I thought they made rules a couple of years ago penalizing teams for players not graduating. Just wondering. I thought we even lost one for a year under Odom.
Why doesn't Kensucky lose scholarships in basketball?
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I guess I don't get it either. But then we are dealing with the
No Credibility At All, the group that collectively turns its backs on the academic shadiness at UnCarolina that remains unchallenged.
GOCOCKS! BEATFLA!
No Credibility At All, the group that collectively turns its backs on the academic shadiness at UnCarolina that remains unchallenged.
GOCOCKS! BEATFLA!
You are right! The NCAA has always been a joke of an organization, but
their lack of doing anything at UNC takes the cake.
their lack of doing anything at UNC takes the cake.
Talk to the NBA - as long as they allow the rules to be as they are no program will be penalized with regards to graduation of players that the NBA rule allows to leave after one season.
Would love to see the NBA ( which they will not do) adopt MLB's rule. That would seriously end all of the discussion regarding kids coming into a college program and then leaving after one or even two years.
I don't know about that. All the chatter I've been hearing is that they'll adopt something similar when the current CBA with the players expires (that's where the rule is specified, apparently). They're starting to find out what baseball did a long time ago: a college player is a better investment than a high schooler by a laughably huge margin (Billy Beane reportedly fist-pumps every time another team drafts one). Nineteen year old kids just plain aren't ready to play professional ball.
This post was edited on 4/10 8:30 PM by 4thgengamecock
Teams are not penalized for students leaving for a professional career, so long as they are in good academic standing when they leave.
That's my point crouterhead, I thought a lot of these players were skipping class the last semester.
The loophole is that they can take online classes the second semester before they leave for the NBA to stay in good standing. Most don't actually go to class the second semester, the coaches just make sure they get their online classes taken care of so that it doesn't affect the program.
If they actually required a certain graduation rate as originally stated, it would change the way Kentucky and a few others would have to recruit. Would certainly spread out the elite to talent to more teams, and therefore that will never happen. The NCAA likes its elite programs...see the inaction on UNC scandal.
If they actually required a certain graduation rate as originally stated, it would change the way Kentucky and a few others would have to recruit. Would certainly spread out the elite to talent to more teams, and therefore that will never happen. The NCAA likes its elite programs...see the inaction on UNC scandal.
NCAA could allow a max 4 scholarships a year and the problem would be solved. You keep them through jr. year and you have 12 on scholarship, 16 if they graduate. If they leave after 1 then you would have 4 freshmen and a bunch of walk ons.
You should probably read up on how the APR works. Your post is full of assumptions. You assume KY's players are taking online courses when you don't know at all. You assume there is no grad rate requirement, which there is. Ask UCONN - they couldn't defend their title in 2012 because of graduation requirements. As someone earlier posted, if you LEAVE IN GOOD ACADEMIC STANDING, you don't receive the full allotment of points that are measured, but you secure ENOUGH of the points whereby your team isn't penalized. So if all 7 of KY's players stay in school this semester and remain in good academic standing by the end of the semester, then KY doesn't get the max APR score but a good enough score to remain penalty free.
Teams that fail to achieve an APR score of 925 - equivalent to a 50% graduation rate - may be penalized. A perfect score is 1000. The scores are calculated as follows:
Each student-athlete receiving athletically related financial aid earns one retention point for staying in school and one eligibility point for being academically eligible. A team's total points are divided by the points possible and then multiplied by one thousand to equal the team's Academic Progress Rate score.
Example: A Division I Football Bowl Subdivision team awards the full complement of 85 grants-in-aid. If 80 student-athletes remain in school and academically eligible, three remain in school but are academically ineligible and two drop out academically ineligible, the team earns 163 of 170 possible points for that term. Divide 163 by 170 and multiply by 1,000 to determine that the team's Academic Progress Rate for that term is 959.[/QUOTE]
Teams that fail to achieve an APR score of 925 - equivalent to a 50% graduation rate - may be penalized. A perfect score is 1000. The scores are calculated as follows:
Each student-athlete receiving athletically related financial aid earns one retention point for staying in school and one eligibility point for being academically eligible. A team's total points are divided by the points possible and then multiplied by one thousand to equal the team's Academic Progress Rate score.
Example: A Division I Football Bowl Subdivision team awards the full complement of 85 grants-in-aid. If 80 student-athletes remain in school and academically eligible, three remain in school but are academically ineligible and two drop out academically ineligible, the team earns 163 of 170 possible points for that term. Divide 163 by 170 and multiply by 1,000 to determine that the team's Academic Progress Rate for that term is 959.[/QUOTE]
I wouldn't care either if we had Kensucky's talent. I wasn't knocking them. I just thought there were rules in place to prevent a school from never graduating anyone. So, the loophole, is they can just take online classes? UCONN is what came to mind when I started thinking about this. What I gather from what's been posted is that Kensucky is keeping there players in good academic standing until they leave.
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