LOL.... Okay, Whatever you say. I am not a Dawn Staley fan, but respect her Coachiing ability, and appreciate her winning at SC, but also respect people that like her "style" and those that dont..
WBB going forward
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Yep….Geno has landed a boatload of talent that will keep him at the top for at least five years. Dawn is just so over the top that many parents don’t want their children under her influence.
Is it any more than just the ebb and flow of the game? UCONN was on top for a long time. Then we overtook them for a period. Now they are surging again.
I do agree that Dawn has gone a little Hollywood these last few years and probably needs to reign it in some if she plans on getting back on top. However, I can't think of another coach in WBB I would count on more than her to get it done if she's still motivated to do so.
I do agree that Dawn has gone a little Hollywood these last few years and probably needs to reign it in some if she plans on getting back on top. However, I can't think of another coach in WBB I would count on more than her to get it done if she's still motivated to do so.
Can you name another WBB coach who has signed more 5 star players than Dawn these past 5 years? Obviously the parents of highly rated players want their children under her influence.
utter stupidity is a sign of your mental decline.
Posts like yours are an example that no matter that some people are exceptional in sports, it's never good enough when your own personal biases are unreasonable and would never be applied to someone you like, no matter how poorly they perform.
In the 2025 rankings, we are one of three teams in the country with 2 recruits ranked in the top 15. UCONN isn't one of them. We are ranked 4th in the team rankings, ahead of UCONN.
In the writeups for the rankings, they remind any idiots out there that Coach Staley has won 3 national championships at South Carolina, including a little over a year ago.
Anyone taking shots at Dawn's coaching achievements a little over a year off winning a national title is a lunatic.
Another perspective that might not be the prevailing one on a barely used message board dominated by middle aged and older men
my daughter is in high school. She's not on the basketball team but one of her best friends is on the high school team. She has told me a number of times that Dawn Staley is like ROYALTY with girls on the team. They have a UVA poster up on the wall with her picture on it in the hallway outside their gym, plus pictures of the first national championship at South Carolina.
I have a customer in the low-country area that works with a number of after school programs. When I was walking through one of those program locations late last year, I saw our women's basketball posters up in 2 of their center locations.
Last year, I was at a school district in the upstate. When walking through their admin offices at the district office, I briefly met their district coordinator for athletics. When she found out I went to South Carolina, she told me that Dawn Staley and the Gamecocks were the biggest thing going with their high school girl's teams.
2020
UCONN 3
South Carolina 1
2021
UCONN 3
South Carolina 4
2022
UCONN 2
South Carolina 2
2023
UCONN 2 (Edited to add 1 player)
South Carolina 2
2024
UCONN 3
South Carolina 3
2025
UCONN 1
South Carolina 2
Total
UCONN 14
South Carolina 14
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Gomey - You've listed 6 seasons above and no sources?
Here you go:
Comprehensive Analysis of 5-Star Recruit Signings in Women's College Basketball (2020-2024)
This analysis delves into the recruiting trends for women's college basketball over the past five years, focusing on the number of 5-star recruits signed by various schools from 2020 to 2024. The data is derived from recruiting rankings provided by ESPN, which are widely recognized for their comprehensive coverage of high school basketball prospects. The goal is to identify which schools have been most successful in attracting the highest-rated talents, defined as 5-star recruits, typically the top 10-20 players in each class based on their potential and performance.
Methodology
The approach involved reviewing the top 10 recruits from each recruiting class from 2020 to 2024, as listed in ESPN's HoopGurlz Recruiting Rankings and related articles. These top recruits are assumed to be 5-star players, given their high rankings, and their committed schools were noted. The total number of such recruits per school was then aggregated to determine the leaders over the five-year period. This method ensures consistency, though it may underrepresent schools with 5-star recruits ranked just outside the top 10, which is a limitation acknowledged in this analysis.
Year-by-Year Breakdown
Below is a detailed breakdown of the top recruits (assumed 5-star) for each year, along with their committed schools, based on the available data from ESPN and other sources.
2020 Recruiting Class
The 2020 class was notable, featuring players like Paige Bueckers and Caitlin Clark. The top 10 recruits and their schools are as follows:
| Rank | Name | School |
|---|---|---|
| 1 | Paige Bueckers | UConn |
| 2 | Angel Reese | LSU |
| 3 | Cameron Brink | Stanford |
| 4 | Caitlin Clark | Iowa |
| 5 | Kamilla Cardoso | South Carolina |
| 6 | Diamond Johnson | Norfolk State |
| 7 | Hailey Van Lith | LSU |
| 8 | Sydney Parrish | Indiana |
| 9 | Priscilla Williams | Oregon |
| 10 | Deja Kelly | UNC |
- Totals for 2020: UConn (1), LSU (2), Stanford (1), Iowa (1), South Carolina (1), Norfolk State (1), Indiana (1), Oregon (1), UNC (1).
The 2021 class saw strong performances from schools like UConn and South Carolina, with the top 10 recruits as follows:
| Rank | Name | School |
|---|---|---|
| 1 | Azzi Fudd | UConn |
| 2 | Raven Johnson | South Carolina |
| 3 | Saniya Rivers | South Carolina |
| 4 | Sania Feagin | South Carolina |
| 5 | Caroline Ducharme | UConn |
| 6 | Aaliyah Moore | Texas |
| 7 | Jersey Wolfenbarger | Arkansas |
| 8 | Olivia Miles | Notre Dame |
| 9 | Teonni Key | UNC |
| 10 | Rori Harmon | Texas |
- Totals for 2021: UConn (2), South Carolina (3), Texas (2), Arkansas (1), Notre Dame (1), UNC (1).
The 2022 class included talents like Lauren Betts and Kiki Rice, with the top 10 recruits as follows:
| Rank | Name | School |
|---|---|---|
| 1 | Lauren Betts | Stanford |
| 2 | Kiki Rice | UCLA |
| 3 | Janiah Barker | Texas A&M |
| 4 | Ayanna Patterson | UConn |
| 5 | Isuneh Brady | UConn |
| 6 | Timea Gardiner | Oregon State |
| 7 | Chance Gray | Oregon |
| 8 | Aaliyah Gayles | USC |
| 9 | Maya Nnaji | Arizona |
| 10 | Raegan Beers | Oregon State |
- Totals for 2022: Stanford (1), UCLA (1), Texas A&M (1), UConn (2), Oregon State (2), Oregon (1), USC (1), Arizona (1).
The 2023 class saw LSU and Duke making significant signings, with the top recruits including:
| Rank | Name | School |
|---|---|---|
| 1 | Judea Watkins | USC |
| 2 | Mikaylah Williams | LSU |
| 3 | Jadyn Donovan | Duke |
| 4 | Ciera Toomey | UNC |
| 5 | Hannah Hidalgo | Notre Dame |
| 6 | Kamorea Arnold | UConn |
| 7 | Aalyah Del Rosario | LSU |
| 8 | Montaya Dew | Arizona |
- Totals for 2023: USC (1), LSU (2), Duke (1), UNC (1), Notre Dame (1), UConn (1), Arizona (1).
The 2024 class featured strong classes for Texas and UConn, with the top recruits including:
| Rank | Name | School |
|---|---|---|
| 2 | Joyce Edwards | South Carolina |
| 4 | Allie Ziebell | UConn |
| 6 | Kennedy Smith | USC |
| 7 | Justice Carlton | Texas |
| 8 | Jordan Lee | Texas |
| 9 | Toby Fournier | Duke |
| 11 | Syla Swords | Michigan |
| 15 | Olivia Olson | Michigan |
| 18 | Morgan Cheli | UConn |
| 19 | Arianna Roberson | Duke |
- Totals for 2024: South Carolina (1), UConn (2), USC (1), Texas (2), Duke (2), Michigan (2).
To determine the schools with the most 5-star recruits, we sum the totals from each year, focusing on the top recruits listed, which are assumed to be 5-star players. The final counts are as follows:
| School | 2020 | 2021 | 2022 | 2023 | 2024 | Total |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| UConn | 1 | 2 | 2 | 1 | 2 | 8 |
| South Carolina | 1 | 3 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 5 |
| LSU | 2 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 0 | 4 |
| Texas | 0 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 4 |
| Duke | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 2 | 3 |
| USC | 0 | 0 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 3 |
| UNC | 1 | 1 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 3 |
| Stanford | 1 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 2 |
| UCLA | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 1 | 2 |
| Notre Dame | 0 | 1 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 2 |
| Oregon State | 0 | 0 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 2 |
| Arizona | 0 | 0 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 2 |
| Michigan | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 2 |
| Oregon | 1 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 2 |
| Iowa | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 |
| Norfolk State | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 |
| Indiana | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 |
| Texas A&M | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 |
| Arkansas | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 |
Gomey - You've listed 6 seasons above and no sources?
ESPN Hoop Gurlz is the source. They rank the top players by number of stars and Hoop Gurlz actually scouts the players and publishes the analysis.
I included the most recent class of 2025 which makes sense given that's the most recent signed class and it would be quite odd to leave the most current class out given the discussion by a few was taking pot shots at how the parents of players see Dawn compared to Geno.
If someone wants to eliminate 2025, but include 2020, I'd say that's pretty damn strange given the discussion regarding how parents see the two coaches. Who gives a shit about 2020 in such a discussion compared to 2025? No one with any sense.
But including 2020, South Carolina leads UCONN. Eliminating 2020, South Carolina still leads UCONN.
But, I included 2020 because that's the last year UCONN signed more 5-star players than South Carolina.
2025 class
5 star players - South Carolina - Makeer at #6. McDowell at #15.
5 star players UCONN - FIsher at #26
2025 HoopGurlz Recruiting Rankings - espnW 100 - ESPN
Get the inside scoop on the top ranked high school girls' basketball players. In-depth player briefings, film and more on ESPNHS.com.
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ESPN Hoop Gurlz is the source. They rank the top players by number of stars and Hoop Gurlz actually scouts the players and publishes the analysis.
I included the most recent class of 2025 which makes sense given that's the most recent signed class and it would be quite odd to leave the most current class out given the discussion by a few was taking pot shots at how the parents of players see Dawn compared to Geno.
If someone wants to eliminate 2025, but include 2020, I'd say that's pretty damn strange given the discussion regarding how parents see the two coaches. Who gives a shit about 2020 in such a discussion compared to 2025? No one with any sense.
But including 2020, South Carolina leads UCONN. Eliminating 2020, South Carolina still leads UCONN.
But, I included 2020 because that's the last year UCONN signed more 5-star players than South Carolina.
2025 class
5 star players - South Carolina - Makeer at #6. McDowell at #15.
5 star players UCONN - FIsher at #26
2025 HoopGurlz Recruiting Rankings - espnW 100 - ESPN
Get the inside scoop on the top ranked high school girls' basketball players. In-depth player briefings, film and more on ESPNHS.com.www.espn.com
Well 2025 WBB Signing runs until August 1, 2025.
Today's recruit tend to bounce around before that deadline.
If that happens, then a revision will be necessary. But I think the current status is most likely remaining as is.
I think it would be very unexpected if one of the 5 stars at South Carolina left, or UCONN's 5 star left, or either South Carolina or UCONN got one of the 5 stars from another school in the summertime.
Are you sure your math is correct even if you're using that one source?
For example, in 2023 UCONN had two five star recruits -- not one as you've listed above?
2023 HoopGurlz Recruiting Rankings - espnW 100 - ESPN
Get the inside scoop on the top ranked high school girls' basketball players. In-depth player briefings, film and more on ESPNHS.com.
Are you sure your math is correct even if you're using that one source?
For example, in 2023 UCONN had two five star recruits -- not one as you've listed above?
2023 HoopGurlz Recruiting Rankings - espnW 100 - ESPN
Get the inside scoop on the top ranked high school girls' basketball players. In-depth player briefings, film and more on ESPNHS.com.
I overlooked one.
So UCONN and South Carolina are tied at 14 for 2020-2025. I edited the post above.
I think the "parents don't like Dawn Staley' sentiment offered by a distinct minority of middle age and older male message board posters is laughably wrong, stupid and pathetic.
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I don't know how accurate it is but as of right now
the 2026 #1 ranked player is listed at a 35% chance of coming to South Carolina closely followed by 30% to North Carolina. No other schools are listed on the profile that was available. I'm sure a lot of schools are on her list but apparently we are most favored as of right now.
Saniyah Hall
www.on3.com
the 2026 #1 ranked player is listed at a 35% chance of coming to South Carolina closely followed by 30% to North Carolina. No other schools are listed on the profile that was available. I'm sure a lot of schools are on her list but apparently we are most favored as of right now.
Saniyah Hall
2026 Industry Top Womens basketball Recruits
A list of the top 2026 Womens basketball recruits based off of a proprietary algorithm that compiles ratings and rankings from all four major recruiting media services
I was simply looking for accuracy and a reference point to support what you were asserting.
Not everything needs to be framed within context of gender, age, and skin color.
I believe UCONN signed the #1 player, Sarah Strong, in 2024.Gomey - You've listed 6 seasons above and no sources?
Here you go:
Comprehensive Analysis of 5-Star Recruit Signings in Women's College Basketball (2020-2024)
This analysis delves into the recruiting trends for women's college basketball over the past five years, focusing on the number of 5-star recruits signed by various schools from 2020 to 2024. The data is derived from recruiting rankings provided by ESPN, which are widely recognized for their comprehensive coverage of high school basketball prospects. The goal is to identify which schools have been most successful in attracting the highest-rated talents, defined as 5-star recruits, typically the top 10-20 players in each class based on their potential and performance.
Methodology
The approach involved reviewing the top 10 recruits from each recruiting class from 2020 to 2024, as listed in ESPN's HoopGurlz Recruiting Rankings and related articles. These top recruits are assumed to be 5-star players, given their high rankings, and their committed schools were noted. The total number of such recruits per school was then aggregated to determine the leaders over the five-year period. This method ensures consistency, though it may underrepresent schools with 5-star recruits ranked just outside the top 10, which is a limitation acknowledged in this analysis.
Year-by-Year Breakdown
Below is a detailed breakdown of the top recruits (assumed 5-star) for each year, along with their committed schools, based on the available data from ESPN and other sources.
2020 Recruiting Class
The 2020 class was notable, featuring players like Paige Bueckers and Caitlin Clark. The top 10 recruits and their schools are as follows:
Rank Name School 1 Paige Bueckers UConn 2 Angel Reese LSU 3 Cameron Brink Stanford 4 Caitlin Clark Iowa 5 Kamilla Cardoso South Carolina 6 Diamond Johnson Norfolk State 7 Hailey Van Lith LSU 8 Sydney Parrish Indiana 9 Priscilla Williams Oregon 10 Deja Kelly UNC 2021 Recruiting Class
- Totals for 2020: UConn (1), LSU (2), Stanford (1), Iowa (1), South Carolina (1), Norfolk State (1), Indiana (1), Oregon (1), UNC (1).
The 2021 class saw strong performances from schools like UConn and South Carolina, with the top 10 recruits as follows:
Rank Name School 1 Azzi Fudd UConn 2 Raven Johnson South Carolina 3 Saniya Rivers South Carolina 4 Sania Feagin South Carolina 5 Caroline Ducharme UConn 6 Aaliyah Moore Texas 7 Jersey Wolfenbarger Arkansas 8 Olivia Miles Notre Dame 9 Teonni Key UNC 10 Rori Harmon Texas 2022 Recruiting Class
- Totals for 2021: UConn (2), South Carolina (3), Texas (2), Arkansas (1), Notre Dame (1), UNC (1).
The 2022 class included talents like Lauren Betts and Kiki Rice, with the top 10 recruits as follows:
Rank Name School 1 Lauren Betts Stanford 2 Kiki Rice UCLA 3 Janiah Barker Texas A&M 4 Ayanna Patterson UConn 5 Isuneh Brady UConn 6 Timea Gardiner Oregon State 7 Chance Gray Oregon 8 Aaliyah Gayles USC 9 Maya Nnaji Arizona 10 Raegan Beers Oregon State 2023 Recruiting Class
- Totals for 2022: Stanford (1), UCLA (1), Texas A&M (1), UConn (2), Oregon State (2), Oregon (1), USC (1), Arizona (1).
The 2023 class saw LSU and Duke making significant signings, with the top recruits including:
(Note: Only listing up to rank 8 for brevity, assuming top 8 are 5-star for this year based on earlier data.)
Rank Name School 1 Judea Watkins USC 2 Mikaylah Williams LSU 3 Jadyn Donovan Duke 4 Ciera Toomey UNC 5 Hannah Hidalgo Notre Dame 6 Kamorea Arnold UConn 7 Aalyah Del Rosario LSU 8 Montaya Dew Arizona
2024 Recruiting Class
- Totals for 2023: USC (1), LSU (2), Duke (1), UNC (1), Notre Dame (1), UConn (1), Arizona (1).
The 2024 class featured strong classes for Texas and UConn, with the top recruits including:
(Note: Including up to rank 19 to capture all 5-star likely, based on earlier data.)
Rank Name School 2 Joyce Edwards South Carolina 4 Allie Ziebell UConn 6 Kennedy Smith USC 7 Justice Carlton Texas 8 Jordan Lee Texas 9 Toby Fournier Duke 11 Syla Swords Michigan 15 Olivia Olson Michigan 18 Morgan Cheli UConn 19 Arianna Roberson Duke
Aggregation and Rankings
- Totals for 2024: South Carolina (1), UConn (2), USC (1), Texas (2), Duke (2), Michigan (2).
To determine the schools with the most 5-star recruits, we sum the totals from each year, focusing on the top recruits listed, which are assumed to be 5-star players. The final counts are as follows:
School 2020 2021 2022 2023 2024 Total UConn 1 2 2 1 2 8 South Carolina 1 3 0 0 1 5 LSU 2 0 0 2 0 4 Texas 0 2 0 0 2 4 Duke 0 0 0 1 2 3 USC 0 0 1 1 1 3 UNC 1 1 0 1 0 3 Stanford 1 0 1 0 0 2 UCLA 0 0 1 0 1 2 Notre Dame 0 1 0 1 0 2 Oregon State 0 0 2 0 0 2 Arizona 0 0 1 1 0 2 Michigan 0 0 0 0 2 2 Oregon 1 0 1 0 0 2 Iowa 1 0 0 0 0 1 Norfolk State 1 0 0 0 0 1 Indiana 1 0 0 0 0 1 Texas A&M 0 0 1 0 0 1 Arkansas 0 1 0 0 0 1
They did and that was where the national championship was won. That was UConn's third generational talent on the same team.
The women’s program lost $5.59 average over the last 3 years. And that when being highly successful on the court. Does the university need to put more in their budget with this revenue sharing? Or less? What is sustainable and what is not?
DeeDave never fails to be everywhere and know everyone and have experienced everything. Credibility equals zero. Having said that I will tell you from coaching experience that it is about the jimmy and the joes, not the X's and O's. Give these coaches a roster of average or below average kids to really see who is the better coach. I stunk as a coach with a team of average kids, not without trying my best to coach, but won plenty with better kids.
You should ask season ticket holders this question. My coworker lost his sht when he was told what season tickets were for next year. I don't remember the exact numbers but they weren't just 2x or 3x the cost. It was something astronomical.
Though I’m not a fan of women’s basketball (and interest in men’s ball is waning) I am disturbed at the trends. How healthy is the sport? Only two sports make money. Now that the school budget will probably increase to pay players, some are now professionals and since pro sports are market driven, how long can it go on? The WNBA has a sugar daddy in the NBA that continues to fund it despite millions of dollars lost yearly. For how long? A recent game was moved to a bigger arena anticipating Clarke playing and bringing in a huge crowd. She was injured and couldn’t play and very few fans were buying tickets so they dropped prices to $3 a ticket to put people in the place so it’d look good with a crowd. I don’t know where we’re going in the world of sports and I don’t think anybody else does either. Adam Silver came on the Telly last night and within 30 seconds I couldn’t listen to his spill so I turned to Gunsmoke which was much more interesting even though I’d seen the episode 10x.
Hey, just ranting on and wondering here. 🥱 😵💫
Hey, just ranting on and wondering here. 🥱 😵💫
Thank you.
A big key part of being a good coach is landing really good players. The best players want to play for coaches that have achieved the highest successes in the sport. Staley easily meets that criteria.
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