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[GoCocksFight2021]

This guy....


Not a bad take below.

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Yeah, good luck with that, mfers. Ukraine isn't part of NATO, and the UK sending troops there won't change that. Trump will withdraw from NATO if they try to pull that bullshit. At this point, I'm fine with it. F'ing leaches that flood their countries with free money and retirement in their 50s while the US taxpayer protects their snotty asses.

 

[bucketdad]

... meanwhile the EU is stepping up it's role in supporting Ukraine. Trump wins again.

 

[GoCocksFight2021]

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Trump should have made this a bigger election issue. We would have won like Reagan if he did. Harris would gladly send our troops over in a heartbeat.

 

[GoCocksFight2021]

He's repeatedly said he is willing to cede territory. Earlier in the war, he ruled out ceding territory because he said- as most people understand, that Putin won't stop even if he ceded territory.

Zelenskyy has since- repeatedly said- he's willing to cede some territory for security guarantees that are meaningful and that the negotiation can't just be Ukraine giving up stuff without Russia also having to pay some price.

Like I said, Zelenskyy says a lot, but he WANT RUSSIA completely out. And he wants us to get in a direct war with Russia to get EVERYTHING back. Sorry. Not happening.

At the end of the bottom tweet: "War alone is too long, and we don’t have enough weapons to push them out entirely."

 

[GoCocksFight2021]

What a tool..

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Unreal. Remember, he even pissed off Sleepy Joe's unconscious ass with his ungratefulness, but Joe still gave him billions.

He tried that shit with Trump and he FAFOed. Trump and Vance chewed his ass and sent him home.

 

[GoCocksFight2021]

Yes. It’s obvious the discussions in Saudi Arabia weren’t about the best interests of Ukraine and instead were about doing what is best for Russia.

Pretty obvious why you wouldn’t want Zelensky there.

No, it's not "obvious". Both the leaders of the UK and France where fully supportive of the plan Trump had. Both met with Trump in the days before the Zelenskyy meeting and stated they were supportive. All Zelenskyy had to do was show up and sign and show solidarity.

But he doesn't want a deal. He wants EVERYTHING back, and for NATO and US troops to do it in a direct conflict with Russia.

 

[GoCocksFight2021]

Richard Grenell lowering the boom on Susan Rice. I love twitter.

 

[uscwatson21]

Yep. Like I said earlier, Zelenskyy's "guarantees" means he wants our troops and NATO troops on the grounds protecting Ukraine and fighting against the Russians.

Not a chance in hell that Americans will support that.

Why would you be afraid to put peacekeeping Troops on the ground if Putin is afraid to cross Trump?

Didn’t you spend months arguing Putin never would have invaded Ukraine if Trump was in charge?

Funny how your arguments never flow logically.

 

[Lurker123]

... meanwhile the EU is stepping up it's role in supporting Ukraine. Trump wins again.

Amazing how that works.

But honestly, I'll believe it when I see it.

 

[GoCocksFight2021]

Why would you be afraid to put peacekeeping Troops on the ground if Putin is afraid to cross Trump?

Didn’t you spend months arguing Putin never would have invaded Ukraine if Trump was in charge?

Funny how your arguments never flow logically.

Did he invade under Obama/Biden? Yes.
Did he invade under Trump/Pence? No.
Did he invade under Biden/Harris? Yes.

Is that logic simple enough for you?

And I don't want our troops anywhere near that place. Ukraine and Zelenskyy don't want peace. They are more likely to break a ceasefire than Russia at this point because they want EVERYTHING back, even Crimea. They would end up dragging our troops into direct conflict with Russia. Hell, no. Our troops on the board with Russia would be seen as a provocation, and rightfully so.

Still unbelievable that the idiot you voted for literally has taken us to the brink of nuclear war with Russia. But it's not all bad. At least Hunter got millions.

 

[Neanderthal]

Why would you be afraid to put peacekeeping Troops on the ground if Putin is afraid to cross Trump?

Are you willing to join up and go over there? Go over there and be a peacekeeper?

 

[uscwatson21]

Did he invade under Obama/Biden? Yes.
Did he invade under Trump/Pence? No.
Did he invade under Biden/Harris? Yes.

Is that logic simple enough for you?

And I don't want our troops anywhere near that place. Ukraine and Zelenskyy don't want peace. They are more likely to break a ceasefire than Russia at this point because they want EVERYTHING back, even Crimea. They would end up dragging our troops into direct conflict with Russia. Hell, no. Our troops on the board with Russia would be seen as a provocation, and rightfully so.

Still unbelievable that the idiot you voted for literally has taken us to the brink of nuclear war with Russia. But it's not all bad. At least Hunter got millions.

So Putin wouldn’t invade Ukraine under Trump but somehow we are at risk of WW3 the moment Trump gets into office but weren’t at risk of WW3 under Biden.

This tweet just sums up your logic perfectly.

 

[Ward Jr]

So Putin wouldn’t invade Ukraine under Trump but somehow we are at risk of WW3 the moment Trump gets into office but weren’t at risk of WW3 under Biden.

This tweet just sums up your logic perfectly.

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You've kindof missed the part where Obama and Biden set the entire thing up.

Then they also rejected peace deals which both sides wanted.

You don't have to rely on your propaganda outlets to inform you of this anymore.

Zelensky is now discussing this fact openly.

 

[GoCocksFight2021]

So Putin wouldn’t invade Ukraine under Trump but somehow we are at risk of WW3 the moment Trump gets into office but weren’t at risk of WW3 under Biden.

This tweet just sums up your logic perfectly.

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You are a moron. We have been at risk of WWIII for a while now. Nobody said we weren't. All thanks to the idiot you voted for. Putting US troop in Ukraine lined up against Russian troops would seriously escalate everything if something went sideways. And Ukraine would make sure something went sideways. They want us in a direct war with Russia and for us to get EVERYTHING back, including Crimea.

 

[Ward Jr]

 

[Ward Jr]

 

[uscwatson21]

Are you willing to join up and go over there? Go over there and be a peacekeeper?

Yes.

 

[Ward Jr]

Bill certainly talks about Putin much differently than his wife.

This is most what intelligent people say about Putin even to this day who have actually met him.

Putin invaded Ukraine because he said he would if we tried to shove them in NATO.

He kept his word.

 

[uscwatson21]

You've kindof missed the part where Obama and Biden set the entire thing up.

Then they also rejected peace deals which both sides wanted.

You don't have to rely on your propaganda outlets to inform you of this anymore.

Zelensky is now discussing this fact openly.

Seems like everyone with a brain is missing how we are suddenly at risk of WW3 when we weren’t at risk of WW3 under Biden.

 

[Ward Jr]

Seems like everyone with a brain is missing how we are suddenly at risk of WW3 when we weren’t at risk of WW3 under Biden.

Please stop trolling this subject Watson.

Find your soul and draw a line in the sand -- especially given your occupation.

 

[uscwatson21]

You are a moron. We have been at risk of WWIII for a while now. Nobody said we weren't. All thanks to the idiot you voted for. Putting US troop in Ukraine lined up against Russian troops would seriously escalate everything if something went sideways. And Ukraine would make sure something went sideways. They want us in a direct war with Russia and for us to get EVERYTHING back, including Crimea.

Weird how the war has gone on for what 3 years under Biden and all Ukraine needed was weapons. Now two months under Trump and suddenly it’s WW3.

make it make sense.

 

[Ward Jr]

 

[uscwatson21]

Please stop trolling this subject Watson.

Find your soul and draw a line in the sand -- especially given your occupation.

Every man who values freedom understands how defending a democratic nation against an authoritarian regime is the line of the sand you draw.

 

[Ward Jr]

Every man who values freedom understands how defending a democratic nation against an authoritarian regime is the line of the sand you draw.

Well you're going to be busy because there's lines to be drawn all over the world based on that premise.

You're in it for the troll and it's obvious.

 

[GoCocksFight2021]

Weird how the war has gone on for what 3 years under Biden and all Ukraine needed was weapons. Now two months under Trump and suddenly it’s WW3.

make it make sense.

Wrong. First it was just defensive weapons. Then they wanted air support. Then they wanted to be able to attack inside Russia. Now they want US and NATO security forces on the ground in Ukraine.

Anybody with a brain has said for a while that this is a slow march to another world war. The others didn't "suddenly" start. But step by step, one thing escalated into another, and the end result was disastrous.

Make a deal and settle it.

 

[GoCocksFight2021]

Every man who values freedom understands how defending a democratic nation against an authoritarian regime is the line of the sand you draw.

Really? So I guess NATO is really just any country that considers itself a Democracy? What happened to the "we aren't the world's police" line the libs and dems yelled constantly?

 

[uscwatson21]

Really? So I guess NATO is really just any country that considers itself a Democracy? What happened to the "we aren't the world's police" line the libs and dems yelled constantly?

Is your argument seriously, “yeah I’m wrong but what about other people who are wrong?”

 

[uscwatson21]

Well you're going to be busy because there's lines to be drawn all over the world based on that premise.

You're in it for the troll and it's obvious.

The only person that actually trolls on here is you with all your Russian propaganda.

 

[GoCocksFight2021]

Is your argument seriously, “yeah I’m wrong but what about other people who are wrong?”

No, it's YOU are wrong. As usual.

 

[uscwatson21]

Wrong. First it was just defensive weapons. Then they wanted air support. Then they wanted to be able to attack inside Russia. Now they want US and NATO security forces on the ground in Ukraine.

Anybody with a brain has said for a while that this is a slow march to another world war. The others didn't "suddenly" start. But step by step, one thing escalated into another, and the end result was disastrous.

Make a deal and settle it.

How can the Ukraine agree to settle if the US won’t agree to defend them if Russia invades them again?

It’s honestly sad how you’re so unembarrassed about being wrong.

 

[GoCocksFight2021]

Seems like everyone with a brain is missing how we are suddenly at risk of WW3 when we weren’t at risk of WW3 under Biden.

Suddenly?

Did your dumb ass not think, just a few months ago when Putin openly threatened the use of nukes, that "hmmm, we might be getting close to WW3?"

 

[Ward Jr]

If you still believe that Russia started this conflict in 2022, then you are either corrupt, ignorant, or brainwashed.

If you don’t know who Victoria Nuland is, or what she was doing in Ukraine in 2014, then you have no idea what’s going on.

The Deep State started this war. It was the Obama CIA/State Dept that funded Nazi militant groups to start a civil war in Ukraine, and initiated regime change to a CIA/State Dept puppet, Yatseniuk.

This was all revealed in the leaked phone call between State Dept diplomats and Deep State agents, Victoria Nuland and Geoffrey Pyatt (link in next post).

After the Maidan coup in February 2014, the US CIA/State Dept owned Ukraine via proxy, and the CIA began using Ukraine as a giant offshore playground for criminal racketeering and money laundering. Ukraine became one giant CIA base, directly on Russia’s border.

Then the US/NATO began building up Ukraine’s army for the sole purpose of one day fighting Russia. The US/NATO began supplying Ukraine with weapons, equipment, missiles, training, intelligence, etc.

Covert elements within the US government, along with their European partners in NATO, used espionage to overthrow and take control of the nation of Ukraine, then built a massive standing army on Russia’s border, then tried to bring Ukraine into NATO, and thus start WW3.

If you are still buying the official MSM narrative about this conflict, you should not be engaged in conversations.

Everything the MSM told you about Ukraine/Russia has been a lie, and in many cases, the inverse of the truth.

 

[GoCocksFight2021]

How can the Ukraine agree to settle if the US won’t agree to defend them if Russia invades them again?

It’s honestly sad how you’re so unembarrassed about being wrong.

Are they part of NATO?

And again, Ukraine has NO INTENTION of settling. They want to beat Russia and use our military to do it. Are you dumb enough to let them do that?

 

[uscwatson21]

Suddenly?

Did your dumb ass not think, just a few months ago when Putin openly threatened the use of nukes, that "hmmm, we might be getting close to WW3?"

No. Because Putin is at least a rational actor and knows Russia would be destroyed if they launched Nukes.

They can’t even beat the Ukraine so they’re not going to actually wage war with the US.

 

[uscwatson21]

Are they part of NATO?

And again, Ukraine has NO INTENTION of settling. They want to beat Russia and use our military to do it. Are you dumb enough to let them do that?

No Ukraine is not part of NATO. That’s the point.

Why would they agree to settle if no one is going to be there for them for part 2?

Quit being such a dumbass for one minute and think about that. Why would you ever agree to settle if it isn’t a long-term solution?

 

[GoCocksFight2021]

No. Because Putin is at least a rational actor and knows Russia would be destroyed if they launched Nukes.

They can’t even beat the Ukraine so they’re not going to actually wage war with the US.

One minute Putin is a crazy dictator that can't be trusted. Next minute he is a rational actor.

How convenient.

 

[uscwatson21]

One minute Putin is a crazy dictator that can't be trusted. Next minute he is a rational actor.

How convenient.

Oh look he changed the subject instead of admitting he was wrong with a “gotcha” that doesn’t work. You are a legitimate pigeon.

 

[GoCocksFight2021]

Oh look he changed the subject instead of admitting he was wrong with a “gotcha” that doesn’t work. You are a legitimate pigeon.

Oh wait. Y'all also claim he is near death too.

He seems to be whatever you want him to be, based on your agenda. Where have we seen that from Democrats before?

You might be dumber than a pigeon.

 

[GoCocksFight2021]

No Ukraine is not part of NATO. That’s the point.

Why would they agree to settle if no one is going to be there for them for part 2?

Quit being such a dumbass for one minute and think about that. Why would you ever agree to settle if it isn’t a long-term solution?

Yes, that is EXACTLY the POINT.

If the deal was good enough for the US, good enough for UK, good enough for France, then Ukraine needs to agree.

Or are France and UK now "Pawns of Putin" too?

 

[uscwatson21]

Yes, that is EXACTLY the POINT.

If the deal was good enough for the US, good enough for UK, good enough for France, then Ukraine needs to agree.

Or are France and UK now "Pawns of Putin" too?

Let’s see if you can honestly own your position for once.

You would agree to a deal that no one will willing to enforce?