Not sure where I went wrong.
The oldest is a junior at Carolina though.
Youngest daughter to the taters...
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Not sure where I went wrong.
The oldest is a junior at Carolina though.
Told my kids they can go wherever they want, I might not pay for everywhere they wanna go though.
As a parent of a kid who just started college and another in high school, Clemson has done a better job of marketing themselves of late. I think the success in football really helps.
What if she meets and falls in love with a tater....then has little tater grandchildren...oh the humanity!
Not sure where I went wrong.
The oldest is a junior at Carolina though.
Sorry she couldn't get into college...lol (joking)
If she falls in love with a 5 star and he goes on to the NFL it will probably work out just fine.
My daughter is in her final semester at AU(Anderson University). Next fall, she starts her masters program at tater tech. She’s all Gamecock though. Only thing that kept her from going to USC is that she didn’t want to be away from home 😀
Not sure where I went wrong.
The oldest is a junior at Carolina though.
You can always be cut out of a will.
I know three young men now from MP that went to Moo U due to majors. All THREE remain USC FANS, even though they have CU degrees. My oldest son is a USC Grad, and my youngest and only daughter graduated in 2020 from USC. Middle son went to C of C, but is huge Gamecock fan. I am blessed lol
Lifelong Gamecock fan. I wanted to go to USC. Navy had different plans. But they paid my undergrad and graduate degrees, so no loans to pay back and a good pension after 26 years, and a career field that has been pretty nice post service. So, I understand why others must make choices. Still a lifetime Gamecock fan and a season ticket holder and donor for athletics and alumni (well, I guess technically that is the wife’s donation since I am not an alumni).
Good question. I do think it's marketing to some degree, but also effort by Clemson to meet metrics that lower their admission rate and boost their ranking, and word of mouth. I do think USC offers every bit as good of an education, particularly in some majors (IMO the business school really is outstanding), while Clemson has some really strong majors as well. The Honors College at USC is second to none. But the perception around here (Fort Mill, Rock Hill) is that Clemson is much tougher to get into. Our high school counselors said verbatim at the senior meeting "only the top 1 or 2% of you will get into Clemson," which wasn't true at all. Friends of ours had kids with low average grades and SAT scores and got in. But eventually perception becomes reality.
Alabama, Mississippi, UGA, Tennessee, and LSU (along with South Carolina and Clemson) are all fine schools, but I think anybody that says they chose those schools mostly because of some hair-splitting academic rankings are either lying, were sold a bill of goods, or those were simply the best schools that accepted them. Outside of the elite schools, I think most kids pick a college based on a combination of tangibles and intangibles that generally come down to where they feel the "best fit" lies. As much as I hate Clemson, it's easy to see why a kid might feel comfortable going there after spending some time walking around its campus. The fact that their football team is now a perennial contender would only add to their enthusiasm for the Clemson community.
As for UNC and UVA achieving near-elite status, I don't know why that should be an aspiration for SC's flagship university from a public policy standpoint. If the people of NC and VA are fine with those schools being unattainable for the median college-bound residents of those states, that's up to them, but at least kids in those states have _many_ state university options. I think it's appropriate that the typical college-bound SC resident sees Carolina as an attainable option.
I had a blast at USC in the late 1970's/early 80's/.My two kids that are USC alumni had a blast as well. USC has some really good majors, just as Clemson does. Depends on what you want to do as a career. CU seems harder to get into because it is, they literally accept fewer Freshman each year. I think USC accepted a Freshman class around 5,000 in 2020.
All depends on which UMass your talking about.
UMass Amherst is rate # 66 in National Universities
Agree. My daughter is a jr. at USC Honors and it has been a great experience. The quality of students appears impressive to me and I believe she has gotten a great education. While I’m sure there is room for improvement there are a number of highly ranked programs
As the state university the admissions range is wider, more rounded. I talked with a lot of friends that went to Clemson and they said the admission rankings were inflated by out of state engineering students. I don’t know much about the IB but the Public health and nursing schools are very good. USC also offers many more graduate programs.
What matters is that they go where the curriculum meets their needs. My son grew up Tater as did my daughter. My son had a full academic ride to USC which fitted his needs academically better then Clemson. He decided that he wanted to be “all in” and became a Gamecock. My daughter got turned around too. She just got her degree in December.
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USC honors has been #1 since 2012: https://sc.edu/uofsc/posts/2020/11/11_schc_best.php “Inside Honors is the only source for an evidence-based ranking of honors colleges. It bases the comprehensive valuation on 13 key metrics, including curriculum requirements, number of honors classes offered, average class size, graduation rate and ratio of staff to students.”
Out of high school she was accepted to the USC Business school. But didn’t want to attend a “large school” like her sister.
She never even applied to Clemson. Visited Lander and said this is it.
Then at Christmas she said there was nothing to do at Lander.
Fast forward to now and she has been accepted to Clemson. I hate to tell her but Clemson is a smaller town than Greenwood. But her roommates are also going so there’s that.
She never even applied to Clemson. Visited Lander and said this is it.
Then at Christmas she said there was nothing to do at Lander.
Fast forward to now and she has been accepted to Clemson. I hate to tell her but Clemson is a smaller town than Greenwood. But her roommates are also going so there’s that.
People can say what they want, but athletics play a MASSIVE role in college choices, especially if you are talking about colleges and universities that are pretty similar in academic success. I saw a really interesting stat the other day. In 2005, Clemson reported they had 12.4K applications. This year they just reported they had 43K. Not all of it, but a lot of that is success in football. Creates a national brand and interest. Free national marketing. People want to go to a winning place because it is happy and fun. Clemson has also done a great job of mirroring their academic/student life with the success of their football program. It almost has that "high school connection" feel to it.
This is unquestionably true. I was on campus there a couple summers ago. The growth that had taken place in the few years since I had last been there was astounding.
Thank you for correcting this. The Honors College remains #1 for public institutions
Not sure where your application data comes from. Last year, CU had 29,070 applications and South Carolina had 30,778. Clempson's average SAT and ACT scores are slightly better than USC. Clempson enrolled 3,932 freshman and USC enrolled 5,848. Carolina is a bigger university with the ability to enroll more students thus their averages are slightly lower.
Now, this years higher ed data will be historically very skewed as student behavior will show major changes due to COVID that will probably "right" itself over the next few years.
One key part of this is the academic school make up of both universities. They are VERY different. Over 50% of CU's incoming freshman class was science and engineering majors. The breadth of majors offered as well as the depth of more liberal arts majors offered at Carolina will naturally shape their freshman class very differently. Also a part of this is USC's enrollment is 20% minority. Which, as a flagship public university, is extremely important.
Someone mentioned marketing....I think USC has shown dramatic improvements in marketing and recruitment of the university. I know several folks that work in USC admissions and they are considered national leaders in the field.
Also, South Carolina has 56 nationally ranked academic programs and 12 top 25 graduate programs. It has #1 program rankings for undergraduate international business, graduate international MBA, Exercise Science PhD and the #1 public college Honors College and ranked #1 for first year undergradute experience.
I do agree at the end of the day they are very different schools when students are looking for "fit". When I was at Carolina, I had lots of friends at Clempson (grew up in the upstate) and most were bored to death there. Their weekend trips to Columbia to escape the boredom were fun at first but got old after awhile.
Smart people realize a national championship in football does not equal the best education they can get. Not that the two couldn't coincide, but it's highly unlikely.
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