there . He’s an absolute beast . I was totally unaware that his camp acknowledged pretty much arranged the song note for note to Etta’s song . Like I said I don’t understand why he didn’t just cover her song instead of rearranging a cover of a cover of a cover . Lol . Either way I love the guy as an artist . He’s a monster .
 
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Bro I’m one of the biggest Chris Stapleton fans out there . He’s an absolute beast . I was totally unaware that his camp acknowledged pretty much arranged the song note for note to Etta’s song . Like I said I don’t understand why he didn’t just cover her song instead of rearranging a cover of a cover of a cover . Lol . Either way I love the guy as an artist . He’s a monster .
Can't argue with results, he obviously preferred the lyrics to whiskey and it came out great.
 
Yeah, it was Whole Lotta Love as well as the music in Bring it On Home. And they were actually sued by Willie Dixon, who owned the rights. They settled. It was probably one of the best things that ever happened to him as it introduced blues to a lot of white kids.
No doubt. I'm sure his offspring don't mind the royalty checks either.
 
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expat38 quoting Ecclesiastes.

is it true that every time in a public performance someone sings a song that has a copyright or whatever the rights are called in music, that they pay 9 cents to the “owner” of the song? If they record on an album someone else’s song, do they pay 9 cents back to the owner for every album sold? How does that work?
 
expat38 quoting Ecclesiastes.

is it true that every time in a public performance someone sings a song that has a copyright or whatever the rights are called in music, that they pay 9 cents to the “owner” of the song? If they record on an album someone else’s song, do they pay 9 cents back to the owner for every album sold? How does that work?

It’s a weird thing . There is a fee that’s called an ASCAP fee . American society of Composers Artist and Publishers . If a restaurant , bar , venue or any for profit business has music playing they are required to pay ASCAP . If it’s a live band or a radio it doesn’t matter . For instance if I’m in a cover band and I play at Jimmie’s steak and shake Jimmie’s ASCAP payments allow me to play those songs . It’s not cheap but In the restaurant or bar business it’s an expense just like lights , water and food costs . Now how those millions and millions of dollars gets distributed to the artists Is anybody’s guess . Not sure anyone knows . There are always work arounds . Vince McMahon is a prime example . One of his pet peeves was paying for music licensing so he start his own music Department in the WWF so he wouldn’t have to licensing and ASCAP . Other companies have done similar things . Again the amount of dollars that eventually trickles down to the actual songwriter or artist is not much .
 
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