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I don't remember Carolina fans ever vandalizing Clemson property

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should have just torn that racists statue down
 
Yep. And fought in the Confederate Army. You got me, because I'm sure there are no slave owners or Confederate soldiers in the USC family tree. One valid charge you can make against him is that he made Clemson University possible.

By the way, any vandalism of either campus is repulsive and infantile. We can agree on that, hopefully.
 
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Yep. And fought in the Confederate Army. You got me, because I'm sure there are no slave owners or Confederate soldiers in the USC family tree. One valid charge you can make against him is that he made Clemson University possible.

By the way, any vandalism of either campus is repulsive and infantile. We can agree on that, hopefully.

yeah but USC isnt named after a slave owner so idk if its relative. Also not sure if they have any statues of slave owners on campus but, I dont recall any.
 
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yeah but USC isnt named after a slave owner so idk if its relative. Also not sure if they have any statues of slave owners on campus but, I dont recall any.

Well the Horseshoe was built by Slaves so you have that going for you....
 
How is that a reach? It is a fact.

Both schools have skeletons in their closet from a dark time fro the south and the nation as a whole.

Okay I guess this is kinda tough to grasp on but, I will try to elaborate.

Slaves building a structureis not equal to or greater than celebrating/naming/constructing a statue with a racist slave owner.

You see one is simply serving a function after all those years, the other is glorifying the legacy of a racist.
 
yeah but USC isnt named after a slave owner so idk if its relative. Also not sure if they have any statues of slave owners on campus but, I dont recall any.

This comparison of racist backgrounds between Clemson and USC is pointless. Both schools have extensive history that is steeped in racism.

The University of South Carolina was built by slaves. Slavery was an integral part of The University until the Civil War. The University actually closed its doors rather than admit black students after the Civil War.

I don't know about specific statues on campus, but it's a fact that practically every building on The Horseshoe at USC is named after a prominent slave owner.

Most, if not all of the founders of USC were racist slave owners and yet, they are memorialized on The Horseshoe to this day.

It's just silly to try to perpetuate the idea that one school is racist and the other is not.

History says otherwise.

Here's a link to a very thorough treatment of the subject actually produced by USC

http://library.sc.edu/digital/slaveryscc/intellectual-founders.html
 
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This comparison of racist backgrounds between Clemson and USC is pointless. Both schools have extensive history that is steeped in racism.

The University of South Carolina was built by slaves. Slavery was an integral part of The University until the Civil War. The University actually closed its doors rather than admit black students after the Civil War.

I don't know about specific statues on campus, but it's a fact that practically every building on The Horseshoe at USC is named after a prominent slave owner.

Most, if not all of the founders of USC were racist slave owners and yet, they are memorialized on The Horseshoe to this day.

It's just silly to try to perpetuate the idea that one school is racist and the other is not.

History says otherwise.

Here's a link to a very thorough treatment of the subject actually produced by USC

http://library.sc.edu/digital/slaveryscc/intellectual-founders.html

No one is denying that there werent racists involved with founding of South Carolina, the name of the buildings as well. But, it is a very far cry from memorializing and naming the whole institution after one.
 
This has turned into a ridiculous argument that nobody can win.

But back to the original premise of the thread, can't we all agree that vandalism of either campus is only done by low lifes that neither of us are proud of?
 
This comparison of racist backgrounds between Clemson and USC is pointless. Both schools have extensive history that is steeped in racism.

The University of South Carolina was built by slaves. Slavery was an integral part of The University until the Civil War. The University actually closed its doors rather than admit black students after the Civil War.

I don't know about specific statues on campus, but it's a fact that practically every building on The Horseshoe at USC is named after a prominent slave owner.

Most, if not all of the founders of USC were racist slave owners and yet, they are memorialized on The Horseshoe to this day.

It's just silly to try to perpetuate the idea that one school is racist and the other is not.

History says otherwise.

Here's a link to a very thorough treatment of the subject actually produced by USC

http://library.sc.edu/digital/slaveryscc/intellectual-founders.html
If worse comes to worst, we can rename every building on campus to satiate the politically correct. I'm curious what name Clemson will choose for their university? You know it's coming so you might as well start thinking of names.
 
This is sadly the natural progression of every single thread lately

-anti-Clemson statement (that should be ignored by trolls on their opponents home board)
- defense of said statement (again home board so rightful)
- Gamecocks resort to 1800's racism to try to win argument (a time when every Southern institution was racist)
- Clemson fans point out that USC has racist history as well (bc all Southern university's/cities do)

This is a very tired narrative from both sides

Clemson fans should shut the F up and not insert themselves into every thread on a Gamecock board that mentions Clemson (before you lump me in this category go find an example first)

Gamecock fans should stop with the libtard reactions in every thread
 
yeah but USC isnt named after a slave owner so idk if its relative. Also not sure if they have any statues of slave owners on campus but, I dont recall any.
No....you were named after a state that seceded from the Union due to slave ownership disguised partially as States Rights. Know you are proud. Truth is, that we would have all been behind our state if we lived during that time........since there were zero South Carolinians that fought in the Union army!
 
Okay I guess this is kinda tough to grasp on but, I will try to elaborate.

Slaves building a structureis not equal to or greater than celebrating/naming/constructing a statue with a racist slave owner.

You see one is simply serving a function after all those years, the other is glorifying the legacy of a racist.
Oh my gosh.......please!
 
This has turned into a ridiculous argument that nobody can win.

But back to the original premise of the thread, can't we all agree that vandalism of either campus is only done by low lifes that neither of us are proud of?
Absolutely!
 
Yep. And fought in the Confederate Army. You got me, because I'm sure there are no slave owners or Confederate soldiers in the USC family tree. One valid charge you can make against him is that he made Clemson University possible.

By the way, any vandalism of either campus is repulsive and infantile. We can agree on that, hopefully.

You're actually defending Tillman? Pitch fork Tillman?

Tillman later recalled that "the leading white men of Edgefield" had decided "to seize the first opportunity that the N......s might offer them to provoke a riot and teach the N......s a lesson" by "having the whites demonstrate their superiority by killing as many of them as was justifiable". Hamburg was their first such opportunity. Butler blamed the deaths on intoxicated factory workers and Irish-Americans who had come across the bridge from Augusta, and over whom he had no control. Tillman later said that the Hamburg massacre was one of his life's proudest memories.
 
If I'm not mistaken, the most recent vandalizing of tater property was by a tater fan. In fact, wasn't it a tater fan that actually chipped their beloved rock? Pretty sure it was.
 
You're actually defending Tillman? Pitch fork Tillman?

Tillman later recalled that "the leading white men of Edgefield" had decided "to seize the first opportunity that the N......s might offer them to provoke a riot and teach the N......s a lesson" by "having the whites demonstrate their superiority by killing as many of them as was justifiable". Hamburg was their first such opportunity. Butler blamed the deaths on intoxicated factory workers and Irish-Americans who had come across the bridge from Augusta, and over whom he had no control. Tillman later said that the Hamburg massacre was one of his life's proudest memories.

BigTomE, There is no way that I was defending Ben Tillman. I was referring to Thomas Green Clemson in my posts and comments. That is his statue on the campus and the one shown in the pictures earlier. There are no statues of Tillman on the Clemson campus.
 
No....you were named after a state that seceded from the Union due to slave ownership disguised partially as States Rights. Know you are proud. Truth is, that we would have all been behind our state if we lived during that time........since there were zero South Carolinians that fought in the Union army!

nice stretch there bubba ;)

John Drayton who founded USC was a slave owner

then it sure is a good thing that it is not John Drayton University then huh?

just admit it your university is named after a person who regarded other human beings as subhuman property.
 
Remember the stallion statue in front of Wardlaw College?

Back in the day some clown was always spray painting it's testicles garnet.
I've always heard this on here but I've looked closely at the horse and it doesn't have a sack. Was it removed at some point?
 
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