Ward, I'm not going to get into a back and forth with anyone on past history. Right now, I'm pissed off with myself for missing out on an entry into a particular stock while waiting on a pull back. This I will say and say no more about it: the PERCEPTION is that Trump bungled it. You and anyone else can pooh pooh the data if you prefer. BUT, the Real Clear Politics site, which is a moderate conservative-leaning website, during Trump's first term had it that the U.S. had 20% of the world's covid -related deaths. The U.S. has only 4% of the world's population. That was their data. Covid was why he lost the election in 2020. You and others can have the last word on this. Have at it. I got to go.