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Good Jobs Were Done by Asst. Head Coach & Special Teams Coord Pete Lembo and Defensive Coordinator Clayton White

Why is there a singular focus on the Auburn game? Why not look at other games on the schedule or since you want to break down why teams total points aren’t relevant in certain situations why not break down how many games we would have one if the defense hadn’t scored TDs.
 
Why is there a singular focus on the Auburn game? Why not look at other games on the schedule or since you want to break down why teams total points aren’t relevant in certain situations why not break down how many games we would have one if the defense hadn’t scored TDs.

Because I was replying to a specific assertion.

"But, they more than made up for that by keeping us in the game to beat East Carolina, Troy, Vanderbilt and Auburn.......all games that the offense stunk up the place. "

The offense had some bad games, but Auburn wasn't one of them.
 
Maybe it's just me but, even subjectively, looking at some of the in-game play-calling was really "head-scratching". There was one play-call that stood out. I forget which game it was. But we were like on the 2-yard line, getting ready to score. It was like first and goal or something. He calls a trick play, throwing into the end zone. The pass is intercepted. :rolleyes: WTF kind of call was THAT? Was Satterfield drunk when he made that call?????????????

That was the beginning of the UT game, also known as the UT debacle.

And yes, a good example.
 
Why is there a singular focus on the Auburn game? Why not look at other games on the schedule or since you want to break down why teams total points aren’t relevant in certain situations why not break down how many games we would have one if the defense hadn’t scored TDs.

Because she's hell bent on arguing that scoring less than what Auburn gave up on average was a good thing for the offense.
 
Because she's hell bent on arguing that scoring less than what Auburn gave up on average was a good thing for the offense.
I don’t know that the Auburn game is even a bad argument. I would actually agree that the Auburn game was a pretty good offensive showing all things considered. Bobo helped of course which is why he’s no longer employed but it doesn’t change the production of the offensive unit.

What is interesting is the willingness to go into the details about Auburn’s play against other teams while not being willing to put that same focus on other games on the Carolina schedule.
 
Because I was replying to a specific assertion.

"But, they more than made up for that by keeping us in the game to beat East Carolina, Troy, Vanderbilt and Auburn.......all games that the offense stunk up the place. "

The offense had some bad games, but Auburn wasn't one of them.
I agree with you about the Auburn game being a bad example of the offensive frustration from last season. I think it could be argued that it was one of 3 decent offensive showings the team had this season with NC and Eastern Illinois included. Florida is borderline because the offense did move the ball for the most part but Florida was completely done in that game so it’s hard to gauge what that game really meant.

My point is that you are really willing to break this one down and talk about what other teams did versus Auburn while not taking the same approach to the Carolina offense in general. I get that this is one of very few instances that you can find a positive in the offense but that in and of itself should be telling.
 
I don’t know that the Auburn game is even a bad argument. I would actually agree that the Auburn game was a pretty good offensive showing all things considered. Bobo helped of course which is why he’s no longer employed but it doesn’t change the production of the offensive unit.

What is interesting is the willingness to go into the details about Auburn’s play against other teams while not being willing to put that same focus on other games on the Carolina schedule.
Maybe using the word "stunk" was a little harsh for the Auburn game. Maybe a better word for that game was "meh". Our offense in that game made fewer Total Yards than the average number of yards Auburn's defense had been giving up going into that game. Defense and special teams won that game for us more so than the offense did. However, "stunk" was appropriate for the East Carolina, Troy and Vanderbilt games. And can it be denied that our offense stunk in the Kentucky and Texas A&M games? If we got 7 points every time our offense got across the 50-yard line against Texas A&M, would we have won that game? LOL. I wish we had the stat on that.

How bad was our offense? Florida's and North Carolina's Defensive Coordinators got fired immediately after our games. Outsiders looked at those games and said "Goodness, you let South Carolina's offense do that to you? Get outta here, Defensive Coordinator, and don't let the door hit you on the rear". LOL
 
Lembo came in with a reputation as one of the very best Special Teams coaches in the nation. It showed this season. Out of 130 teams, we finished:
tied for 9th in Blocked Kicks
having 0 of our own kicks blocked
tied for 7th in Blocked Punts
having 0 of our own punts blocked
25th in Kickoff Return Defense
25th in Kickoff Returns
52nd in Net Punting

Clayton White had been Defensive Coordinator at Western Kentucky from 2017-20. 3 of his 4 defensive units finished among the Top 50 in the nation. The last two finished in in the Top 30. His first South Carolina defense finished:
41st in Total Defense
46th in Scoring Defense
tied for 7th in Defensive touchdowns.

In the bowl game against North Carolina, White's defense limited North Carolina to 21 points. North Carolina came into that game with the 9th ranked offense in the nation, averaging 36 points per game.

Good jobs done by Lembo and White. They deserve pay raises and contract extensions. I can't say enough about what good of a job Beamer did in those two hires.
I agree with all of this, but do not like contract extensions based on one year
 
You are the poo slinger that was trying to talk down our offensive performance against Auburn over 1/6th of a point from average, and that's only because Bama scored 14 points in overtime. Apples to apples, it was actually above average. Not that general statements like above average and below average mean much without context unless you have an agenda and are trying to misled.

The assertion was that our offense stunk it up in the Auburn game. Well, that's just not true. Auburn has a very good defense and 21 points from our offense was, at minimum, a good job from our offensive staff considering the circumstances.


Is reading not your strong suit, angry monkey? Where did I say our offense stunk it up in the Auburn game? I believe the words used were 'below average'? Correct me if I'm wrong... but 21 points is lower than 21.6 (which would be rounded up to 22)? If you feel that fact means we 'stunk it up' then that is on you, but don't put words in my mouth.

I notice you keep pounding you chest about Alabama, but won't give the defense the credit it deserves for keeping us in games and regularly putting points on the board or giving us a short field for gimme scores. Let me ask you this:

If you had to rank our offensive, defensive, and special teams units this season from 1st to 3rd. How would you rank them?
 
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Also, since you keep bringing up Alabama, let's take a look at average points per game throughout the league:


Alabama averaged nearly twice what we scored per game. We were ranked 13 out of 14. 12th ranked team (LSU) scored nearly a field goal more than we did and only one team (Vanderbilt) scored less, with most teams averaging close to a touchdown more per game than us. Being ranked 13th out of 14 qualifies as... below average... does it not?
 
I agree with you about the Auburn game being a bad example of the offensive frustration from last season. I think it could be argued that it was one of 3 decent offensive showings the team had this season with NC and Eastern Illinois included. Florida is borderline because the offense did move the ball for the most part but Florida was completely done in that game so it’s hard to gauge what that game really meant.

My point is that you are really willing to break this one down and talk about what other teams did versus Auburn while not taking the same approach to the Carolina offense in general. I get that this is one of very few instances that you can find a positive in the offense but that in and of itself should be telling.

Again, that wasn't what I was doing. I was addressing another specific assertion.

Another poster stated that the offensive performance against Auburn was "below average" because we score 21 points, which was 1/6th of a point below the average that all other offenses scored against Auburn this year (21.16666). I stated that wasn't really a fair assessment in judging our offense for that game, and even if you think it is, that was only because Alabama needed overtime to beat Auburn (and we didn't) and those extra 14 points were the only reason that average bumped slightly above the 21 points we scored. Either way, a fraction of a point above or below their defense's average isn't how offense performances are judged.
 
Also, since you keep bringing up Alabama, let's take a look at average points per game throughout the league:


Alabama averaged nearly twice what we scored per game. We were ranked 13 out of 14. 12th ranked team (LSU) scored nearly a field goal more than we did and only one team (Vanderbilt) scored less, with most teams averaging close to a touchdown more per game than us. Being ranked 13th out of 14 qualifies as... below average... does it not?

You are switching subjects from the Auburn game to the entire season. Nobody is arguing that our offense wasn't below average for the season as a whole. Everybody expected it to be, especially after Doty went down 3 weeks before the season started. Anybody that thought it would be good was living in a dream.

All in all, I think it turned out far better than anybody expected, especially with the injuries. I think it could have and would have been much worse with the previous staffs since Spurrier.
 
Is reading not your strong suit, angry monkey? Where did I say our offense stunk it up in the Auburn game? I believe the words used were 'below average'? Correct me if I'm wrong... but 21 points is lower than 21.6

To be fair, it was another poster who used the word "stink" or "stunk" about the offense vs Auburn. This poster just gets so worked up over Satterfield that she doesn't really keep posts or posters straight, and lashes out in all directions.
 
Is reading not your strong suit, angry monkey? Where did I say our offense stunk it up in the Auburn game? I believe the words used were 'below average'? Correct me if I'm wrong... but 21 points is lower than 21.6 (which would be rounded up to 22)? If you feel that fact means we 'stunk it up' then that is on you, but don't put words in my mouth.

I notice you keep pounding you chest about Alabama, but won't give the defense the credit it deserves for keeping us in games and regularly putting points on the board or giving us a short field for gimme scores. Let me ask you this:

If you had to rank our offensive, defensive, and special teams units this season from 1st to 3rd. How would you rank them?

My reading is fine. And I didn't put words in your mouth. I never said you said that, just that a poster stated that. My response to them was this.

Scoring 21 points on Auburn is not "stinking it up". In fact, I'd say it was a pretty good job considering our QB situation.

It's like our fans think that unless we score 40 points a game, the offense is garbage. Idiotic.

Then you jumped in, quoting the above post, in disagreement.

Wouldn't 21 points against Auburn be considered 'below average' since opposing teams averaged higher than that against them this season? Also, didn't 7 of those points come after Auburn turned the ball over inside their own 40 by going for it on 4th down against our improved Defense?

To which I showed you the actual season average and how our 21 points was either fractionally above or below Auburn's season average, based on whether or not you count the 14 points Bama scored in overtime. And how unfair it was to judge our offensive performance on fractions of a point either way.

As for ranking, I would put the defense first, special teams second, and the offense third. But given the talent level and injuries alone, nothing about that surprises me now, nor would have surprised me before kickoff of the first game. QB injuries and lack of talent almost always cripple an offense, especially in a league like the SEC.
 
My reading is fine. And I didn't put words in your mouth. I never said you said that, just that a poster stated that.


Incorrect, as usual. You replied specifically to him, quoting him, in post # 78.

You are the poo slinger that was trying to talk down our offensive performance against Auburn over 1/6th of a point from average,

As usual, you confused the poster who said "stunk" and the poster who said "below average" (which is a fact), and lumped them both together in a tirade.
 
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Incorrect, as usual. You replied specifically to him, quoting him, in post # 78.



As usual, you confused the poster who said "stunk" and the poster who said "below average" (which is a fact), and lumped them both together in a tirade.

Dude is a liar and a troll. He'll probably go back and delete or edit posts now to claim it wasn't said. I've started ignoring him for the most part, but do get a kick out of watching him backtrack, talk out of his ass, and start raging at people on a regular basis. There's a saying on the internet that I think we should all remember when dealing with him.

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Dude is a liar and a troll. He'll probably go back and delete or edit posts now to claim it wasn't said. I've started ignoring him for the most part, but do get a kick out of watching him backtrack, talk out of his ass, and start raging at people on a regular basis. There's a saying on the internet that I think we should all remember when dealing with him.

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Agreed, but I have a weakness for spinning her up. Maybe it'll get boring eventually, but I get big laughs out of her incoherent raging.
 
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