What about high school football? Do they play this year ?

[jeff2001]

I hope so

 

[Horseshoe 04]

YEP

 

[Gamecockben1979]

I don’t see it. Spring by earliest. Here’s the thing we’re talking about teachers rotating around the classes, rotating days kids come to school and limiting class size.

How do we get from that right now to tackling each other in a period of 3 months? Also as mentioned on another thread, these kids will need time to condition and practice as well.

June 1 will be key. If the schsl delays practices that is signaling to football you are in danger of at least a delay. Pay attention to that date.

Of course I see on twitter Dutch Fork is still going at it.

 

[USCBatgirl21]

I don’t see it. Spring by earliest. Here’s the thing we’re talking about teachers rotating around the classes, rotating days kids come to school and limiting class size.

How do we get from that right now to tackling each other in a period of 3 months? Also as mentioned on another thread, these kids will need time to condition and practice as well.

June 1 will be key. If the schsl delays practices that is signaling to football you are in danger of at least a delay. Pay attention to that date.

Of course I see on twitter Dutch Fork is still going at it.

Of course they have.

If anyone has been listening in on the SCHSL conference calls this Spring, as I have, most of the calls have sounded as if the SCHSL is looking at June 1 to start getting things back to normal. They are reviewing all possible options for conditioning, practice, etc to start back up over the summer, even if it means having limits on the number of guys who can condition together at one time. Handling tackling drills and such are the tricky ones, along with actual games, obviously. Adjustments will be made, but the SCHSL has continued the train of thought that there will be football in the Fall, along with other Fall sports.

 

[Gamecockben1979]

Of course they have.

If anyone has been listening in on the SCHSL conference calls this Spring, as I have, most of the calls have sounded as if the SCHSL is looking at June 1 to start getting things back to normal. They are reviewing all possible options for conditioning, practice, etc to start back up over the summer, even if it means having limits on the number of guys who can condition together at one time. Handling tackling drills and such are the tricky ones, along with actual games, obviously. Adjustments will be made, but the SCHSL has continued the train of thought that there will be football in the Fall, along with other Fall sports.

I am sure they are trying. Plus the SCHSL is playing politics. There was zero chance sports we’re getting played once school let out, yet they waited until the Governor closed schools for the year to vote on it.

I think you can get there with golf and tennis and cross country training but let’s be honest how do you social distance in football? Volleyball?

I am sure some conditioning can be done. You could ask players to bring their own ball to use for skill development but actually playing the sport would be difficult.

Plus without a liability shield which school wants to run the risk of being sued when star athlete gets it, brings it home and it kills his legal guardian?

 

[USCBatgirl21]

I am sure they are trying. Plus the SCHSL is playing politics. There was zero chance sports we’re getting played once school let out, yet they waited until the Governor closed schools for the year to vote on it.

I think you can get there with golf and tennis and cross country training but let’s be honest how do you social distance in football? Volleyball?

I am sure some conditioning can be done. You could ask players to bring their own ball to use for skill development but actually playing the sport would be difficult.

Plus without a liability shield which school wants to run the risk of being sued when star athlete gets it, brings it home and it kills his legal guardian?

Let's be honest, the majority of us have probably already been exposed to it in one way or another, unless we haven't left our houses for anything in the last month, and avoided all human contact, even those we live with - no grocery trips, no picking up takeout because you're tired of cooking, etc. How would they really be able to prove that the athlete got it from the game and not one of the other times aforementioned, or even from just sitting in class. But that's an argument for when those lawsuits, many probably frivolous, begin.

As for the cancellation, yes, they played the politics. Which is what I fully expected them to do. We all knew it was coming, but it didn't make it any easier dealing with my devastated golfer that his season was really cancelled. However, I see HS football as I see college football. It will happen, but I think the start will be delayed this Fall. I don't think alternating days of in-school and online instruction will affect it at all. As long as there are bodies in the schools, they will have sports.

We have to start getting on with our lives, for our physical, mental and financial well beings.

 

[Gamecockben1979]

Let's be honest, the majority of us have probably already been exposed to it in one way or another, unless we haven't left our houses for anything in the last month, and avoided all human contact, even those we live with - no grocery trips, no picking up takeout because you're tired of cooking, etc. How would they really be able to prove that the athlete got it from the game and not one of the other times aforementioned, or even from just sitting in class. But that's an argument for when those lawsuits, many probably frivolous, begin.

As for the cancellation, yes, they played the politics. Which is what I fully expected them to do. We all knew it was coming, but it didn't make it any easier dealing with my devastated golfer that his season was really cancelled. However, I see HS football as I see college football. It will happen, but I think the start will be delayed this Fall. I don't think alternating days of in-school and online instruction will affect it at all. As long as there are bodies in the schools, they will have sports.

We have to start getting on with our lives, for our physical, mental and financial well beings.

I respect your opinion and you have some valid points. I think if school comes back to “normal” there are sports. If not then I find it hard to pitch as safe. I’ve never seen a district roll the dice with safety.

I do feel for your son and all the spring sport athletes across this country that lost their season. I played a spring sport in high school and it would’ve been tough to miss out on one. I coach so I certainly understand the significance and want sports to return.

Our country has to get beyond wearing a mask in public for that to happen. I just can’t see that happening in 2020.

 

[USCBatgirl21]

@Gamecockben1979 I mentioned in another thread that I could see a reduced HS schedule of just Region games this Fall, in line with the possibility of a reduced college schedule of just conference games.

 

[Gamecockben1979]

@Gamecockben1979 I mentioned in another thread that I could see a reduced HS schedule of just Region games this Fall ,in line with the possibility of a reduced college schedule of just conference games.

Maybe. I think most athletic directors would rather see a full slate of games in the spring than a reduced number. Just like college, games equal revenue and that revenue is even more important at the high school level, especially at the poorer schools.

 

[USCBatgirl21]

I respect your opinion and you have some valid points. I think if school comes back to “normal” there are sports. If not then I find it hard to pitch as safe. I’ve never seen a district roll the dice with safety.

I do feel for your son and all the spring sport athletes across this country that lost their season. I played a spring sport in high school and it would’ve been tough to miss out on one. I coach so I certainly understand the significance and want sports to return.

Our country has to get beyond wearing a mask in public for that to happen. I just can’t see that happening in 2020.

I appreciate it. I was really tough for us because their starting 5 consisted of 4 Seniors, and then Smalls (Freshman). They had a really good shot at State this year, which was to be at Forest Lake. He's dropped his handicap down to 4.9, down 5 from last Spring.

 

[Gamecockben1979]

@USCBatgirl21 another issue could be if football got moved to spring the amount of athletes that are dual sport having to choose. This would be sad and I couldn’t imagine the amount of recruiting within the school amongst fellow coaches.

 

[USCBatgirl21]

Maybe. I think most athletic directors would rather see a full slate of games in the spring than a reduced number. Just like college, games equal revenue and that revenue is even more important at the high school level, especially at the poorer schools.

I think ADs just want to see sports back regardless. However, I don't think it can be done in the Spring, especially when you consider the vast number of 2 sport athletes we have at the HS level. So we're going to tell a kid that plays football and baseball that they have to choose what to play? That would add an entire new level of anxiety on these kids that I think would be unnecessary.

 

[Gamecockben1979]

I appreciate it. I was really tough for us because their starting 5 consisted of 4 Seniors, and then Smalls (Freshman). They had a really good shot at State this year, which was to be at Forest Lake. He's dropped his handicap down to 4.9, down 5 from last Spring.

That is heart breaking. Hopefully those guys can golf together for the remainder of their lives. The older I get the more I value the relationships I have from sports more than the wins.

I really wish we could have let the non contact sports like golf carry on. I get why they were shut down but golf could have happened safely.

 

[USCBatgirl21]

@USCBatgirl21 another issue could be if football got moved to spring the amount of athletes that are dual sport having to choose. This would be sad and I couldn’t imagine the amount of recruiting within the school amongst fellow coaches.

I just said the same thing!

 

[Gamecockben1979]

I think ADs just want to see sports back regardless. However, I don't think it can be done in the Spring, especially when you consider the vast number of 2 sport athletes we have at the HS level. So we're going to tell a kid that plays football and baseball that they have to choose what to play? That would add an entire new level of anxiety on these kids that I think would be unnecessary.

There would definitely be issues with facilities (soccer, football, lacrosse, etc...), athletes getting begged to play sports, weather cancellations, etc....

I hope I’m wrong and for our country’s sake we have football and other sports in the fall. The encouraging sign is seeing European soccer start to make plans to open. If it goes well we may do the same.

I went back yesterday to finalize for the year. We had to wear gloves and a mask and there was no socializing. Shut down and get out. Most of our check out stuff was bypassed. Only a few departments could go in each day.

 

[DeepfriedCock]

I highly doubt Football will be played. I can't imagine they'll be letting thousands of people get together on Friday Nights. With no money to be made, I don't see the risk of getting a large number of kids together.

 

[vacock#]

A good discussion here by people in the know, apparently.

My comment is that I always thought that school administrators were very shy about doing something that may result in litigation. Will the insurance companies cover any (Covered by errors and omissions insurance?) litigation against the administrators? Cover hospitalization, Treatment, and medicines? CYA first and let someone else stick their neck out before agreeing to any risky action. Please correct my assumptions.

 

[Gamecockben1979]

For those interested I just got word via text from an in state college basketball coach that their team camp in June is cancelled. This is a pretty strong indication to me that sports (at least basketball) will not be played through June and it will be hard for the SCHSL to go against the grain on this action.

This same coach is trying to have a skills camp in August so there is hope for August still but assuming kids are not on campus in June, it’s hard for me to imagine a kickoff in August for high schools.