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Good Jobs Were Done by Asst. Head Coach & Special Teams Coord Pete Lembo and Defensive Coordinator Clayton White
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Say it a million times. Facts are facts, but conclusions and opinions derived from those are NOT facts. No coach would just use that number a judge their OC. Not one. They would always consider the other factors I mentioned and probably a dozen other factors I didn't mention. Not sure why anyone here would do it, unless they had an agenda.
As for the raise and contract extension, yes, I would be fine with that for the entire staff, including Satterfield. I would like to see this staff stay together for a full 4 year recruiting cycle to get their own players and see what they can do. It would help with recruiting and maybe bring some consistency to a program that has been a mess since 2015. Switching OCs every year certainly hasn't worked for us. That being said, I would be fine if they waited a year too. There are risks with both scenarios.
No agenda on my part, except wanting the best for South Carolina football. As I said before: one time is bad luck, two times is a coincidence and three times is a habit, not to mention 4 times. And also as I mentioned before, I would not take the risk of giving Satterfield a pay raise nor extend his contract another year, in order to save money if we need to part with him after next season.
But, here is one thing we can agree on: we can agree to disagree.
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Wouldn't 21 points against Auburn be considered 'below average' since opposing teams averaged higher than that against them this season? Also, didn't 7 of those points come after Auburn turned the ball over inside their own 40 by going for it on 4th down against our improved Defense?
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We need to put this in perspective. We only won one game this year (East Carolina 7-5) that had a winning record. We have a lot of work to do. Winning a low tier bowl against a 6-6 team doesn't make us a world beater by any means. We need to beat the teams we are supposed to (including Kentucky and Mizzou) and win a game or two we aren't supposed to to make a significant step forward. Otherwise we are just stuck in mediocrity.
No, not if you are considering apples to apples and look at the games and the scoring. In regulation, opposing teams didn't score more than us. Bama only scored 10 and had the benefit of 4 overtimes to get to 24. Factor out extra time and the fact that 7 points vs TAMU came on a scoop and score by their defense that certainly isn't Auburn's defense's fault, and our offense actually scored more points than the average offense scored on their defense. If fact, just factor out all the extra points Bama got in OT, and we still score more than the average offense, apples to apples. Either way, you are splitting hairs. 21 points, give or take a fraction of a point, is what Auburn's defense gave up this year. And that was against some very good teams. The fact that we were there with our circumstances was definitely a good job by the offensive staff.
And yes, we got the short field on one drive, but the offense did put it in the end zone instead of settling for a field goal. The defense gets credit for giving them the short field, but the offense certainly gets credit for the 35 yards to get the TD. That was, in no way, a given. If we had to settle for a field goal, to me, the defense and the special teams get all the credit, since the offense wouldn't have done anything to improve the situation.
So Kent St, who scored 10 on TAMU, 7 on Iowa, and 16 on Maryland really is the #4 offense in the nation. That 60 they put on VMI and that 48 they scored on Buffalo balances things out and makes them comparable to P5 teams. Schedules don't matter. All that matters is that #4 beside they name in that one stat.
Yeah, we will just have to agree to disagree.
So, since Bama went to overtime and got an extra 14 points when we didn't need that, our offensive performance goes from above average to below average.
Yeah, that's really logical. lol
Or someone could choose the georgia state game to compare, since it tells a different story.
But that's why someone would choose an average, since it encompasses more than one game.
But that's too logical for some who are emotionally or matrimonially involved.
Nothing logical about what he said. And I'm not referring to one game.
We scored 21 points in regulation.
If you factor out the extra 14 points Bama scored in OT, the average their defense gave up in the other 12 games was 20.0 points. If you factor in the 14 points that we didn't need to score because we beat them in regulation, their defense gave up an average of 21.166666 in the other 12 games.
So, by that "logic", Bama's need to go to overtime to win makes our offensive performance go from "above average" to "below average".
It's truly amazing the length some "fans" will go to shit on our team. Idiotic.
You are using ONE season to try to make a point? I showed 4 seasons to make my argument. Those 4 (FOUR) seasons showed a habit....a trend....not bad luck nor a coincidence.
Do you really want to talk about schedule? OK. How do we compare in the SEC? Satterfield's Total Offense performance was 13th out of 14 teams, beating out only lowly Vanderbilt.
You prefer to measure by points scored? OK. South Carolina finished 104th in the nation in scoring out of 130 teams. Schedule concerns you? OK. South Carolina finished 13th in the SEC, beating only lowly Vanderbilt. Bear in mind, South Carolina produced one of the top defenses in the nation when it came to scoring defensive touchdowns, finishing tied at # 7 in the nation.
One of the best pieces of advice I have ever heard is: when you are in a hole, stop digging.
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And you follow that up by talking about one game, the Bama game.
You can play all the what-if scenarios you want, their average is just that, their average.
And it's a lot more logical to use that than your ramblings.
Wrong. I'm talking about 12 games, apples to apples.
Nothing logical about crapping on a team because they need .16666 more points to reach an average that was assisted by Bama needing overtime.
No, I'm just showing you how stupid it is to take one number with zero context to pass judgment on somebody. No head coach would ever do that. It's always more complicated than that.
Glad you weren't here when Spurrier came on board. He stunk it up with the Redskins, and both yards and points per game his first season at USC were less than this year.
But in the end, you don't have agree with me. The person that DOES agree with me is our head coach. And that's the one opinion that really matters.
Except I took what metric (Total Offense and Total Defense) is used as the ultimate measure of team units. It's comprehensive and encompasses running and passing. For the offenses, scoring points often does not tell an accurate story since defenses can score points. What's stupid is to use one year as a measurement. That's why I used 4 years.
Spurrier had a history of success. He was proven. Satterfield is not
I've said all along it was Beamer's call. After all, Satterfield was one of his groomsmen. It's HIS job on the line, not mine.
And presented with the argument, do you think he would agree with me or you?
So you think he is risking his entire coaching career and millions of dollars based on who was in his wedding in 2009?
That one stat is definitive and proves Satterfield is a terrible OC, but he is completely disregarding it for a groomsman. He passed over more qualified candidates to hire a subpar coach because of his wedding 13 years ago.
That's what Beamer did?
You know my opinion on Satterfield. To put it another way: if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, sounds like a duck, it's a duck.
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It is classic. We beat Auburn. Our offense scores 21 points, more than Ole Miss, more than TAMU, more than LSU, and more than Bama in regulation.
You and the other howling monkeys can sling poop at it all you want, but it doesn't matter. We still won. Beamer was happy. I was happy. Most real fans were happy. And Satterfield is still here.
Self awareness is a good thing, but I know you're missing the meaning of the comment.
I didn't miss anything. You are the one that can't seem to understand 12 game average based on just regulation vs 12 game average based on points scored in overtimes.
And like I said, it doesn't matter. It absolutely was CLASSIC. We won. Real fans were happy. Satterfield is still our OC. Next year is looking up. And you are still nothing more than a howling monkey slinging poop.
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No I didn't. You are just too stupid to understand that it wasn't about just one game. It was about apple to apples over 12 games. Regulation to regulation, not regulation vs points added in from overtime too. Yeah, it's complex. (not really) I don't expect you to understand. You've proven over and over again that math really isn't your thing.
But like I said, if you think it is fair crap on our offense because they scored .16666 points less than the average team offense scored against Auburn, then that's on you. Good luck with that. And not surprising in the least.
In the end, cry and sling poop all you want. Satterfield is still here. Deal with it.
Well, at least you've finally admitted the offense scored below what Auburn gave up on average.
Baby steps.
Not if you compare apples to apples, regulation to regulation.
Either way, it's not a "good point" or "logical" to pass judgement on our offensive performance off a fraction of a point either way against Auburn's average.
Well, now the backtracking begins. I will just repost your quote:
"But like I said, if you think it is fair crap on our offense because they scored .16666 points less than the average team offense scored against Auburn, then that's on you."
You had a moment of lucidity, at least.
Keep digging.
Looks like Sarah's having alcohol-fueled hot flashes again.
You're an interesting poo-flinger aren't you, howling monkey?
You have a great point! Carolina was near the top of the list for Defensive TDs in college football this season, and one of the better turnover producing teams. Our team averaged 22 points per game, our opponents averaged 24. Our defense was vastly improved, played lights out for much of the season, and kept us in many games by giving us a short field off turnovers or outright scoring (which also padded our offensive stats). Personally, I hope to see Satterfield's offense improve and prove me wrong next season since we can all agree that there will be plenty of talent. I think we would have won two more games with a more productive offense this season. End of the day, I'm happy to be 7-6 as opposed to something worse; but winners will always look for ways to acknowledge and improve on their weaknesses.
You are the poo slinger that was trying to talk down our offensive performance against Auburn over 1/6th of a point from average, and that's only because Bama scored 14 points in overtime. Apples to apples, it was actually above average. Not that general statements like above average and below average mean much without context unless you have an agenda and are trying to misled.
The assertion was that our offense stunk it up in the Auburn game. Well, that's just not true. Auburn has a very good defense and 21 points from our offense was, at minimum, a good job from our offensive staff considering the circumstances.
Maybe it's just me but, even subjectively, looking at some of the in-game play-calling was really "head-scratching". There was one play-call that stood out. I forget which game it was. But we were like on the 2-yard line, getting ready to score. It was like first and goal or something. He calls a trick play, throwing into the end zone. The pass is intercepted.
WTF kind of call was THAT? Was Satterfield drunk when he made that call?????????????
