I just wished Ryan Hilinski could have stuck it out here.
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I don't think Bobo made up his mind to play Hill and bench RH on the first day. I do think there are things we don't know about that situation. But I do think Bobo became entrenched and was never really able to reach RH for some reason.
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definitely didn’t have an O-Line capable of protecting him. Worst O-Line since 1999.
Yep. Anyone thinking the coaches were willing to be fired to do what is best for Collin Hill can’t be reasoned with.
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I think the QB from Georgia that he recruited and had committed fit the style of offense he wanted to run more.
Certainly not taking any blame from Muschamp. But Bobo gave us the worst year of QB management I can recall.
I think you've underestimated the ego of these coaches, especially Muschamp. I think they thought they had a pass because of COVID and weren't going to admit they made a mistake.
Or they were just incompetent and actually thought Collin was the best option at QB.
They were extremely competent at taking money without doing a good job.
Muschamp recruited Hilinski not Hill so that doesn’t make sense.
That could be true. It also could be true that he actually was the better QB.
Good grief.
It was obvious from the opening series against UT that Hill was an upgrade from Hilinski. Hilinski had the better backstory by far hence the gullible fan sentiment, but his onfield cred was in essence one long throw where Edwards got behind the Georgia defense; everything else was dinks and dunks which was seen as “quick release” by Hilinski fans unhappy with Muschamp and Bobo and resentful of Hill. Hilinski alas had ZERO ability to hurt an opponent, and you could tell the team knew it.
In the defense of both Hilinski AND Hill, our receivers group the last several years outside of Edwards has been the most ineffective collection of suckfish ever to appear on a football field. Tom Brady would have looked bad with those guys.
It was obvious from the opening series against UT that Hill was an upgrade from Hilinski. Hilinski had the better backstory by far hence the gullible fan sentiment, but his onfield cred was in essence one long throw where Edwards got behind the Georgia defense; everything else was dinks and dunks which was seen as “quick release” by Hilinski fans unhappy with Muschamp and Bobo and resentful of Hill. Hilinski alas had ZERO ability to hurt an opponent, and you could tell the team knew it.
In the defense of both Hilinski AND Hill, our receivers group the last several years outside of Edwards has been the most ineffective collection of suckfish ever to appear on a football field. Tom Brady would have looked bad with those guys.
You must have missed the play where he gifted UT the game with a pick 6.
We should start referring to interceptions "Collins". That was his specialty.
Who has the school record for most consecutive pass attempts without an interception?
Okay now name hills on field cred play
Certainly not ball protection. Kid threw 6 picks on only 215 pass attempts. Horrendous.
Looking at their performances at USC, At worst RH was as good as CH on game day and had the transformation from freshman to sophomore which tends to be the biggest leap.
versus a 5th year senior who had zero chance of improving over the season
versus a 5th year senior who had zero chance of improving over the season
The net of it is that Beamer recuperate nicely. Doty stayed. He kept Gauthier in the fold, added Brown and has added another quality QB for next year. About the best QB room we have had in a long time.
He took a bunch of sacks and had really poor pocket presence as well
I can actually agree, Brown looks like the best natural passer we have had since Thompson
All you have to do is look at his time at Florida to tell how great Muschamp was at managing his QBs.
It's interesting the love Carolina fans have for a quarterback who has a career record of 4-7, with one of those wins over Charleston Southern and another win, while over #3 Georgia, where he only played one half.
His story is great, and he seems like a great guy. However, as far as quarterbacking skills go, he wasn't very good. This is a guy who caught his own pass and then threw it backwards for a Missouri touchdown! And, even though he didn't have a running game, he did have an All-SEC and NFL receiver in Bryan Edwards.
His story is great, and he seems like a great guy. However, as far as quarterbacking skills go, he wasn't very good. This is a guy who caught his own pass and then threw it backwards for a Missouri touchdown! And, even though he didn't have a running game, he did have an All-SEC and NFL receiver in Bryan Edwards.
I think it's because some realize he was thrown into an essentially impossible situation as a true freshman in his second game on the team. Absolutely no run support whatsoever. No OL protection at all. Yes, he had one good WR to throw to, but with zero threat of a run game and no protection, getting him the ball was mission impossible. Add into that our offense scheme was, at best, helter-skelter. There was no rhyme or reason whatsoever to what McClendon was trying to do on offense. I think he made most of his play calls using a Magic 8 ball.
Ryan has the necessary raw ability. With the proper coaching and with adequate support around him, as any QB needs, he will be a good college QB.
He took his licks as a true freshman and had some bad moments, as would be expected under the circumstances. The pass against App State stands out...but then, it's not exactly his fault we could only average 0.8 yards per carry against them. Dowdle ran 14 times to the tune of 0.6 ypc in the game.
Maybe but Bobo was only here for one season and arguably the best OC Muschamp had here or at UF. We did have a 1000 yard rusher.
You mean the one that bounced off the shoulder pads of the scholarship receiver and that he then got blown up by two UT players while trying to make the tackle? No, I caught that one.
Boy, that's some revisionist history. haha It didn't hit his shoulder pads at all. It went through Shi's hands b/c Hill threw it behind him and he had to reach back on a full run to try catching it.
Oh, I never introduced myself. Hello, Mrs. Hill, my name is Jason.
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Interception play is at 2 minutes in, and yes he threw it behind Shi imho and yes he got crushed by 2 Tenn players on the play
Interception play is at 2 minutes in, and yes he threw it behind Shi imho and yes he got crushed by 2 Tenn players on the play
Yeah, there's no question the pass was behind him. COULD Shi have caught it? Maybe. But he was on a dead sprint in one direction and the pass thrown behind him. He did manage to twist back to get his hands on it but it went through. Even if he didn't touch it, it would have been picked. It didn't go to the defender just b/c it was tipped.
Just b/c the receiver got his hands on it doesn't take Collin off the hook like some have suggested. Bad pass. Game-deciding TD.
And, yes, the poster is correct that Collin did get clobbered trying to make the tackle. Not sure what that has to do with the bad pass though.
I wish nothing but the best for the whole family.
Has nothing to do with who recruited anybody. Muschump brought Bobo and I believe it was a package deal with Hill from the start. And we all know Muschamp calls the shots on offense, even though is really, really, really bad at it.
No way Muschump goes back to Hiliniski after benching him. It would be an admission of failure, and his arrogance never would have let that happen.
bobo/hill was an act of desperation by the fat slob multi-millionaire
we are extremely fortunate to be rid of that hot garbage
the kid and his family deserved better; much better
hoping he lights it up at northwestern
go cocks!
we are extremely fortunate to be rid of that hot garbage
the kid and his family deserved better; much better
hoping he lights it up at northwestern
go cocks!
Just about anyone on IF could call a better offensive game than BMac.
WTH was it with him? He had been in CFB for years but seemed to have learned nothing.
He was as bad as SS' promo of Ward. For some reason, he is still working in FB.
SMH when fatso promoed him even tho he had only called one game. I think it was the Mich bowl game which was supposedly his tryout for his promo and somehow USC lucked out and won. I'll bet fatboy would have promoed him regardless of the outcome of that game.
I hated to see him leave. I thought he was a good quarterback, especiallly for a freshman.
have you seen where all the teams qb situation is ranked? doty, hilinski and bentley's teams are all ranked in the 100's
So you legitimately believe that our last staff risked their jobs just to play Hill over Hilinski even though Hilinski was clearly a better QB? Why? Because Bobo just liked Hill more? I don’t believe a word of it. That is not how coaches make decisions, even bad coaches.
Hill was not a great QB, but he had more experience, and a better understanding of the offense we were trying to run. The coaches thought that because of that he gave us a better chance to win- that is why he started. RH was a real nice guy but never showed an ability to consistently deliver the ball downfield, read a defense or put pressure on a good defense. He can certainly get better with time and experience but last year with a horrible offense around him, I sincerely doubt he would have produced any more than Hill did.
It is all water under the bridge regardless as neither of those guys are here now. I am looking forward to seeing what Doty can do with some game experience under his belt, numerous new targets and a revitalized game plan. I hope he lives up to his potential!
hill was literally the worst QB in the SEC last year, we could not have done any worse giving RH meaningful snaps
the coaches made the initial call and thought they were right, they did the same thing the year before when RH was obviously injured and they refused to adjust.
that’s why stoops is so much a better HC than muschamp, when he sees a QB is not working he will adjust until he has his WR1 running the ball from shotgun
the coaches made the initial call and thought they were right, they did the same thing the year before when RH was obviously injured and they refused to adjust.
that’s why stoops is so much a better HC than muschamp, when he sees a QB is not working he will adjust until he has his WR1 running the ball from shotgun
Collin Hill had a QB rating of 117 versus an all SEC schedule. Hilinski has a 113 qb rating with a game against Charleston Southern.
So objectively, Hilinski could have done worse than Hill.
Freshman vs Redshirt Senior. I meant he couldn’t have done worse regarding his ranking of SEC QBs.
you also included Charleston Southern but neglected to include Clemson - why is that?
RH also had less INTs with three more games and we all know RH was playing injured half the season
