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Beamer's recruiting is killing the haters here....

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You're throwing up Air Raid stats....my argument on FGF about.....ehhhhh one year ago . I also reference it in another post. Air Raid numbers are what they are. You aren't going to find "bad" AR numbers. You have to look and compare to other AR QBs from past and present...that's all you can do.

Sadly....the one bright spot Beamer could've brought (the offense)....and he did not. He isn't an expert in it...but he could've easily hired a guy. Even a guy who is in a similar system to OC (like L. Riley's lil bro...at SMU). So, these numbers will not exist for Rattler in Columbia. Bad news broken, and I'm sorry to be the messenger. I WOULD be very excited to have an AR qb like Rattler in Columbia....if we are running AR.

The guy can throw….our O is not complicated. Many qbs are system products. I’ll match my football knowledge up against anyone on this board. And I’m not saying he’s going to be great or a bomb here. He has arm talent and he can run. We’ll see how that works.
 
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The guy can throw….our O is not complicated. Many qbs are system products. I’ll match my football knowledge up against anyone on this board. And I’m not saying he’s going to be great or a bomb here. He has arm talent and he can run. We’ll see how that works.
LOL...I know he can throw. He's also mobile. But...He also has played in AR systems....and with all that football knowledge you have I hope you can see that we run almost the antithesis of that offensive system currently personnel wise. I have seen a couple AR plays thrown in..just like I've seen several other mish-mashed staple plays thrown in our offense...but what he's leaving and coming to SYSTEM WISE....is like exiting a Ferrari and getting in a VW bug. Turn on the UT game vs. Carolina this year for quick reference.
We are a base 12 personnel team. You can make an argument for a Y or H in Air Raid to be a "TE type"....and it still works. But if you give an AR guy a choice between Cordarelle Patterson and Justice Cunningham to play "Y" OR "H"......100% of coaches are taking CP. You can talk about "Power Raid" if you want to...that's just the system's adjustment to everyone else catching up. It's flexible.
 
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Damn Rob, I already had four links ready to go for Watson and then I looked at your post and went back and now my draft post is gone. Now I have to start over. :)

Maybe Watson can read yours until I get back to mine. He obviously hates good news. I never put too much into one player, but Watson only puts hope in players on other teams.

Hey Watson….are the opinions on 247 or Rivals the Bible for you? Just checking before I bother so you don’t come back with more trying to get the last word BS.
 
LOL...I know he can throw. He's also mobile. But...He also has played in AR systems....and with all that football knowledge you have I hope you can see that we run almost the antithesis of that offensive system currently personnel wise. I have seen a couple AR plays thrown in..just like I've seen several other mish-mashed staple plays thrown in our offense...but what he's leaving and coming to SYSTEM WISE....is like exiting a Ferrari and getting in a VW bug. Turn on the UT game vs. Carolina this year for quick reference. We are a base 12 personnel team.

Everyone thought Todd Ellis was a “great passer.” He was one of my favorite players but he was a product of his high school and college run and gun offense. Great stats….but never led us from behind for a win. I always thought we had a chance to win with Todd, but reality is he through more pics than touchdowns almost. I understand the system analysis.
I have watched Rattler numerous times…..he can help us big time. Our O is not unlike many others…we just don’t execute. If you know of another better quarterback on campus, I’m all ears.
 
LOL...I know he can throw. He's also mobile. But...He also has played in AR systems....and with all that football knowledge you have I hope you can see that we run almost the antithesis of that offensive system currently personnel wise. I have seen a couple AR plays thrown in..just like I've seen several other mish-mashed staple plays thrown in our offense...but what he's leaving and coming to SYSTEM WISE....is like exiting a Ferrari and getting in a VW bug. Turn on the UT game vs. Carolina this year for quick reference.
We are a base 12 personnel team. You can make an argument for a Y or H in Air Raid to be a "TE type"....and it still works. But if you give an AR guy a choice between Cordarelle Patterson and Justice Cunningham to play "Y".......100% of coaches are taking CP. You can talk about "Power Raid" if you want to...that's just the system's adjustment to everyone else catching up. It's flexible.

those links in my post somehow got into our conversation. Those were meant for Watson because he wanted proof that someone considered rattler a top prospect in the transfer portal. It had nothing to do with that system discussion you and I were having. I thought I had lost my draft reply to Watson but see I just screwed up and put them in our thread. Sorry to confuse the issue. Now we can continue on :)
 
You're throwing up Air Raid stats....my argument on FGF about.....ehhhhh one year ago . I also reference it in another post. Air Raid numbers are what they are. You aren't going to find "bad" AR numbers. You have to look and compare to other AR QBs from past and present...that's all you can do.

Sadly....the one bright spot Beamer could've brought (the offense)....and he did not. He isn't an expert in it...but he could've easily hired a guy. Even a guy who is in a similar system to OC (like L. Riley's lil bro...at SMU). So, these numbers will not exist for Rattler in Columbia. Bad news broken, and I'm sorry to be the messenger. I WOULD be very excited to have an AR qb like Rattler in Columbia....if we are running AR.
Ever notice this guy ^^^^^^ and Watson say the same thing yet purposefully disregard the fact that Beamer won six games with a grad assistant and a D3 player at qb? Tell these idiots to show us where literally any other P5 program ever did the same thing with a grad assistant QB. We'll wait.
 
Folks I feel like we have accomplished a lot in this thread. One thing is for sure, we know who the real Gamecock fans are and we damn sure know who aren't Gamecock fans as evidenced here. Congrats to all!
We do indeed know who the rah-rah sunshine pumpers are.
 
Because it was written AFTER he committed to Texas, and was focusing on the ones still available as of yesterday.

Ohh so it's not an actual list of the top transfers. It's only the ones who haven't already committed. Think that makes a difference?
 
Ever notice this guy ^^^^^^ and Watson say the same thing yet purposefully disregard the fact that Beamer won six games with a grad assistant and a D3 player at qb? Tell these idiots to show us where literally any other P5 program ever did the same thing with a grad assistant QB. We'll wait.
So if he won 6 game with a grad assistant, how many is he going to win next year with a former 5 star recruit?

Do you have the guts to set an over/under?
 
Ohh so it's not an actual list of the top transfers. It's only the ones who haven't already committed. Think that makes a difference?
You asked for a list that had him at #1. It was provided.

You asked why Ewers wasn't on the list. You were provided with the answer.

Really don't care what you think about the lists. You're either going to find something wrong with what's presented to you or twist things around to suit your side or move the goalposts when proven wrong. It's what you do.
 
Hey Watson….are the opinions on 247 or Rivals the Bible for you? Just checking before I bother so you don’t come back with more trying to get the last word BS.
Those rankings have input from multiple people. The link you guys are quoting didn't even include the best transfer QB of all lol.

Any one can make a list for the article. With Rivals and 247 there are at least a couple people coming to a consensus to make it somewhat legitimate.
 
Patently true. You can't sanely argue these facts. Troy, ECU, Vandy, A&M, Tenn, Clemson.
That stats are out there. The game film exists. It was terrible. Some of those games mentioned are in the top 10 -12 worst Carolina game performances in the last 40 years all in one year. Throw in Navy in 80s, Clemson IN 89 & 03....sure.
Yet we won 6 games. Very few predicted that. We won games we weren’t supposed to and didn’t lose a game we were favored in. Some people ONLY see the negative.
 
So if he won 6 game with a grad assistant, how many is he going to win next year with a former 5 star recruit?

Do you have the guts to set an over/under?
I can't predict the future. I can say you are not a Gamecock fan. I can also say you have been thoroughly defeated and posterized in this thread. I realize your goal is to continue puking out your horseshit because if you get the last word, somehow that means you've won something in that big dumb head of yours. Anyway, I had fun and am pleasantly satisfied with my efforts here.
 
I can't predict the future. I can say you are not a Gamecock fan. I can also say you have been thoroughly defeated and posterized in this thread. I realize your goal is to continue puking out your horseshit because if you get the last word, somehow that means you've won something in that big dumb head of yours. Anyway, I had fun and am pleasantly satisfied with my efforts here.
The fact you get this one wrong explains a lot about your other incorrect conclusions.

No one is asking you to actually predict the the future. You're being asked to quit hiding around generalities and admit when you're wrong.
 
Those rankings have input from multiple people. The link you guys are quoting didn't even include the best transfer QB of all lol.

Any one can make a list for the article. With Rivals and 247 there are at least a couple people coming to a consensus to make it somewhat legitimate.
Ok, so add Ewers, that makes Spencer #2. Why are you making a big deal about us getting the #2 QB in the portal? Shouldn’t you be happy with that news?
 
Ok, so add Ewers, that makes Spencer #2. Why are you making a big deal about us getting the #2 QB in the portal? Shouldn’t you be happy with that news?

I'm actually happy about the transfer. That's the difference between you and me. I can be happy and also objective.

I find it interesting that others claim to be happy but then are making up things. So he went from being alleged to be the #1 transfer prospect, to the #1 transfer qb, to the #2 transfer qb if you add in Ewers...
I guess differing sports businesses rating him the #1 transfer prospect was dreamed up.

I don't see the benefit of making up "facts" if you're actually happy about the situation.
 
The fact you get this one wrong explains a lot about your other incorrect conclusions.

No one is asking you to actually predict the the future. You're being asked to quit hiding around generalities and admit when you're wrong.
Generally, I'm never wrong.
 
I'm actually happy about the transfer. That's the difference between you and me. I can be happy and also objective.

I find it interesting that others claim to be happy but then are making up things. So he went from being alleged to be the #1 transfer prospect, to the #1 transfer qb, to the #2 transfer qb if you add in Ewers...


I don't see the benefit of making up "facts" if you're actually happy about the situation.
In the article posted he was listed as #1, you bitched about Ewers not being on the list so I said make Spenser#2 them, now you claim he went from #1to #2. Face it. You just LOOK for shit to complain about.
 
Those rankings have input from multiple people. The link you guys are quoting didn't even include the best transfer QB of all lol.

Any one can make a list for the article. With Rivals and 247 there are at least a couple people coming to a consensus to make it somewhat legitimate.

lol…You are one of the people who if we get a four-star commitment on rivals you will post yeah “but he’s only a three star on 24/7.” You do the same thing if they are a four-star on 24/7 you come back and say well they are only a three star on rivals. You do this with team recruiting rankings as well ….if we are number 14 on rivals you will say “well were only number 23 on 24/7.

I have been on here a long time and I know everyone’s tricks. You can respond but I am out now. I choose to enjoy positive results like a good week in recruiting.
 
Unfortunately this is true (as of now). You all watch the games, correct?
Our team struggled mightily with ECU, Troy, Vandy....and got embarrassed against Tennessee, A&M, Clemson.
I mean...you aren't a detractor from the Carolina football team if you acknowledge that our two late wins in the season were in fact against teams that were shyte shows. UF....we all saw. Auburn...even with their injuries when we played them...their best two offensive players, and the two that the offense is built around bolt? We didn't leap tall mountains this year. I love those two wins...but the coaching, calls, gameplan and execution in 6 of our games this year were fireable offenses first year or not.
Please change your handle. You’re doing the man who wore that name and number no justice at all!
 
lol…You are one of the people who if we get a four-star commitment on rivals you will post yeah “but he’s only a three star on 24/7.” You do the same thing if they are a four-star on 24/7 you come back and say well they are only a three star on rivals. You do this with team recruiting rankings as well ….if we are number 14 on rivals you will say “well were only number 23 on 24/7.

I have been on here a long time and I know everyone’s tricks. You can respond but I am out now. I choose to enjoy positive results like a good week in recruiting.
Nice attempt at saving face instead of admitting he's not the #1 transfer prospect or QB on any recruiting service.
 
Ever notice this guy ^^^^^^ and Watson say the same thing yet purposefully disregard the fact that Beamer won six games with a grad assistant and a D3 player at qb? Tell these idiots to show us where literally any other P5 program ever did the same thing with a grad assistant QB. We'll wait.
Ever thought of the possibility that Watson and DeBoer are one in the same? A distinct possibility in my opinion. I'm putting them both on ignore....
 
This guy reminds me of the losers who used to get on the ESPN forums back in the late 90’s and pretend to be fans of another school.

If one of us were to try this on THEIR message board, we would be banned within the hour. Is Chris O. still running this site? Who are the mods here? It’s time to take the reigns and start banning these dorks before they waste 6 pages of our time, trying to convince us that WE’RE crazy. You guys wanna make changes to our position in the football world? Let’s make our board like theirs and stop allowing this crap.

I’ll volunteer to bounce. I’ll also happily accept their IP addresses so that I can remove all doubt from anyone’s mind as to who they are…

Go COCKS!!!!!!!!!
 
Everyone thought Todd Ellis was a “great passer.” He was one of my favorite players but he was a product of his high school and college run and gun offense. Great stats….but never led us from behind for a win. I always thought we had a chance to win with Todd, but reality is he through more pics than touchdowns almost. I understand the system analysis.
I have watched Rattler numerous times…..he can help us big time. Our O is not unlike many others…we just don’t execute. If you know of another better quarterback on campus, I’m all ears.
Yes....Greensboro Page was one of the early Run n Shoot offenses around in HS.
I didn't say we had a better one...or that Rattler sucks. But, he is going to be in a non-explosive offense....without question. Will it be more dynamic than this year? It has to be...but it won't be a 42 PPG avg. offense with 534 yards per game...unless they go full AR.
 
Ever thought of the possibility that Watson and DeBoer are one in the same? A distinct possibility in my opinion. I'm putting them both on ignore....
I'm not anybody else. You no likey the truth, eh?
Go Gamecocks.
Gameocks > Shane Beamer
 
Ever thought of the possibility that Watson and DeBoer are one in the same? A distinct possibility in my opinion. I'm putting them both on ignore....
I did the same thing. I’m reaching out to one of the guys who originally ran this site. Anyone who has contact info for board moderators, please PM me. I’ll make it my personal mission to rid this place of tater propagandists!!!
 
Purposely disregard winning 6 games? I'm elated we won 6 games. Hopefully there will be 6 teams in as dire shape as those teams we beat this year; those teams including 2 that got rid of their coaches, one that had a rookie SEC coach with his best offensive players out and discontent on the team. All that is reality. It doesn't mean I don't acknowledge or enjoy the 6 wins...it just means I know playing in the SEC it is unlikely that kind of luck happens two years in a row. If you are a Carolina fan before Dec. 2020....you know this.
Idiots? You are touting Shane Beamer as a savior of USC football. I will wait......
Ever notice this guy ^^^^^^ and Watson say the same thing yet purposefully disregard the fact that Beamer won six games with a grad assistant and a D3 player at qb? Tell these idiots to show us where literally any other P5 program ever did the same thing with a grad assistant QB. We'll wait.
 
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