Kyler Murray = Charlie Ward

[HI Cock]

I'd rather see a guy win the Heisman who is at least going to try to play at the next level.

I certainly don't blame Murray. I'd play baseball, too and save my brain. I'd just rather see them choose a guy who will stay in football... so we can at least talk about how overrated he was in college (a la Manziel).

 

[Boom4life]

The heisman has absolutely nothing to do with the next level. It is about the current level.

 

[HI Cock]

The heisman has absolutely nothing to do with the next level. It is about the current level.

I get that, but it's not my point.

 

[Horseshoe 04]

Charlie Ward had sweet handles and could shoot from the outside, never seen KM play hoops

 

[HI Cock]

Charlie Ward had sweet handles and could shoot from the outside, never seen KM play hoops

He still washed out in the NBA, though.

 

[GCDC1959]

He still washed out in the NBA, though.

Define 'washed out'. If it means making millions and taking no hits...I agree, he washed out.

 

[BattleshipTexas]

Murrray will be a lot better baseball player than he would be an NFL player. Running qbs don't work in the NFL. he isn't a pocket passer.

 

[rogue cock]

He still washed out in the NBA, though.

Not sure how you define "washed out"...but he played 12 years in the NBA and was the starting PG for the Knicks for several of those years. He finally retired because of injuries. I would guess many players would love to have a similar career.

 

[ken in sacramento]

Charlie Ward was one of the best athletes of his era.

 

[Captain Weegie]

There are a ton of Heisman trophy winners that do nothing in the NFL...probably a slight majority of them in the last 15-20 years. Generally speaking, the Heisman and NFL don't mix all that well.

Murray put on a show in college this year...and has a Heisman to show for it. Best of luck to the kid in whatever he decides to do next.

 

[phillycock]

Charlie Ward was one of the best athletes of his era.

Good ole Charlie probably had a lot to do with Brad Scott becoming a hot commodity and becoming our Head Coach.

 

[DarkCock]

Not sure how you define "washed out"...but he played 12 years in the NBA and was the starting PG for the Knicks for several of those years. He finally retired because of injuries. I would guess many players would love to have a similar career.

Agreed. Ward had a longer professional career and made more money than most Heisman winners who played (or attempted to play) in the NFL.

 

[Jon Snow]

Not sure how you define "washed out"...but he played 12 years in the NBA and was the starting PG for the Knicks for several of those years. He finally retired because of injuries. I would guess many players would love to have a similar career.

I was going to post this exact same thing, but didn't grunch the post, for once. Ward wasn't a superstar in the NBA, but as you stated, he had a long career, was a starter for some pretty good teams, made a ton of money, and retired in his mid-30s. I'd call that a nice career.