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Univ. of Texas President takes jab from senator

“That’s without a winning football team,” Kolkhorst responded.

“We’ve been winning, just not like we like to win,” Hartzell said.

“3-7 against the Horned Frogs,” Kolkhorst quipped. “Perhaps you’d rather lose to Alabama than TCU.”

^^^ What does this have anything to do with the issue that they were discussing, and why were they even discussing this at all, in a special meeting to boot? Let me make it really simple, she's $hit-talking in a Senate meeting. Kind of unbecoming if you ask me, but a politician is gonna politician.
 
I don’t understand some asking why the Texas State Senate would be questioning Texas- a state school- leaving their conference. Besides UT, there are 3 other Texas colleges in that conference which will no doubt face major negative economic impacts because of this move. So trash talking aside, I can certainly see why it’s an issue for the state senate to be discussing.
 
And there isn't a soul at Texas that gives one whit what anybody with TCU, Baylor, Texas Tech, or even TAMU, has to say. They can whine and cry all they want.
 
I don’t understand some asking why the Texas State Senate would be questioning Texas- a state school- leaving their conference. Besides UT, there are 3 other Texas colleges in that conference which will no doubt face major negative economic impacts because of this move. So trash talking aside, I can certainly see why it’s an issue for the state senate to be discussing.

"I'm from the government and I'm here to help."

Name a better horror story.
 
What are the meetings for? Is the senate going to tell TX "sorry, you can't join"? TX going to tell the SEC sorry but we're backing out? It's a done deal, this senate stuff is all posturing (and I loathe posturing). TX did their due diligence way before any of us knew anything about this. If anything was to come to a vote, they knew they had as many as or more than they needed a long time ago.
 
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What are the meetings for? Is the senate going to tell TX "sorry, you can't join"? TX going to tell the SEC sorry but we're backing out? It's a done deal, this senate stuff is all posturing (and I loathe posturing). TX did their due diligence way before any of us knew anything about this. If anything was to come to a vote, they knew they had as many as or more than they needed a long time ago.
My position since news of this first broke. I mused at all the people throwing suggestions out there about a couple of teams leaving the SEC. They were all in the loop to begin with. Only A&M had to posture a little bit to be consistent with their previous pronouncements.
 
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She can whine all she wants but she wasn't wrong. I thought it was funny as crap...the Look on his face was priceless.
Nobody said she was wrong, but all of those other schools in the state could go undefeated and they still don't bring anything to the table close to Texas.
 
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I am still shocked that Texas Christian is 7-2 or 7-3 against Texas since Texas Christian joined the Big 12. I do not want to take anything away from the Frogs since they have been competitive but Texas should of beaten the Frogs more than that.
 
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“That’s without a winning football team,” Kolkhorst responded.

“We’ve been winning, just not like we like to win,” Hartzell said.

“3-7 against the Horned Frogs,” Kolkhorst quipped. “Perhaps you’d rather lose to Alabama than TCU.”

^^^ What does this have anything to do with the issue that they were discussing, and why were they even discussing this at all, in a special meeting to boot? Let me make it really simple, she's $hit-talking in a Senate meeting. Kind of unbecoming if you ask me, but a politician is gonna politician.
You think that's unbecoming? You should look up some of the punches Winston Churchill threw in the House of Commons
 
There's 8 other teams in the Big12 that are pretty butt-hurt. In the two weeks since the OU/TX news broke, anywhere the other 8 teams have looked they've been told, "You don't matter."

That has to be soul crushing to hear that about something that you really care about.

But, you know what? TCU may not have mattered before that state senator got a small jibe in on the TX president. After that Texas state senator got that dig in? TCU still doesn't matter...
 
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Well politicians do love these chances to use their prepared questions and one liners on the subjects in front of the camera.
 
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She can whine all she wants but she wasn't wrong. I thought it was funny as crap...the Look on his face was priceless.
And yet it’s the stupid rule of the state senate that caused the best qb in the country to skip his senior year of high school to go to Ohio state so he can cash in on NIL
 
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What has them really frustrated is all of this was timed to explode right after the regular session of the Legislature was over, so the Legislature can't do anything until they reconvene in January of 2023, when it will all be ancient history by then. Note this is in the Senate where the Lt Gov put all the most rabid TCU, Tech and Baylor senators on this committee so they can vent. The Senate can pass whatever it wants to, but the Speaker of the House is a Texas grad and will never let a bill even come to a vote in the House. Even if he did, the Governor is a Texas grad and would veto it. To override a veto they need crazy percentages in both Houses, it is so hard only one bill since 1941 has been passed over a Governor's veto. Even if a bill did pass, Texas lawyers would say it violates the Texas Constitution, enjoin action under the law, and where is venue for those types of lawsuits? Austin, Travis County, Texas as the state capital. So they would have to appeal that injunction to the Texas Supreme Court, which gets there about 2028 at the earliest. Who here thinks the Big 12 still exists in 2028? Or that after 3 to 6 years of playing in the SEC, a Supreme Court would order Texas back to the Big 12?

In other words, this was all political theatre for their constituents in Lubbock, Waco and Fort Worth.
 
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The funnier part of the hearing was old Senator Whitmire. He is from Houston and was assumed to be a University of Houston fan who hates UT-Austin, so they put him on. But he mocked all of the TCU, Baylor and Tech senators throughout the hearing.
 
What has them really frustrated is all of this was timed to explode right after the regular session of the Legislature was over, so the Legislature can't do anything until they reconvene in January of 2023, when it will all be ancient history by then. Note this is in the Senate where the Lt Gov put all the most rabid TCU, Tech and Baylor senators on this committee so they can vent. The Senate can pass whatever it wants to, but the Speaker of the House is a Texas grad and will never let a bill even come to a vote in the House. Even if he did, the Governor is a Texas grad and would veto it. To override a veto they need crazy percentages in both Houses, it is so hard only one bill since 1941 has been passed over a Governor's veto. Even if a bill did pass, Texas lawyers would say it violates the Texas Constitution, enjoin action under the law, and where is venue for those types of lawsuits? Austin, Travis County, Texas as the state capital. So they would have to appeal that injunction to the Texas Supreme Court, which gets there about 2028 at the earliest. Who here thinks the Big 12 still exists in 2028? Or that after 3 to 6 years of playing in the SEC, a Supreme Court would order Texas back to the Big 12?

In other words, this was all political theatre for their constituents in Lubbock, Waco and Fort Worth.
Great explanation.

Completely agree...theatre, posturing. They can't do a damn thing about it, it's a done deal.
 
What has them really frustrated is all of this was timed to explode right after the regular session of the Legislature was over, so the Legislature can't do anything until they reconvene in January of 2023, when it will all be ancient history by then. Note this is in the Senate where the Lt Gov put all the most rabid TCU, Tech and Baylor senators on this committee so they can vent. The Senate can pass whatever it wants to, but the Speaker of the House is a Texas grad and will never let a bill even come to a vote in the House. Even if he did, the Governor is a Texas grad and would veto it. To override a veto they need crazy percentages in both Houses, it is so hard only one bill since 1941 has been passed over a Governor's veto. Even if a bill did pass, Texas lawyers would say it violates the Texas Constitution, enjoin action under the law, and where is venue for those types of lawsuits? Austin, Travis County, Texas as the state capital. So they would have to appeal that injunction to the Texas Supreme Court, which gets there about 2028 at the earliest. Who here thinks the Big 12 still exists in 2028? Or that after 3 to 6 years of playing in the SEC, a Supreme Court would order Texas back to the Big 12?

In other words, this was all political theatre for their constituents in Lubbock, Waco and Fort Worth.
Not a proud moment for TX state government. Seems to be the norm.
 
Not a proud moment for TX state government. Seems to be the norm.
Texas fans point out that they had a terrible rape scandal with the football team at Baylor. Bad enough Art Briles the head coach had to resign. Yet not ten seconds of legislative hearings on that issue, but six hours on what football conference Texas should be in.
 
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