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Thats why SS and Medicare is going bankrupt. Its not sustainable when only a few fund it and others steal from it. Either end it all together or fix it for those who pay into it. Only choice to be made

You clearly don't understand how SS and Medicare works. How would someone steal it from others who paid into it?
 
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The national debt is currently $36 TRILLION. Are you guys in favor of extending the Trump tax cuts, which will increase the national debt by $4 Trillion? And if Trump and company eliminate taxes on Social Security, it will balloon the debt even more. I know...I know....cut spending. You can point to cutting here or cutting there..... etc. The REALITY is that there is not enough discretionary spending to cut that would get support from Republicans in purple districts and states, not to mention Democrats. The reality is that the recent spending chaos this month reinforces that. So, do you cut and say to hell with the debt ceiling and take your chances that there will not be a financial catastrophe (remember the GOP controls the House, will control the Senate and White House and would thus suffer the political backlash)? The bond market would not like that kind of debt, no matter what, causing interest rates to spike, which in turn would cause a recession and, thus, cause a political catastrophe for the GOP. And remember it will take a boatload of money to deport millions of people. So, is it "damn the torpedoes; full speed ahead"? What do you do? What do you want done?

It's pretty wild that one party has convinced a bunch of poor whites that they're going to benefit from tax cuts almost exclusively to the richest 1% and moderately to the top 5% of households.

The same way they've convinced Americans, they should take back the migrant jobs of picking vegetables, roofing homes, and washing dishes in the restaurants but that at the same time those Americans shouldn't get the six figure jobs Elon wants to give to immigrants with expanded H1B visas.

Very impressive job of convincing poor whites to vote against their best interest.
 
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It's pretty wild that one party has convinced a bunch of poor whites that they're going to benefit from tax cuts almost exclusively to the richest 1% and moderately to the top 5% of households.

The same way they've convinced Americans, they should take back the migrant jobs of picking vegetables, roofing homes, and washing dishes in the restaurants but that at the same time those Americans shouldn't get the six figure jobs Elon wants to give to immigrants with expanded H1B visas.

Very impressive job of convincing poor whites to vote against their best interest.
Poor whites love our tax cuts. Enjoy yours as well my rich whatever friend. Lol
 
It's pretty wild that one party has convinced a bunch of poor whites that they're going to benefit from tax cuts almost exclusively to the richest 1% and moderately to the top 5% of households.

The same way they've convinced Americans, they should take back the migrant jobs of picking vegetables, roofing homes, and washing dishes in the restaurants but that at the same time those Americans shouldn't get the six figure jobs Elon wants to give to immigrants with expanded H1B visas.

Very impressive job of convincing poor whites to vote against their best interest.
The illegals picking fruits and vegetables need to be replaced by the criminals in our prisons. No more free rides. Work or starve. We’re not keeping up the dregs of society anymore.
 
It's pretty wild that one party has convinced a bunch of poor whites that they're going to benefit from tax cuts almost exclusively to the richest 1% and moderately to the top 5% of households.

The same way they've convinced Americans, they should take back the migrant jobs of picking vegetables, roofing homes, and washing dishes in the restaurants but that at the same time those Americans shouldn't get the six figure jobs Elon wants to give to immigrants with expanded H1B visas.

Very impressive job of convincing poor whites to vote against their best interest.

We never heard you say a peep about anything of this until you lost the election.

Please expand on just how well these individuals had it under Biden.

Please expand on how $150+ Billion out of pocket to have 12+mil illegals rush into the country for votes and to steal jobs was a good thing for the people you conveniently now pander.

And finally, please explain from a tax perspective how you've already concluded this is a forgone conclusion.

If you're going to continue to troll in 2025, please try find some substance to hang on your otherwise lame positions.
 
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It's pretty wild that one party has convinced a bunch of poor whites that they're going to benefit from tax cuts almost exclusively to the richest 1% and moderately to the top 5% of households.

The same way they've convinced Americans, they should take back the migrant jobs of picking vegetables, roofing homes, and washing dishes in the restaurants but that at the same time those Americans shouldn't get the six figure jobs Elon wants to give to immigrants with expanded H1B visas.

Very impressive job of convincing poor whites to vote against their best interest.

It’s gonna be fun watching the racist trash burn over the next decade. Funny part is they have no clue and never will. They’re immune to truth and fact.
 
It's pretty wild that one party has convinced a bunch of poor whites that they're going to benefit from tax cuts almost exclusively to the richest 1% and moderately to the top 5% of households.

The same way they've convinced Americans, they should take back the migrant jobs of picking vegetables, roofing homes, and washing dishes in the restaurants but that at the same time those Americans shouldn't get the six figure jobs Elon wants to give to immigrants with expanded H1B visas.

Very impressive job of convincing poor whites to vote against their best interest.

Poor whites figured out that all dems care about is the green energy scam to enrich their families and friends, illegal aliens, transvestites, and DEI hiring that gives jobs to people with skin color not matching theirs. Poor whites don't consider ANY of that in their best interest.
 
Poor whites figured out that all dems care about is the green energy scam to enrich their families and friends, illegal aliens, transvestites, and DEI hiring that gives jobs to people with skin color not matching theirs. Poor whites don't consider ANY of that in their best interest.
All he needs to know is. Poor whites have spoken. Sit down, shut up. It’s done
 
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Poor whites figured out that all dems care about is the green energy scam to enrich their families and friends, illegal aliens, transvestites, and DEI hiring that gives jobs to people with skin color not matching theirs. Poor whites don't consider ANY of that in their best interest.

I think it's obvious that you feel the pressure of the current economy and that's leading to your angst. It just saddens me that you don't realize, that you're going to be the person who suffers the most from Republican policies. You're going to hit retirement with less money than you realized and then not be able to afford your medical expenses because you don't realize what it really costs at that age and with reduced government benefits.

I suspect at that point you'll be too far committed to admit you were wrong and continue to blame the Democrats.
 
I think it's obvious that you feel the pressure of the current economy and that's leading to your angst. It just saddens me that you don't realize, that you're going to be the person who suffers the most from Republican policies. You're going to hit retirement with less money than you realized and then not be able to afford your medical expenses because you don't realize what it really costs at that age and with reduced government benefits.

I suspect at that point you'll be too far committed to admit you were wrong and continue to blame the Democrats.
You really need to focus on your mental health. Us poor white guys are doing great!! Praying for ya brother
 
The ilegal aliens and DEI hiring comments are especially daft when Elon is looking to outsource jobs to non-us citizens.
We need engineers and American education just doesn’t measure up so we’re going worldwide with recruitment. Deal with it. We’re going to eliminate DOE. Once gov is out American education might have a chance in 20-30 years. Maybe…….
 
We need engineers and American education just doesn’t measure up so we’re going worldwide with recruitment. Deal with it. We’re going to eliminate DOE. Once gov is out American education might have a chance in 20-30 years. Maybe…….

Curious where you graduated from college and what was your degree?
 
I think it's obvious that you feel the pressure of the current economy and that's leading to your angst. It just saddens me that you don't realize, that you're going to be the person who suffers the most from Republican policies. You're going to hit retirement with less money than you realized and then not be able to afford your medical expenses because you don't realize what it really costs at that age and with reduced government benefits.

I suspect at that point you'll be too far committed to admit you were wrong and continue to blame the Democrats.

Says the loser that can't even give $100 to NIL. lol
 
It's pretty wild that one party has convinced a bunch of poor whites that they're going to benefit from tax cuts almost exclusively to the richest 1% and moderately to the top 5% of households.

The same way they've convinced Americans, they should take back the migrant jobs of picking vegetables, roofing homes, and washing dishes in the restaurants but that at the same time those Americans shouldn't get the six figure jobs Elon wants to give to immigrants with expanded H1B visas.

Very impressive job of convincing poor whites to vote against their best interest.
What about the blacks? They can do that also?
 
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Poor whites and black FINALLY figured out that the Dems were liars when they saw all the illegals pouring into their neighborhoods being showered with tons of free money for food and housing. But when DeSantis shipped illegals to Martha's Vineyard, they bussed their illegal asses out of there as fast as they could.

Dems have been exposed.
 
And the shadiest, most disgusting thing the Dems did was the outrageous lies of the "inflation reduction act" that didn't NOTHING to fix inflation but handed out hundreds of billions to green energy scammers. They knew most people wouldn't actually read the bill and see it had nothing to do with fixing inflation and that the colluding liars in the media wouldn't call them out on it, just say that Dems were passing a bill to fix inflation.

Biden even ADMITTED to this lie. Bragged about it. Anybody that believes a Democrat is a fool.

 
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Poor whites and black FINALLY figured out that the Dems were liars when they saw all the illegals pouring into their neighborhoods being showered with tons of free money for food and housing. But when DeSantis shipped illegals to Martha's Vineyard, they bussed their illegal asses out of there as fast as they could.

Dems have been exposed.

It's amazing you've let your anger about what you don't have cloud your judgment. That's exactly what people like Elon want, you to blame the illegals for your situation instead of the billionaires like himself.
 
It's amazing you've let your anger about what you don't have cloud your judgment. That's exactly what people like Elon want, you to blame the illegals for your situation instead of the billionaires like himself.

Elon doesn't want any type of "blame" from me. He wants me to buy another $140k car from him like I did 2 years ago. My "situation" is just fine. lol
 
Someone that can afford a $140k car isn't stressing about illegal immigrants.

People who can afford a $140k car can think past their nose and realize the damage it does to our country. Maybe one day you will realize it isn't all about just you.

The Democratic party is for a lazy and the stupid. The party of handouts. With other people's money.
 
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People who can afford a $140k car can think past their nose and realize the damage it does to our country. Maybe one day you will realize it isn't all about just you.

The Democratic party is for a lazy and the stupid. The party of handouts. With other people's money.

You honestly don't feel bad about lying about buying a $140k car?
 
Anybody who works hard and pays their own way should HATE illegal immigration.

The end game with illegals is to make them legal, and you will NEVER have another Republican in the White House. Dems will tax the hard working and hand money out for votes from the stupid, the lazy, and the illegal. Meanwhile, they will enrich their families and avoid the same taxes, just like Joe did with Hunter. And never pay any consequences.
 
It's amazing you've let your anger about what you don't have cloud your judgment. That's exactly what people like Elon want, you to blame the illegals for your situation instead of the billionaires like himself.
Perfect example of a delusional brain dead indoctrinated victim. We poor white guys are sick and tired of watching government use illegals, pandemics, foreign wars etc, etc, etc to steal, launder and embezzle all of our tax dollars for themselves. Denial is a safety mechanism you use and probably will till death. It’s far to painful to admit you’ve been groomed and indoctrinated to fully believe anything your told and your entire life has been a lie. I’ll continue praying for you with high hopes that you can forgive yourself and realize you are just another victim. It’s not your fault you were corrupted by the system. Open your eyes and dig for the truth, you can break the chains. Happy New year!
 
Someone that can afford a $140k car isn't stressing about illegal immigrants.
Bullshit. Just got back from the dmv and illegals have taken over that institution. Took an extra hour or so waiting for translators and clearing out many that shouldn’t even be there. They’ve destroyed all government agencies, local and federal with their illegal presence.
 
Hilarious that you think that is even a lot of money. There are pickup trucks that cost more than that now. Typical small thinking lib.

My wife and I combined end up with a household income in the 94th percentile so just under the threshold who really benefits from the trump tax cuts. A $140k vehicle is outside of our budget.

Could we afford it? Maybe. Would it be fiscally responsible? Absolutely not.

Shocker the liberal in here is the one fiscally responsible.
 
My wife and I combined end up with a household income in the 94th percentile so just under the threshold who really benefits from the trump tax cuts. A $140k vehicle is outside of our budget.

Could we afford it? Maybe. Would it be fiscally responsible? Absolutely not.

Shocker the liberal in here is the one fiscally responsible.
Household income is meaningless. Net worth is all that matters. I’ve known plenty of idiots that beat their chest bragging about income just to watch em fall to bankruptcy time after time. Truly wealthy people never speak of it. Pretenders can’t stop running their mouth about it.
 
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Household income is meaningless. Net worth is all that matters. I’ve known plenty of idiots that beat their chest bragging about income just to watch em fall to bankruptcy time after time. Truly wealthy people never speak of it. Pretenders can’t stop running their mouth about it.

You think the other poster is just independently, generationally wealthy and doesn’t work?

Odds of that are slim.
 
You clearly don't understand how SS and Medicare works. How would someone steal it from others who paid into it?
Much of SS and Medicare is funded by IOUs from borrowing done decades ago. The borrowed funds have never been repaid (just like our national debt). When they count how much is in the SS fund they count the IOUs from previous years as a current cash balance. This is why Al Gore came up with the phrase “Lockbox” when running against George Bush. He coined the phrase so that borrowing using SS funds could not be done in the future.
 
You think the other poster is just independently, generationally wealthy and doesn’t work?

Odds of that are slim.

lol. So I'm either an angry poor white person that is mad at immigrants because of what I don't have or I'm a "independently, generationally wealthy and doesn’t work".

You really are a moron.
 
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You think the other poster is just independently, generationally wealthy and doesn’t work?

Odds of that are slim.

Anyone can generate wealth. You’re telling on yourself with that liberal thinking. Here’s today’s lesson for you. Just because your not born into wealth doesn’t mean you can’t create your own. Welfare isn’t the answer. All old money families had a trailblazer thinking outside the box that started the family fortune even though it’s usually gone in 3 generations. Lazy entitlement creeps in and destroys it. Capitalism ensures everyone has the opportunity to be as successful as you want. Government tries to lure you down the lazy welfare path. Your choice.
 
lol. So I'm either an angry poor white person that is mad at immigrants because of what I don't have or I'm a "independently, generationally wealthy and doesn’t work".

You really are a moron.

That’s what “learned college folks” call a “false dichotomy”.

I clearly think you have a job and feel stressed by the economy. The other guy thinks you’re potentially a Murdaugh.
 
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