Golfers wincing about US Open, when did the crying start in US sports? ...
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The US Open is supposed to be a brutal test.
Our guys are pansies. That's why the Europeans keep whipping our ass in the Ryder Cup.
Our guys are pansies. That's why the Europeans keep whipping our ass in the Ryder Cup.
I agree with it needing to be a brutal test, however, the greens look like CRAP on a MONDAY. By Sunday afternoon they are going to be patches of PO and a lot of dirt. I don't mind seeing the winning score around par. I just don't want to see them putting on a patch of dirt. JMHO
Of all the majors US Open is my least favorite. I think they trick up the courses too much. There aren't options if you miss a fairway. If you do you basically lose a stroke. One year they went so far as to put in a tree between rounds because the golfers were using their creativity to play a hole.
I'll take the Masters or British Open as more fun to watch. But I'll still watch.
I'll take the Masters or British Open as more fun to watch. But I'll still watch.
The pussification of America has been underway since the mid 1960s and has escalated greatly in the last 10 years.
I can recall that Jimmy Connors was the first whiner in Tennis, followed by John McEnroe back in the seventies but golfers just recently.
I'm not sure, but there has to be a correlation between crybaby athletes and PC youth sports that don't keep score and give everybody trophies. Kids cry because they haven't yet learned to deal with the agony of defeat. If they never have to experience it as kids, then you end up with crying adults who are dealing with reality for the first time in their lives.
I seem to remember a lot of whining about Hazeltine when the U.S. Open was held there in 1970.
http://articles.sun-sentinel.com/1991-06-13/sports/9103030610_1_hazeltine-par-nicklaus
http://articles.sun-sentinel.com/1991-06-13/sports/9103030610_1_hazeltine-par-nicklaus
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It is a different game, it forces a golfer to make decisions they never make.
same thing with Wingfoot. The Open is occasionally the professional version of goofy golf. Severe penalty for bad shots and often penalized for a good shot. Hit three great shots and somehow get a bogey.
It is a different game, it forces a golfer to make decisions they never make.
You're wrong. This is from a book titled, "Ben Hogan: The Myths Everyone Knows, the Man No One Knew," by Tim Scott, referring to the course setup for the 1951 US Open at Oakland Hills:
"The course was so difficult that the golfers were howling and complaining in a way that they haven't at any Open since," noted sportswriter/author Dan Jenkins. Jenkins wrote that Cary Middlecoff said, "You have to walk down these fairways single file." He noted that Sam Snead complained, "I thought I was going to a golf tournament, not on safari." Jenkins even quoted [Ben] Hogan as saying, "If I had to play this course for a living every week, I'd get into another business."
I hope Mickelson can somehow, someway pull this one off, and get the grand slam. I won't hold my breath though.
Tiger needs to join Jack and Arnie next year as when they hit the Ceremonial Tee Shots at the Augusta National.
Ha, my post was definitely tongue in cheek. Its always so easy to romanticize the past.
I'm like a few others, I don't see how any pga golfer can whine! They get treated like kings, paid on performance and have a pretty cushy life. As for the course, they are all playing the same conditions and pace of play, so shut up and play!
As long as everyone plays on the same playing field i could care less - let em putt on gravel it's who plays the best.
World class player one after the other missing 3 footers, this time I have to agree with Mr. Poulter's rant!
http://www.cbssports.com/golf/eye-o...nt-on-instagram-eviscerating-disgraceful-usga
http://www.cbssports.com/golf/eye-o...nt-on-instagram-eviscerating-disgraceful-usga
It's like crying about having to play football in the snow and ice. Everyone plays on the same field or plays on the same course. Don't worry, next tournament they will probably be able to shoot 23 under. They knew the conditions and it was there choice to play.
The putting surfaces were a joke. There is an element of randomness in golf as with any sport, but for a major championship, you want to minimize those. Whether the ball went in the hole or not was often a case of luck as it was skill. On Sunday, Brandt Snedeker had an uphill putt I'm guessing was about 30 feet. About 20 feet into its roll, the ball popped three inches in the air, lost its forward momentum, and rolled back down the slope.
I don't blame the players for complaining. If the field conditions at the Super Bowl were causing players to trip and fall when no one touched them, football fans would be justifiably outraged. This is the U.S. Open, not the Hooters Hartford Open. There's a reason the U.S. Open had never been held in the Pacific Northwest before, and it's because weather conditions don't allow the greens to be ready for such an important event by mid-June. I hope the USGA doesn't make that mistake again.
I don't blame the players for complaining. If the field conditions at the Super Bowl were causing players to trip and fall when no one touched them, football fans would be justifiably outraged. This is the U.S. Open, not the Hooters Hartford Open. There's a reason the U.S. Open had never been held in the Pacific Northwest before, and it's because weather conditions don't allow the greens to be ready for such an important event by mid-June. I hope the USGA doesn't make that mistake again.
USCBatgirl21
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I have to agree with Morris. There is really no reason that the greens should be that unpredictable in a Major championship, meaning there is no reason that the surface should be able to change ball direction (coming backward) by the ball literally hitting something an coming inches off the playing surface. It affected everyone, even Jordan, all week long.
Not to mention they simply looked terrible. And Fox's coverage was less than appealing.
I did, however, like it being in prime time. That was nice for a change, especially during a time when there really isn't anything on TV on Sundays.
Not to mention they simply looked terrible. And Fox's coverage was less than appealing.
I did, however, like it being in prime time. That was nice for a change, especially during a time when there really isn't anything on TV on Sundays.
That putt by Snedeker was the craziest thing I've ever seen in a major.
I doubt that course will ever host another major.
I doubt that course will ever host another major.
Sure would have been fun to see the kid and DJ in an 18 hole prime time showdown though!
USCBatgirl21
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That would have been great. I'll admit...I was praying he'd miss the eagle putt, but make the birdie for a playoff.
Its one thing to make a course difficult and challenging (and it should be as these are the best golfers in the world) but it is quite another thing to make it difficult by playing the tournament on an unkept goat track like the one they played on this weekend. I think the golfers had every right to complain. When you reach the pinnacle of your profession as these guys have, they expect to play on the finest courses available. This course was a joke. Not only was it an unmaintained weed field, but it had a friggin railroad track running beside it with freight trains running up and down it. If it wasn't so sad it would have been comical.
If Lebron James showed up to play in the NBA finals and the NBA moved the game to an outdoor asphalt playground that had goals with no nets, don't you think he would have a right to complain? Supposed the moved the Superbowl to a high school field that doubled as a soccer field? Don't you think Peyton Manning would have a right to complain.
With the millions of $ the PGA has to invest in these tournaments there is no excuse in playing on a course most ameteurs would not pay money to play on. This was a joke.
If Lebron James showed up to play in the NBA finals and the NBA moved the game to an outdoor asphalt playground that had goals with no nets, don't you think he would have a right to complain? Supposed the moved the Superbowl to a high school field that doubled as a soccer field? Don't you think Peyton Manning would have a right to complain.
With the millions of $ the PGA has to invest in these tournaments there is no excuse in playing on a course most ameteurs would not pay money to play on. This was a joke.
As long as everyone is on the same course, field or playground they need to grow up. Best golfer still won the US Open. They all had the same chance,
It's the generation after yours, of course. I love the selective memory.
I have no idea when criticism became synonymous with complaining. Did you miss the former players that were critical of the course as well? It was much more than the course being too hard; it was more to do with how inconsistent the surface was.
Then why dont they just play in a cow pasture someplace? Why do we have pristine courses like Augusta National to hold these tournaments? You say the best golfer won, but how do you know? There were countless shots made that were very good ones - some almost perfect - by numerous players that ended in trouble because of the crappy course. We really didn't have a winner in this tournament. What we had was one that survived. Again, these are the best players in the world who have EARNED the right to compete in their tournaments at the finest facilities. This tournament was a slap in the face to the sport.
