Or maybe we enjoy something much different from the sports than you do. It's entirely possible that I enjoy different aspects of the game. I don't like pro basketball for the same reason I don't like pro football. I understand why people like it, it just never appealed to me. I liked pro football when I was a teenager, then I grew up and my tastes refined. You think that means there's something wrong with me in my life? Sure thing, man. Let's first assume there is something wrong with the way I enjoy sports (there isn't, it's my personal enjoyment), and then extrapolate that out to say there must be something wrong with my life in general.
To be fair, they were just honoring the Navy by talking like sailors.
You wrote a lot and all I get out of it is just you enjoy watching people fail and that is okay. Just say so. These type of discussions always amuse me because people never can really explain why they prefer the amateur version over the professional version or vice versa. They just do. It is almost like they are hiding something and its cute watching people twist in circles explaining something but really not giving you anything. It's like listening to a politician talk.
I can appreciate that. You gave a real reason why you prefer the amateur game. Most people don't do that. They go around in circles and their reasoning makes you wonder what the real reason is. Maybe you are just better at explaining. It is sort of like me with College Basketball. I don't like how the amateur game is officiated. It's like they give participation awards for trying. Anytime you run to a spot and fall down, it's a charge when it was obvious that you were still moving. Nonetheless, I still watch the college version of the sport. I just complain about it when I am watching. Officiating is not a big enough motivator to totally turn off on a sport.
Wouldn't the reason for that be that there are less games than the professional version for obvious reasons? The professional version tests your will far greater because you have to constantly get up for games and sometimes it's not going to be there on the 3rd game in 4 nights.
All eras have their issues. There were a lot of unskilled brutes in 90s basketball that were doing a lot of fouling unchecked. People like to glorify the Knicks/Bulls rivalry. However, the only guy that could actually play basketball on the Knicks was Patrick Ewing and John Starks a little bit. Everone else was a brute that hustled and played hard. Hand checking is a foul. Elbowing a guy just for crossing through the lane is a foul. What I have found is that the better teams always dictate how the game is played. In the 80's and part of the 90's, you had big front lines on the good teams and physical play is what went back then. Now, a big physical team gets their brains beat in buy skilled teams that shoot 3 pointers. After Steph Curry and his group retires, you will probably see something different depending on who the best guys are.
I like the hockey. Fast action. I do not like the NBA. Every time scoring goes down, they change the rules to help scorers. Now, since you rarely can get a charge called, defenders just get out of the way so the star can dunk it. That’s what ESPN wants to show. Offensively, dunks and 3 pointers are the rule. You’ll rarely see an off-ball screen leading to a good cut, pass and layup. That don’t make ESPN. Defensively, the blocked shot is what the league wants and no other defense is exciting. The game is not catered toward a basketball purist but instead to the fan looking for entertainment. College is more team play and fundamentals, the NBA is geared toward entertainment. And now they are leaning toward adding politics. That never ends up well for the game. Politics is so messed up it doesn’t matter to that side of the argument. But it all trickles down and eventually damages the entire game.
Well, in Diggs's defense, he was speaking to Pats fans in a language they understand. Noone here has been to Boston?
I would disagree on that. One of the reasons Golden State wins in the NBA is due to their defense. People get wrapped into Steph Curry and the 3 pointers, but Klay Thompson and Draymond Green really defend. The reason the Lakers are losing right now, and they are my team, is that they went for the shiny offensive stars and don't defend. The Suns and the Warriors defend and are beating teams like the Lakers up right now.
For me it has a lot more to do with the pageantry of the college game versus the pro game. I also grew up with a dad who didn’t care much for pro ball, but our whole day Saturday was watching college ball. It’s just a preference.
I see we have different philosophies on the game because the reason I prefer the professional game is that they call charging too much in the college game. All you have to do is be somewhat in the semblance of legal guarding position and fall down to get a charge in college. In the pros, you must be in legal guarding position and take it in the chest. None of that falling down before the guy gets there. You need to watch some of the good teams in the NBA. All Steph Curry does is set off-ball screens and run around off of them. That is why he is open so often. Now, you are right that lay-ups and 3 pointers are the rule, but that started in college. Rick Pitino gets mad at you for taking long twos and he has been doing that to his college guys since the mid-90s. Blame that on the analytic revolution that says the 3 pointers and lay-ups are the best shots to take. A lot of college teams and even high school teams live by that now.
Is that why you ignored my post? Because I clearly explained why I liked amateur sports better.
I really can't argue the nba with you because I rarely watch it, but the charging calls in college are plentiful whether you get the call or not, I'm not sure multimillionaires are willing to risk injury for a change of possession and a foul, it's just not worth the risk!
Yes. It was a clear explanation that is understandable. All this stuff about fundamentals I am skeptical about. Since when has a South Carolina football or basketball team been fundamentally sounds on both ends or both sides of the ball? Yet I am sure all of us on here watch them. So, I see that as making up excuses based on talking points that have been thrown around.
not a damn thing wrong with preferring amateur sports but sadly college ball is getting away from that. something about knowing they are paid millions to play a game, but to each their own, you should remember that
