Dang dude...We pulled someone off the coaching staff to play QB.
Luke Doty
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If I remember correctly, Todd Ellis was the #1 HS quarterback in the nation.
Someone with college experience who has played and games against people like oh let’s say Oklahoma. Someone who also had a pretty dang good arm but was not mobile with crappy line play. How many non mobile QBs do we need to ruin in their freshman year by throwing them in with bad protection? (Bentley…Hilinski…Gauthier next?).
That's my recollection also. It's also my recollection that, in his determination to complete passes, if a receiver wasn't open, a defender would do.
Ellis was no Heisman contender, but he was far from awful.
Jason Brown, if he stays, will be the clear cut 2nd string quarterback. Leaving Davis and Doty will battle it out for 3rd String. Doty may need to play Wr if he wishes to see the field next year. He was a complete disaster behind center this season, no one wants to see that again.
Dude I grew up watching the guy. I was being polite when I used the word "awful".
People in this thread are really talking about rattler as if he hasn't played a college game yet. Dude was a highly rated recruit but on the field, his decision making and QB IQ leaves a lot to be desired. He may earn the starting job but if you think Luke is just going to hand it to him y'all crazy af.
But overall, this rattler news has really brought out the unrealistic side of most of our fanbase. Take a chill pill; let them work it out on the practice field and maybe lower your expectations. I'm afraid some of you are addicted to disappointed.
Of course there will be competition, that was the point of my original comment. Luke gets to compete and be in the same room with a former 5 star, #1 ranked QB from his class who in spite of your attempt to rain on the parade, put up crazy numbers at OK. That will make Luke better than this past season's situation, which was being the defacto #1 in a QB room with a FCS transfer, grad asst, true freshman and walk-on.
To define Rattler by his struggles last year at OK (which were relatively minor in comparison to our struggles at QB) is to over-simplify the situation. Which I understand, a lot of people never look past the headlines.
I don't know who talked like he's not played a game or isn't legit, if you're implying it was me, I'm just saying he probably takes the job, but it shouldn't be a forgone conclusion if he hasn't improved against drop 8 coverage, even if from a build talent and arm strength perspective he's the most complete proto-QB we've had. Figuring it out on the field is what I'm talking about.
The only way Rattler is coming here is if he was promised to start. There will be no qb competition in the spring for the spot.
The question is do we have the guts to bench him if he plays poorly.
You seem to know a lot about the inner-workings, why didn't you tell us he'd commit?
Best description of Ellis I've ever seen.
I watched him play after I had already grown up. Dude. And he was far from awful.
I love having Doty on the team. He's everything we want: Wants to be a Gamecock, homegrown, great athlete, versatile as h#ll, good leader, good kid with character, etc.
I think more people should do a Tebow package (freshman year that is)...or one of my all time favorites - Corey Jenkins package (here at USC). I think Doty could do well in that 3rd/4th down situation....and keep the golden arm QB out of harm's way b/c he already has an eye to the NFL...so I think it would go over well chemistry wise.
But- could also have Doty playing some inside slot stuff. You ALWAYS need 2 plus QBs in the SEC every year....every year.
I think more people should do a Tebow package (freshman year that is)...or one of my all time favorites - Corey Jenkins package (here at USC). I think Doty could do well in that 3rd/4th down situation....and keep the golden arm QB out of harm's way b/c he already has an eye to the NFL...so I think it would go over well chemistry wise.
But- could also have Doty playing some inside slot stuff. You ALWAYS need 2 plus QBs in the SEC every year....every year.
Todd did well in the short passing game....his FR year he played well. His longer passes....not so hot.
lol....he isn't. He is talented, and a good overall QB. But is he Trevor Lawrence, Peyton Manning, Tom Brady? Come on.
The numbers are due to Air Raid (or Power Raid).
I wouldn't say awful. He was a lot like Favre: he saw no danger in any pass he wanted to throw.
We were a decent team when Ellis was our QB. When he went down, our team wasn’t even competitive. Ellis threw a lot of interceptions. For some reason, that’s all people want to point out about the guy. But Todd Ellis is one of the best QB’s we’ve had in our history and it’s not close. In fact, he’s probably the best QB prospect we’ve ever gotten here until Spencer Rattler just committed. They didn’t have stars back then, but Ellis would’ve been way up there.
He played well as a Gamecock. He was far from awful. Most would say he was good. But go ahead and $hit on our own…
Ellis has a phenomenal TD to INT rate if you just flipped the stats.
Something to tune of 73 defenders in a 4 year span. They probably lead our team in receiving. LOL
There was a boxer back in the day, Smokin’ Bert Cooper. Smokin’ Bert never won anything of note, but the man could punch like thunder; he unfortunately had a glass jaw as well. In a Smokin’ Bert match, SOMEONE was going down, and in spectacular fashion; as often as not it was Smokin’ Bert himself. Todd Ellis was the football version of Smokin’ Bert Cooper; entertainment at its finest.
Clemson would have loved to have had Brice who transferred out of there and out of Duke.
He is the all-time passing leader at SC. So I will stand by my opinion that he was not "awful".
I didn’t say he was awful. Just threw a lot of interceptions, and they tended to be when we were in position to win the game or make a comeback. I’ll never forget tge Gator bowl vs LSU.
they were told that rattler might be interested, nobody turns that down especially when you need the depth. had nothing to do withy doty's ability. when healthy he wlil be a good one
brown was 3rd string for a reason and he gone anyway because he knows it. yet you dont
thats funny as hell, dak woulda beat florida handily. brown is in no way better than Doty as shown in the mizzoo and clemson games. no other qb had any kind of rushing attack like brown had against those 2 teams
Quite convincing; you should post more often.
If Luke is so good, why did he struggle with Vanderbilt? He was absolutely atrocious against Vandy. It was painful to watch.
We did not see a healthy Luke Doty this year. IMO if he sticks around and plays backup to Rattler next year, we're going to see what he brings to the table the following year, assuming Rattler goes pro.
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