Duke had 3 extra players on the court....They let Duke do whatever they wanted, but Wisconsin couldn't touch on defense...
Okafor was in foul trouble because he's a lesser player when going up against Kaminsky. The fouls usually follow that.Originally posted by 1987cgamecock:
Yeah, I guess that is why duke and okafor were in foul trouble all night.
There isn't one NBA GM that would take Kaminsky over Okafor.Originally posted by cockydev:
Okafor was in foul trouble because he's a lesser player when going up against Kaminsky. The fouls usually follow that.Originally posted by 1987cgamecock:
Yeah, I guess that is why duke and okafor were in foul trouble all night.
I'm sorry - I thought I was watching the NCAA championship last night not an NBA game.Originally posted by lazenge44:
There isn't one NBA GM that would take Kaminsky over Okafor.Originally posted by cockydev:
Okafor was in foul trouble because he's a lesser player when going up against Kaminsky. The fouls usually follow that.Originally posted by 1987cgamecock:
Yeah, I guess that is why duke and okafor were in foul trouble all night.
C'mon, man. Kaminsky is a senior and Okafor is a freshman. Kaminsky averaged 4 point per game as a sophomore.Originally posted by cockydev:
I'm sorry - I thought I was watching the NCAA championship last night not an NBA game.Originally posted by lazenge44:
There isn't one NBA GM that would take Kaminsky over Okafor.Originally posted by cockydev:
Okafor was in foul trouble because he's a lesser player when going up against Kaminsky. The fouls usually follow that.Originally posted by 1987cgamecock:
Yeah, I guess that is why duke and okafor were in foul trouble all night.
Kaminsky was the impact player. Okafor was the hype.
and it's nice to see a player develop over 4 years of college basketball. It's much more appealing than these guys who come to college for one season and leave.Originally posted by DarkCock:
C'mon, man. Kaminsky is a senior and Okafor is a freshman. Kaminsky averaged 4 point per game as a sophomore.Originally posted by cockydev:
I'm sorry - I thought I was watching the NCAA championship last night not an NBA game.Originally posted by lazenge44:
There isn't one NBA GM that would take Kaminsky over Okafor.Originally posted by cockydev:
Okafor was in foul trouble because he's a lesser player when going up against Kaminsky. The fouls usually follow that.Originally posted by 1987cgamecock:
Yeah, I guess that is why duke and okafor were in foul trouble all night.
Kaminsky was the impact player. Okafor was the hype.
This ^^^^^^Originally posted by alston:
There were enough bad calls both ways that it evened out. Not seeing anyone mentioning the missed foul call on the Jones breakaway at the end of the game. Plenty of calls went Wisconsin way in the first half. The refs didn't make any shots for either team.
It's said all the time because it's true. Also, being good and getting a lot of help aren't mutually exclusive. Duke was very good, but every 50/50 call goes their way. It's been that way since the 80s, and folks pretty much take it for what it is now.Originally posted by Quisp:
This is said every time they win. Lather rinse repeat. I dunno maybe, just maybe they're actually good and that's why they win.
Please,Originally posted by caigmaster:
This ^^^^^^Originally posted by alston:
There were enough bad calls both ways that it evened out. Not seeing anyone mentioning the missed foul call on the Jones breakaway at the end of the game. Plenty of calls went Wisconsin way in the first half. The refs didn't make any shots for either team.
Because many teams are able to overcome it. It doesn't make them unbeatable obviously, and I truly believe were they on a completely level playing field, they'd still be a top 3 program in the country. In watching many, many duke games over the years, however it's there ... maybe even unintentionally on the refs' part. No one works the refs as well as Coach K does.Originally posted by Quisp:
"Every 50/50 call goes their way". If you really such a thing then why watch the games? I bring this up every time some fans bring up the same stuff about Bama football. Refs want them to win blah blah blah blah blah.
Go right on believing it but truth is the game is fast paced and the refs aren't the superhuman arbitrators that we think or wish them to be. They will miss calls all the time. It happens. If you focus on the calls that confirm your belief you will find them and those that don't you ignore.
No excuse for missing the call on instant replay. I could easily see that on all angles of replay. No excuse for the refs allowing Kentucky to hit a player in the face and knock him down without a flagrant. Neither of those calls have anything to do fast paced or superhuman.Originally posted by Quisp:
"Every 50/50 call goes their way". If you really such a thing then why watch the games? I bring this up every time some fans bring up the same stuff about Bama football. Refs want them to win blah blah blah blah blah.
Go right on believing it but truth is the game is fast paced and the refs aren't the superhuman arbitrators that we think or wish them to be. They will miss calls all the time. It happens. If you focus on the calls that confirm your belief you will find them and those that don't you ignore.
Who is terrible on defense? Duke? They were by far the best defensive team of the tournament. Not even close.Originally posted by Carolina Bo:
The first half was fine. The second half was all Duke from the refs point of view. Okefore should have fouled out. Terrible on defense.