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Every second half point for Duke was scored by freshmen

DarkCock

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Reggie Miller: "When you go to Duke, you're going to play under the umbrella that the best players are going to take the floor; it just so happened that all his best players are young guys."

I kind of wish that was Coach Staley's philosophy.
 
I agree. We got to where our best players weren't coming in until we were down 10 or 12 points with the starters.
 
Originally posted by cockycurran:
That's a myth.
Really good NBA players that came out of Duke: Kyrie Iriving, Grant Hill.

Compare that with their list of lottery picks.
 
Parker was having a ROY campaign before the injury. Luol Deng, Singler and Redick have had really good careers. Rodney Hood is doing very well in the league as well. Elton Brand has had a good career as well.
 
Originally posted by wentzel25:

Originally posted by cockycurran:
That's a myth.
Really good NBA players that came out of Duke: Kyrie Iriving, Grant Hill.

Compare that with their list of lottery picks.
Is that supposed to be slight or a compliment (or neither)? Because what you're saying is that Coach K has won 5 national titles and gone to a gazillion Final Fours without having many elite players.
 
Originally posted by CockIt75:
Parker was having a ROY campaign before the injury. Luol Deng, Singler and Redick have had really good careers. Rodney Hood is doing very well in the league as well. Elton Brand has had a good career as well.
I think we have different definitions of really good. Deng, Singler and Reddick are decent role players. None are a first, second or third option on offense. Deng's a good defender, whereas Singler and Reddick are liabilities. Brand started off great, but as soon as he got his first big contract was terrible. Haven't seen Hood play, can't comment on that.
You don't use lottery picks on guys you anticipate being being role players, however.
 
Here's a graphic from 2013 that lists all the Duke players in the NBA

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Obviously a couple of those guys are retired now, but the list is also missing Kyrie Irving and Jabari Parker.

What am I missing here? Besides Kentucky is there some other university churning out NBA superstars on a yearly basis?

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Originally posted by DarkCock:
Here's a graphic from 2013 that lists all the Duke players in the NBA

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Obviously a couple of those guys are retired now, but the list is also missing Kyrie Irving and Jabari Parker.

What am I missing here? Besides Kentucky is there some other university churning out NBA superstars on a yearly basis?
It's not that they don't produce a good amount of talent; it's that the produce many more busts/underachievers than guys who live up to their lofty draft status. Kyrie and Grant are great, no one can argue that.
But each of the guys who have made all-start games, there are 5 more busts, often who were drafted in the lottery. The Cherokee Parks, Bobby Hurley, Chris Duhon, Jay Williams, Shelden Williams, etc.
It's not about how long you stick, but how you play relative to your draft position. Lots of these guys were expected to be stars, few panned out.
With all that said, would I rather take a potential star from Duke over a potential start from Gonzaga, hell yeah. Relative to other elite schools, though, Duke seems to have been a disappointment.
Look at Texas they've got Durant, Aldridge and Tristan Thompson right now.
UCLA recently has put Westbrook, Holiday and Love in the league
Kentucky's got Cousins, Wall, Davis, Bledsoe.

Those are all just recent examples, and even adding Kyrie, Duke's had way more players who haven't been great than ones who have.
 
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