OT- should marijuana be legalized?
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this is a result of programming and Marxist brainwashing from the education system and news media, people think illicit drugs (against the bible) is what is wrong with society, it should be legal to get high, lol! So many walk in darkness and don't even realize it, sad!
I'm not sure I follow what you just said. I just don't want to pay for other people's addictions.
I mean, I just told you that you're wrong to advocate the use of violence against non-violent people, so obviously I do believe in right and wrong.
This is the same logic that led to Obamacare.
"Funding healthcare is a burden on the public, so we can't allow people to make their own healthcare decisions."
If you want to disqualify drug users from receiving welfare or free healthcare, that's one thing. But you can't just use the provision of a public healthcare as carte blanche to start regulating people's behavior. That's a hideously slippery slope.
Who does, but we do? Is socialized medicine not the ultimate “you pay for my bad judgement system”? I can smoke crack and eat chicken wings for breakfast and chase it down with Ripple but you have to buy me new lungs and a new liver every time I need one.
Actually, the billions that would be saved by legalizing just marijuana could be rolled into public healthcare to defray the costs and would be able to easily cover the cost of rehab for those citizens that can’t handle drugs and alcohol.
Then we should try to roll that back rather than use it as a pretext for further curtailments of freedom.
Doe it not also say Genesis 1:29-31 - And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which [is] upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which [is] the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.”?
You tell me how to interpret that- I am no biblical scholar. It is a terribly ignorant stance to compare Weed to meth as you have done in this thread though. Especially if you are using the bible as you guide to do so.
But you willingly pay for a war against them? Double, triple perhaps ten fold the cost it could cost to treat the people addicted to them instead of hunting them and locking them away? I fail to see the logic in that id money is the motivation.
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You're saying that as if my bible is your bible. We follow different beliefs. Mine doesn't say "be sober minded and self controlled". That may be in your interpretation of the bible, but not mine. There are literally THOUSANDS of interpretations of that book. Feel free to live your life based on your belief, as long as it doesn't negatively affect those outside your faith. And again, in no way should ANY of those interpretations influence the laws that govern all of us.
MJ in Illinois is absolutely outrageous. Thats what I've been told anyways lol Heard California and Colorado were much more reasonable lol
By supporting the war on drugs instead of an end to it you seem to be in support of it.
That is a big swing. Not to derail, but I think gay marriage may have taken a similar or bigger swing. Now it is legal, so maybe weed is next.I think that's a safe assumption.
Honestly I can't think of ANY issue during my lifetime where public opinion has swung so dramatically.
The Bible is up to interpretation. I think most of not all of the oldest manuscripts were written in archaic languages that haven't been spoken in centuries - like Aramaic and ancient Hebrew. Heck, the OT had no punctuation. The reality is that most of the OT was passed down orally 100s of years before it was written down, and once it was, there were no copy machines or ctrl-c, ctrl-v to make exact copies. We have ancient pieces of manuscripts of the same passages that don't say the same thing. Which is right? Which is closer to the theoretical original? Every translation involves interpretation. We believers have to study and discuss in community and realise that we may, indeed, be wrong in our interpretation. Better yet, we may realize that our interpretation of a given passage may not even matter.
Yeah that's a good point. I actually thought of that right after I posted, and it is a very similar trajectory.
Gotta get rid of beer and coffee. Clean these drugs up off the street
My concern is with young people. Studies have shown a negative impact on people younger than 26. It takes that long for the brain to fully develop. It can affect memory and IQ in young people. Some studies have shown as much as an 8 point drop in IQ if used on a regular basis. Don't know how you keep it from young people younger than 21 much less 26.
The way I look at is a 18 year old is an adult free to make decisons on his own. That should be his or her choice. Not big brothers.
For what it’s worth, the word sober can be interpreted in a number of ways. Also, some Christians advocate that Jesus made wine that was non-alcoholic.
Saying the Bible isn't open to interpretation is just a mind-blowingly myopic statement.
The books of the Bible were written by men.
Debated and voted in by men.
Men who chose the 66 some odd included from thousands of proposed options.
Men who wrote and chose what they did based on ulterior motives, personal gain, prejudices and so on.
To use the Bible as a reason to be against legalization of Marijuana is just gobsmacking to me
Why should big brother be able to tell me what I can and can not put in my body?
Who exactly says it’s wrong to get “high”? Might I ask? Why exactly does me thinking it’s ok to get high make me belive there is no right and wrong? I just don’t understand your logic.
people try their best to twist and bend the bible to mean whatever they want, however the words are the same today as they were when they were written. You can't just choose a few passages you agree with, then ignore or claim "mistranslation" for the ones you don't.
Actually the words aren’t the same today as when they were written. How many English versions of the Bible are there (all of which are accepted versions)? Upwards of 50? They are all different in some way with either the wording or specific words. The themes are obviously the same, but wording has been changed as translations get better, or are better understood for meaning in the time periods they were written. And sometimes it’s changed to more align with modern beliefs (or what some in the modern world want it to say).
But the individual words and their interpretation are very important, especially when people use them to deny rights to others.
So what version of the Bible (it doesn’t have to be an English one if you want to get into a deep cut), is the definitive word of God (more so than any other version)?
Either you're being sarcastic, in which case kudos to you sir, well played!!!
Or I'm to assume you don't eat shellfish, wear clothing that's not 100% cotton (like a poly-cotton blend), you're not involved in any loan activity such as a home mortgage, don't have any tattoos, and so on and so forth.
I'm a person of deep faith and a Christian, but asketh though to giveth me a freakin' break 😅
Technically, the words are the same as when they were written.
But yes, people continually work on and change translations into different languages.
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