I don't remember Carolina fans ever vandalizing Clemson property
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Yep. And fought in the Confederate Army. You got me, because I'm sure there are no slave owners or Confederate soldiers in the USC family tree. One valid charge you can make against him is that he made Clemson University possible.
By the way, any vandalism of either campus is repulsive and infantile. We can agree on that, hopefully.
By the way, any vandalism of either campus is repulsive and infantile. We can agree on that, hopefully.
yeah but USC isnt named after a slave owner so idk if its relative. Also not sure if they have any statues of slave owners on campus but, I dont recall any.
I don't know probably lack of sleep due to my 1.5 year old son still readjusting from a week at my Wife's parents for Thanksgiving making me do stupid stuff.
wow quite a reach there lol nice try though bubba
How is that a reach? It is a fact.
Both schools have skeletons in their closet from a dark time fro the south and the nation as a whole.
Okay I guess this is kinda tough to grasp on but, I will try to elaborate.
Slaves building a structureis not equal to or greater than celebrating/naming/constructing a statue with a racist slave owner.
You see one is simply serving a function after all those years, the other is glorifying the legacy of a racist.
USCBatgirl21
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This comparison of racist backgrounds between Clemson and USC is pointless. Both schools have extensive history that is steeped in racism.
The University of South Carolina was built by slaves. Slavery was an integral part of The University until the Civil War. The University actually closed its doors rather than admit black students after the Civil War.
I don't know about specific statues on campus, but it's a fact that practically every building on The Horseshoe at USC is named after a prominent slave owner.
Most, if not all of the founders of USC were racist slave owners and yet, they are memorialized on The Horseshoe to this day.
It's just silly to try to perpetuate the idea that one school is racist and the other is not.
History says otherwise.
Here's a link to a very thorough treatment of the subject actually produced by USC
http://library.sc.edu/digital/slaveryscc/intellectual-founders.html
Carolina's dark times =
No one is denying that there werent racists involved with founding of South Carolina, the name of the buildings as well. But, it is a very far cry from memorializing and naming the whole institution after one.
No one is denying that there werent racists involved with founding of South Carolina, the name of the buildings as well. But, it is a very far cry from memorializing and naming the whole institution after one.
If worse comes to worst, we can rename every building on campus to satiate the politically correct. I'm curious what name Clemson will choose for their university? You know it's coming so you might as well start thinking of names.
This is sadly the natural progression of every single thread lately
-anti-Clemson statement (that should be ignored by trolls on their opponents home board)
- defense of said statement (again home board so rightful)
- Gamecocks resort to 1800's racism to try to win argument (a time when every Southern institution was racist)
- Clemson fans point out that USC has racist history as well (bc all Southern university's/cities do)
This is a very tired narrative from both sides
Clemson fans should shut the F up and not insert themselves into every thread on a Gamecock board that mentions Clemson (before you lump me in this category go find an example first)
Gamecock fans should stop with the libtard reactions in every thread
-anti-Clemson statement (that should be ignored by trolls on their opponents home board)
- defense of said statement (again home board so rightful)
- Gamecocks resort to 1800's racism to try to win argument (a time when every Southern institution was racist)
- Clemson fans point out that USC has racist history as well (bc all Southern university's/cities do)
This is a very tired narrative from both sides
Clemson fans should shut the F up and not insert themselves into every thread on a Gamecock board that mentions Clemson (before you lump me in this category go find an example first)
Gamecock fans should stop with the libtard reactions in every thread
No....you were named after a state that seceded from the Union due to slave ownership disguised partially as States Rights. Know you are proud. Truth is, that we would have all been behind our state if we lived during that time........since there were zero South Carolinians that fought in the Union army!
When USC was built, pretty much everything in the South was built by slaves. Ben Tillman is the most despicable character in the history of SC.
You're actually defending Tillman? Pitch fork Tillman?
Tillman later recalled that "the leading white men of Edgefield" had decided "to seize the first opportunity that the N......s might offer them to provoke a riot and teach the N......s a lesson" by "having the whites demonstrate their superiority by killing as many of them as was justifiable". Hamburg was their first such opportunity. Butler blamed the deaths on intoxicated factory workers and Irish-Americans who had come across the bridge from Augusta, and over whom he had no control. Tillman later said that the Hamburg massacre was one of his life's proudest memories.
If I'm not mistaken, the most recent vandalizing of tater property was by a tater fan. In fact, wasn't it a tater fan that actually chipped their beloved rock? Pretty sure it was.
except Clemson doesn't even try to keep the skeletons in the closet. It celebrates the skeletons by building statues.
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They didn't try to hide them. They proudly displayed them which is far worse.
This isn't a statute of Tillman but carry on with the "you're racist because of the school you support".
Straight out of the Left's playbook.
BigTomE, There is no way that I was defending Ben Tillman. I was referring to Thomas Green Clemson in my posts and comments. That is his statue on the campus and the one shown in the pictures earlier. There are no statues of Tillman on the Clemson campus.
nice stretch there bubba
then it sure is a good thing that it is not John Drayton University then huh?
just admit it your university is named after a person who regarded other human beings as subhuman property.
I've always heard this on here but I've looked closely at the horse and it doesn't have a sack. Was it removed at some point?
