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I don't like the black helmets much, but it seems like we have it figured out.
Beamer to change Logo, Uniforms and Helmets?
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USCBatgirl21
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I've said it before and I'll say it again - 1987 needs to be our look. It appears that we've adopted that jersey look for the black, garnet, and white tops. I'm fine with white pants only. We only do full Fire Ants All Garnet/Gameday Garnet for special games, as it should have always been.
NO ALL BLACK EVER AGAIN!
(And yes, thank heavens all the stripes match now.)
NO ALL BLACK EVER AGAIN!
(And yes, thank heavens all the stripes match now.)
I wouldn’t say that but they keep getting closer to it every year. They still are changing different details on the helmets and jerseys and don’t have all combos working together. Sometimes the garnet helmets still have the white circle also.
This is perfect. Everything matches and looks good.
This is not perfect. With a white helmet on all garnet the middle stripe on the jersey and pants should be white because it would look better and match the white numbers. It changes from helmet to helmet with what looks best. And the old white helmet with the middle stripe black during Spurrier era would look better on the all garnet combo.
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That’s already happened, just in the wrong direction. Welcome to the Brave New World of Generation Z where right is wrong, up is down, forward is backward, and the meaning of every word is whatever is convenient at the moment, and everything is politicized (that last is the only thing that’s NOT new, as everything about Carolina is and always has been totally under the thumb of the corrupt, worthless career politicians over at the Statehouse and their equally corrupt cronies, who trash everything they touch in their endless pursuit of personal power and gain)
100% agree. It's a baseball-style logo, not football. Haven't heard anything about changing uniforms. I'd be highly, highly surprised, if not dumbfounded if that has crossed his mind on the slightest.
If 1987 needs to be our look, the only jersey we wore at home that season was black, & the only pants we wore on the road that season were black.
This is ridiculous. The uniforms were correct in 1980 when George Rodgers won the Heisman. That team went 8-4 and we still to this day see highlights of #38 from that year. Also the Fire Ant uniforms were correct in 1984 and that team went 10-2 wearing all Garnet. I would like to see either one of those again. The History of SC uniforms is so interesting. Gamecock Archives
Please provide me with your definition of "correct" & I'll happily debate you on this.
Yeah, I see how all of our imaginative uniform combinations have attracted so many elite recruits. NOT! So, that theory can be trashed. I'm in favor of traditional football uniforms. I won't mention that cow college from the upstate, so I will stick with Alabama, Texas, Michigan, Auburn, Ohio State, Oklahoma, etc for the continuity of their uniforms and identity. We should do the same. My opinion.
I agree with you, but if you think about it, there really isn't a program on our level that has a traditional, leave-it-alone uniform, is there?
I get the feeling that Beamer will keep things simple with uniforms. He and his dad seem pretty conservative.
Look here........if I could be made emperor of all things Gamecock, this is exactly what I would do.
First of all, the helmet.....It would be this & there'd never be anything else ever on our heads. The stripe sequence down the center would be exactly the sequence on our britches too.
Now, I would also make "big game garnet" a reality, meaning, if it ain't a "big game," garnet (jerseys nor britches) ain't getting worn. This means our standard home uniform would be black jerseys, white britches & standard road uniforms would be white jerseys & white britches. Now when a big game rolls around, put on the garnet jerseys at home (and add garnet britches if you choose, but I'd prefer to always just wear the white) & garnet britches on the road.
Black britches can be in the closet but can be worn sparingly. MAYBE for one home game a year & one road game a year, but keep black/white & white/white as the standard home & road uniform.
The white britches would look like these, which 100% match the helmet:
So there...........this is the best & most logical scenario. Someone should make it happen!
First of all, the helmet.....It would be this & there'd never be anything else ever on our heads. The stripe sequence down the center would be exactly the sequence on our britches too.
Now, I would also make "big game garnet" a reality, meaning, if it ain't a "big game," garnet (jerseys nor britches) ain't getting worn. This means our standard home uniform would be black jerseys, white britches & standard road uniforms would be white jerseys & white britches. Now when a big game rolls around, put on the garnet jerseys at home (and add garnet britches if you choose, but I'd prefer to always just wear the white) & garnet britches on the road.
Black britches can be in the closet but can be worn sparingly. MAYBE for one home game a year & one road game a year, but keep black/white & white/white as the standard home & road uniform.
The white britches would look like these, which 100% match the helmet:
So there...........this is the best & most logical scenario. Someone should make it happen!
The CAROLINA font sucks to me. The 2005 font was better in the picture above.
I'm a garnet helmet guy.
I'm a garnet helmet guy.
You are sooooooooooo correct about the font.
Garnet helmets, unfortunately, remind me of the 90s.
I wouldn’t mind seeing this. I like your ideas. The pants stripes definitely need to match the helmet stripes if we are using the white spurrier helmets. They would need to also get the pant stripes right when wearing garnet or black and the stripes on the jerseys right also.Look here........if I could be made emperor of all things Gamecock, this is exactly what I would do.
First of all, the helmet.....It would be this & there'd never be anything else ever on our heads. The stripe sequence down the center would be exactly the sequence on our britches too.
Now, I would also make "big game garnet" a reality, meaning, if it ain't a "big game," garnet (jerseys nor britches) ain't getting worn. This means our standard home uniform would be black jerseys, white britches & standard road uniforms would be white jerseys & white britches. Now when a big game rolls around, put on the garnet jerseys at home (and add garnet britches if you choose, but I'd prefer to always just wear the white) & garnet britches on the road.
Black britches can be in the closet but can be worn sparingly. MAYBE for one home game a year & one road game a year, but keep black/white & white/white as the standard home & road uniform.
The white britches would look like these, which 100% match the helmet:
So there...........this is the best & most logical scenario. Someone should make it happen!
I am actually a fan of the Garnet helmets also only if they look like this.
But if they decide to keep the garnet helmets like this
with the black stripe in the middle and the white circle around the block c and a black chin strap then I am not a fan of that. I would rather see the white helmets. It’s to hard to match the home jerseys stripes with white numbers with the helmets like that. So you have white numbers and black stripes. It doesn’t look good all together.
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I had to sign up to The Insider Board and see what they were saying. It really is a totally different forum.
Haha Familiar, yes but opinions are different.Yes it is. However, the uniform discussion is... familiar.
I think it's a South Carolina logo. It specifies we are South, not a big C, which just says Carolina.
I would wear black pants at home.It would take an idiot to want to change this:
Uniforms play a part in recruiting.
And the '84 retro all garnet is irrelevant?
There are 3 different retro combos: '80 with CAROLINA, '84 all garnet with GAMECOCKS, & '87 garnet/black/white with GAMECOCKS.
This is a good George Rogers retro look if they remove the jersey stripes and make the CAROLINA the right size.
The logo below isn't for us, yet it's exactly the same with slightly different colors.
It’s worked well for those teams because those teams don’t give a rats a** about what uniforms they are wearing each week.
I would still like to see something like this. It was done very quickly, AND I have no visual art skill!
I would still like to see something like this. It was done very quickly, AND I have no visual art skill!
PETA would be all over a**es in 2 seconds.
Why? Our mascot is a gamecock, and it's known this is what gamecocks use. Also, It's actually part of our main logo anyway. If you look at the bottom foot, this is the same image.
PETA made a half-hearted effort about 20 years ago to get us to change our nickname and were swiftly rebuffed. With how the climate has shifted and all the free time the social justice warrior types have on their hands to find things to be offended at, I'm really surprised this hasn't come up again.
I think if we were put to make the killing instrument the prominent feature on our uniforms, it might bring some unwanted attention.
USCBatgirl21
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Yet they still refused to put spurs on the new bronze Gamecock for fear of backlash. Lest we forget that spurs are a natural part on roosters.
The difference is cockfighters usually remove the natural spurs and replace them with metal ones, or cover the natural with a sharp metal blade.
I understand. I just view it as being similar to what FSU uses. Their actual logo (used for graphics and at midfield) is the head, but their helmets have the spear on them for the logo.
Yes. In our case, every representation of the spur I've seen on a Gamecock shows it as the attached kind.
Apples and oranges really. Cockfighting is taboo, so highlighting the killing instrument used in cockfighting (as noted in Batgirl's post) would be risky.
I'm not saying I agree with the rationale. Teams should call themselves whatever they want and have whatever logo they want. Maybe PETA wouldn't care at all. They haven't really messed with us for the past 20 years, so perhaps we're just not a big enough fish to worry about.
And the '84 retro all garnet is irrelevant?
There are 3 different retro combos: '80 with CAROLINA, '84 all garnet with GAMECOCKS, & '87 garnet/black/white with GAMECOCKS.
This is a good George Rogers retro look if they remove the jersey stripes and make the CAROLINA the right size.
If we're being totally honest, the 1980 uniforms look like shit. That garnet facemask is awful. Thankfully, JoMo changed our facemasks to black & they've been that way since. The jersey, both home & away, didn't have a shitting like of black on it. No thanks!
Let's go incredibly radical and change the mascot. Then nobody should be able to get their panties in a wad.
Seriously, though, what's PETA going to do? Boycott? People who watch or attend games aren't usually worried about what the mascot represents unless it is obviously discriminatory or something similar.
Seriously, though, what's PETA going to do? Boycott? People who watch or attend games aren't usually worried about what the mascot represents unless it is obviously discriminatory or something similar.
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