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There is a group of wussies who want the March Madness games be played in

I'm going to defer to the opinion of scientists over the rantings of a poster on this board.

And look where scientists got us today.. They don't have a clue on the coronavirus...

People who uses common sense has better knowledge than these so called scientists...

Mom know more than scientists - Wash your hands, cover your cough, wipe down every thing with Lysol and get your flu shot...

It won't stop the spread of coronavirus, but it's better preventive measures...
 
There's no question that Coronavirus has been overblown. The liberals and the media have stirred up such a frenzy, you're starting to see a push back from folks against all the hysteria. That said, the timing of March Madness could be unfortunate. IF, and at this point it's a large IF, the virus does start to spread folks could be skittish about tightly packing themselves into arenas.
 
Switzerland's Hockey Leagues are now playing in empty rinks.
The Swiss government put a ban on all gatherings over 1,000 people for the purpose and I quote " This is a precaution against the spread of the coronavirus"
France now has banned large indoor gatherings as well.
These governments are taking steps in an attempt to curb the spread of the virus within their borders. I don't see how taking measured and reasonable actions equates to being "wussies".

https://www.espn.com/nhl/story/_/id...agues-play-no-fans-amid-outbreak?platform=amp

https://www.france24.com/en/20200229-france-bans-large-public-gatherings-to-slow-coronavirus-spread
 
Switzerland's Hockey Leagues are now playing in empty rinks.
The Swiss government put a ban on all gatherings over 1,000 people for the purpose and I quote " This is a precaution against the spread of the coronavirus"
France now has banned large indoor gatherings as well.
These governments are taking steps in an attempt to curb the spread of the virus within their borders. I don't see how taking measured and reasonable actions equates to being "wussies".

https://www.espn.com/nhl/story/_/id...agues-play-no-fans-amid-outbreak?platform=amp

https://www.france24.com/en/20200229-france-bans-large-public-gatherings-to-slow-coronavirus-spread


Bully for them...
 
Switzerland's Hockey Leagues are now playing in empty rinks.
The Swiss government put a ban on all gatherings over 1,000 people for the purpose and I quote " This is a precaution against the spread of the coronavirus"
France now has banned large indoor gatherings as well.
These governments are taking steps in an attempt to curb the spread of the virus within their borders. I don't see how taking measured and reasonable actions equates to being "wussies".

https://www.espn.com/nhl/story/_/id...agues-play-no-fans-amid-outbreak?platform=amp


I don't think it makes anyone wussies and every country is certainly free to take whatever steps they feel necessary to prevent spread of the virus. It's just that it's all a bit of an overreaction to a virus that is really spreading rather slowly. There's really nothing scary about this virus, except that it's new. You look at the spread an it's nothing near exponential, which is what you would expect for a true pandemic. It's spreading, but slowly and mostly affecting those who already have other medical issues. The death rate for healthy individuals is less than 1%.
 
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I'm going to defer to the opinion of scientists over the rantings of a poster on this board.
Are those same scientists recommending the same to avoid the flu - The flu, which has killed THOUSANDS in the US this year (according to the CDC )??

The corona virus is definitely something that deserves our attention, but not the media-frenzy we're currently seeing.
 
I think the people that made that request (the National College Players Association) did so under the guise of student-athlete welfare, but really they were just looking to get some publicity by making big statements they knew would get coverage. They're trying to position themselves as the voice of all the athletes as pay-for-play gets closer.

That said, I'll bet the NCAA is monitoring this situation closely as they'll at least have to show some level of strategic thinking to show spread-prevention if there is any significant infection in any host cities. Though a lot of ticket brokers could lose a fortune if people don't show up.
 
I think the people that made that request (the National College Players Association) did so under the guise of student-athlete welfare, but really they were just looking to get some publicity by making big statements they knew would get coverage. They're trying to position themselves as the voice of all the athletes as pay-for-play gets closer.

That said, I'll bet the NCAA is monitoring this situation closely as they'll at least have to show some level of strategic thinking to show spread-prevention if there is any significant infection in any host cities. Though a lot of ticket brokers could lose a fortune if people don't show up.

The NCAA has the money to repay the vendors, TV and Cities for the losses...
 
All this being sad, there is a better chance of the Olympics being cancelled than to have empty arenas here within the next month unless things change drastically. I do believe the Olympics are in jeopardy though.
 
And look where scientists got us today.. They don't have a clue on the coronavirus...

People who uses common sense has better knowledge than these so called scientists...

Mom know more than scientists - Wash your hands, cover your cough, wipe down every thing with Lysol and get your flu shot...

It won't stop the spread of coronavirus, but it's better preventive measures...
Took me a second to realize you were just pretending to be an idiot.
 
I don't think it makes anyone wussies and every country is certainly free to take whatever steps they feel necessary to prevent spread of the virus. It's just that it's all a bit of an overreaction to a virus that is really spreading rather slowly. There's really nothing scary about this virus, except that it's new. You look at the spread an it's nothing near exponential, which is what you would expect for a true pandemic. It's spreading, but slowly and mostly affecting those who already have other medical issues. The death rate for healthy individuals is less than 1%.
This was the title of thread, so apparently the OP thinks so.
 
And look where scientists got us today.. They don't have a clue on the coronavirus...

People who uses common sense has better knowledge than these so called scientists...

Mom know more than scientists - Wash your hands, cover your cough, wipe down every thing with Lysol and get your flu shot...

It won't stop the spread of coronavirus, but it's better preventive measures...
Your mom invent Lysol or the flu shot or anti bacterial soap? I know mine didn't. She still thinks you get sick by going outside in the winter without proper winter clothing, nevermind the fact we don't even have real winters anymore lol
 
Are those same scientists recommending the same to avoid the flu - The flu, which has killed THOUSANDS in the US this year (according to the CDC )??

The corona virus is definitely something that deserves our attention, but not the media-frenzy we're currently seeing.
it is all a hoax. i read somewhere libs are injecting themselves with the virus just to make our government look bad. dastardly
japan shut down their schools for a month.....those fools.....
 
Your mom invent Lysol or the flu shot or anti bacterial soap? I know mine didn't. She still thinks you get sick by going outside in the winter without proper winter clothing, nevermind the fact we don't even have real winters anymore lol
never go outside after you shampoo & your hair is wet, you will get sick.
 
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Arenas without fans so we won't get the coronavirus spread....

Why don't we wrap ourselves in plastic bubble???? Oh , sorry, plastic isn't environmental friendly and banned in most cities...
If you have cold or flu-like symptoms (especially coughing and/or sneezing) common sense says don't go to a place where you will be in close quarters with lots of other people. Ideally that would include commercial airplanes, but at least wear a mask if you can't change the flight.

Right?
 
The cor
Are those same scientists recommending the same to avoid the flu - The flu, which has killed THOUSANDS in the US this year (according to the CDC )??

The corona virus is definitely something that deserves our attention, but not the media-frenzy we're currently seeing.
The media has overhyped to some extent and our federal government has almost criminally ignored it.

Flu deaths in America have averaged 61,000 annually for the last decade. With a mortality rate in the worst year of 00.5% of all people infected which in the worst year was less than 15% of the population Most of these deaths have been the young, elderly and immuno comprised.
The corona virus APPEARS to be much more contagious than the flu with estimates ranging from a possible 40 to 70% infection in America. At present it has a 2-3% mortality rate and is killing healthy people. Do the math and if the scientist are correct that would be anywhere from 3 to 10 million deaths in America alone. Serious stuff.
Please remember your history the 1919-1920 flu epidemic killed over 100 million people worldwide.
Somewhere Stephen King is holed up in a clean room taking notes
 
All this being sad, there is a better chance of the Olympics being cancelled than to have empty arenas here within the next month unless things change drastically. I do believe the Olympics are in jeopardy though.

I hope not, I love the Olympics.
 
And look where scientists got us today.. They don't have a clue on the coronavirus...

People who uses common sense has better knowledge than these so called scientists...

Mom know more than scientists - Wash your hands, cover your cough, wipe down every thing with Lysol and get your flu shot...

It won't stop the spread of coronavirus, but it's better preventive measures...
Dude.

You gonna have someone with 'commonsense' do your heart surgery?
 
Fun to see the passive political talk but what our forum really needs is full on politics! Open it up Moderators. What could happen?........
 
People who think avoid or cancelling larg3 fan attended events are wussies are the same people who make it impossible to control something like this. They could enact a quarantine city and these same dummies will say “I’m not worried about no stinking beer virus. And drive right over and visit a retirement home and cough on their buffet lunch. Ridiculous.

I am curious to see if the death rate here drops due to better treatment than China.

With that said I’m not worried for the healthy members of my family but for example my mom has a number of health issues at 75 and it could be bad. Will she listen if it was suggested to stop going to food placed for a sandwich and let someone bring her groceries, I’m sure she won’t. Hardheaded.
 
People who think avoid or cancelling larg3 fan attended events are wussies are the same people who make it impossible to control something like this.
If it is as contagious as it appears and carriers can go days or weeks without showing symptoms, I think it's a fallacy to assume it can be "controlled." Cancelling fan events may make people feel better and may potentially _slow_ the spread, but unless those 18,000 people plan on staying in their homes for 2 or 3 weeks, it's going to spread anyway.

I'm not arguing in favor of playing the games in the middle of a national epidemic (which we don't have yet), but once we have a national epidemic, I think such cancellations will be mostly window-dressing.

Since this thread descended into politics (virtually every OT thread does), I'll suggest that perhaps the smartest people on the left might be Pete Buttigieg and Amy Klobuchar. Can you imagine traveling from state to state right now while shaking tens of thousands of hands per day? Whatever other reasons they may have had for dropping out, the prospect of shaking all those grubby hands would have been reason enough.
 
Trade off - watch games on TV

Upside - life for you and your loved ones

Seems like a really tough decision.
 
“People often compare the flu to COVID-19, but we have a vaccine to prevent and medications to treat the flu. Right now, we have no medications or vaccine for COVID-19," says Dr. Manisha Juthani, MD, a Yale Medicine infectious disease specialist.

Researchers still aren't sure how contagious COVID-19 is compared to other viruses, but it appears to spread more rapidly than the flu.

“In Public health we measure something called the R0 (pronounced 'R-naught') which is the average number of people infected by a person with the virus,” says Dr Jeremy Brown, Director of the Office of Emergency Care Research at the National Institutes of Health. He goes on to explain that the R0 for influenza is about 1.3, meaning about 1.3 people get the virus from every ten who have the infection. Measles, on the other hand, is extremely contagious, with an R0 of 12-18. “We are still not sure what the R0 is for coronavirus, but it appears to be about 2.0, which is about the same as SARS,” Dr. Brown continues. “These are early estimates though and are likely to change as we get better data.”

Another thing that makes the coronavirus a bit more dangerous? That there are so many unknowns attached to it—unlike the flu which has been studied for decades. "Despite the morbidity and mortality with influenza, there's a certainty … of seasonal flu. I can tell you all, guaranteed, that as we get into March and April, the flu cases are going to go down. You could predict pretty accurately what the range of the mortality is and the hospitalizations [will be]," Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, said in a White House press conference on Jan. 31. "The issue now with [COVID-19] is that there's a lot of unknowns."



And look where scientists got us today.. They don't have a clue on the coronavirus...

People who uses common sense has better knowledge than these so called scientists...

Mom know more than scientists - Wash your hands, cover your cough, wipe down every thing with Lysol and get your flu shot...

It won't stop the spread of coronavirus, but it's better preventive measures...
 
And look where scientists got us today.. They don't have a clue on the coronavirus...

People who uses common sense has better knowledge than these so called scientists...

Mom know more than scientists - Wash your hands, cover your cough, wipe down every thing with Lysol and get your flu shot...

It won't stop the spread of coronavirus, but it's better preventive measures...

PT Barnum most cities haven’t banned plastic. Damn Hollywood couldn’t make up good ol boy craziness down here. Sheesh...
 
“People often compare the flu to COVID-19, but we have a vaccine to prevent and medications to treat the flu. Right now, we have no medications or vaccine for COVID-19," says Dr. Manisha Juthani, MD, a Yale Medicine infectious disease specialist.

Researchers still aren't sure how contagious COVID-19 is compared to other viruses, but it appears to spread more rapidly than the flu.

“In Public health we measure something called the R0 (pronounced 'R-naught') which is the average number of people infected by a person with the virus,” says Dr Jeremy Brown, Director of the Office of Emergency Care Research at the National Institutes of Health. He goes on to explain that the R0 for influenza is about 1.3, meaning about 1.3 people get the virus from every ten who have the infection. Measles, on the other hand, is extremely contagious, with an R0 of 12-18. “We are still not sure what the R0 is for coronavirus, but it appears to be about 2.0, which is about the same as SARS,” Dr. Brown continues. “These are early estimates though and are likely to change as we get better data.”

Another thing that makes the coronavirus a bit more dangerous? That there are so many unknowns attached to it—unlike the flu which has been studied for decades. "Despite the morbidity and mortality with influenza, there's a certainty … of seasonal flu. I can tell you all, guaranteed, that as we get into March and April, the flu cases are going to go down. You could predict pretty accurately what the range of the mortality is and the hospitalizations [will be]," Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, said in a White House press conference on Jan. 31. "The issue now with [COVID-19] is that there's a lot of unknowns."
 
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