comments. This country is going down the tubes. Just wished he hadn`t apologized. How much have the ones criticizing Brees donated to their community? I believe he gave $5 million. Hope he retires. He is as good of a person as it gets and he nor his family deserve any flack, much less the abuse from the all-knowing Lebron James and others.
My God what is this country coming too - Drew Brees was right on the money with his initial
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Not politically correct to have your own opinion anymore. Society is waiting to chew up and spit out anyone that doesn’t tow the line
Disappointed not b/c I'm a Brees fan or Saints fan, but simply b/c it's perceived as yet another win for the intolerant PC left. It's not really a win, of course, because Brees obviously hasn't done a 180 on his view of the flag in the span of 24 hours. The left just wants to hear the words and that's good enough for them.
I'll never understand why people immediately capitulate and apologize and beg forgiveness from the left in situations like this. Rarely is anyone willing to just hunker down and take some negative media heat for a few days. If Brees had just stuck to his guns, this would have blown over within a week and the left would move to something else.
Remember when Mike Lindell made some comments about the Bible at a press conference with the president and he was instantly and viciously vilified by the left. He didn't waver. Didn't apologize. He was demonized for a while, but it blew over within a few days and now it's forgotten.
The left are just your classic bully. Stand up to them and they'll buzz off. I don't know why people haven't figured this out by now.
Very disheartening. But it is what is.
I'll never understand why people immediately capitulate and apologize and beg forgiveness from the left in situations like this. Rarely is anyone willing to just hunker down and take some negative media heat for a few days. If Brees had just stuck to his guns, this would have blown over within a week and the left would move to something else.
Remember when Mike Lindell made some comments about the Bible at a press conference with the president and he was instantly and viciously vilified by the left. He didn't waver. Didn't apologize. He was demonized for a while, but it blew over within a few days and now it's forgotten.
The left are just your classic bully. Stand up to them and they'll buzz off. I don't know why people haven't figured this out by now.
Very disheartening. But it is what is.
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Saying that kneeling in the presence of the flag disrespects the soldiers is nothing more than subjective opinion with little basis on fact.
Saying that having an opinion that kneeling in the presence of the flag disrespects the soldiers is an ignorant opinion based on little fact, in regards to this protest, is actually based on more fact than the first subjective opinion, but it too is a subjective opinion just like the first.
So for people who support the first subjective opinion, the 2nd subjective opinion is nothing more than "another win for the intolerant PC left", even though all it actually is, is one subjective opinion countering and disputing another subjective opinion.
So if you support one opinion, then that opinion should be allowed to stand, but if you do not support the other opinion, that opinion is wrong and an example of leftist "bullying".
And the ignorance flexes its muscles in the South, once again. For about the 182nd time today alone.....
Saying that having an opinion that kneeling in the presence of the flag disrespects the soldiers is an ignorant opinion based on little fact, in regards to this protest, is actually based on more fact than the first subjective opinion, but it too is a subjective opinion just like the first.
So for people who support the first subjective opinion, the 2nd subjective opinion is nothing more than "another win for the intolerant PC left", even though all it actually is, is one subjective opinion countering and disputing another subjective opinion.
So if you support one opinion, then that opinion should be allowed to stand, but if you do not support the other opinion, that opinion is wrong and an example of leftist "bullying".
And the ignorance flexes its muscles in the South, once again. For about the 182nd time today alone.....
Brees should be able to voice his opinion without the backlash, free speech, unless it is politically correct doesn't exist anymore in this country. really sad. I wish Brees hadn't apologized, he had nothing to apologize for.
Can’t wait for the apology from (10 year former veteran, Martellus Bennett)...where is the outrage from THIS? Please read the whole, disgusting thing...
https://www.google.com/amp/s/syndic...es-white-qbs-media-in-twitter-thread.amp.html
https://www.google.com/amp/s/syndic...es-white-qbs-media-in-twitter-thread.amp.html
I agree with HCC while also disagreeing with Brees.
Personally I think the Kaepernick protests and everything else in a similar vein are beautiful - they are non-violent expressions of conscience and free speech. I will always support non-violent expressions of conscience and free speech regardless whether I agree with them.
In this particular instance, I do not find Kaepernick, et al, to be disrespectful of the flag or armed services or other public service. They're using a high leverage platform to distribute a message that's important to them - that those who believe in America and its ideals should not accept such outcomes. But that's just my opinion and I know many don't share it.
Personally I think the Kaepernick protests and everything else in a similar vein are beautiful - they are non-violent expressions of conscience and free speech. I will always support non-violent expressions of conscience and free speech regardless whether I agree with them.
In this particular instance, I do not find Kaepernick, et al, to be disrespectful of the flag or armed services or other public service. They're using a high leverage platform to distribute a message that's important to them - that those who believe in America and its ideals should not accept such outcomes. But that's just my opinion and I know many don't share it.
That soldiers in many wars and most gave their lives to fight to preserve and protect the freedom of the citizens of the US is subjective is ridiculous. The flag represents the unity of our 50 states under the founding of the original colonies and is a direct representation of the people in the whole country. If you want to do the I hate my country and police with your kneel down do it at a time other than the national anthem or not when the flag is flying. That is my Southern view and not subjective. I love my country and think it is the best in the world and if you don't, you should compare it to the others and see if you like what they do better.
- usc01# you are absolutely correct - his comments are disgusting, obviously racist, but the left media will never call him out, nor will any players or coaches I`m sure. "Liberal" thought used to welcome, peacefully and with respect, all opinions. Now if you don`t agree with the way they think you are a horrible person. Now that sounds like how Communist China, Nazi Germany was.
I don’t have a problem with what Brees said...not that my opinion has any weight. I just thought the timing of it was off. Just not the right time to say something like that.
This was nothing but a long, racist rant from a 10 year pro. Why isn’t he (Martellus Bennett) getting ripped the shreds by EVERYONE because of this??? Does NO ONE on this board have a thought about this other than psycock?? Really??!!
Drew Brees said nothing racist whatsoever and was absolutely vilified by athletes, the media, and the majority of the public all for an opinion. AND he apologized! Again, it might be an opinion that a lot may not agree with; but it wasn’t racist. I. Just. Don’t. Understand. It. Anymore.
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Kneeling down in no way signifies hating my country or the police. If I had the platform that an NFL player does, I too would kneel during the anthem in support of what I think is a noble cause.
At the same time, I love my country, I support our military (though I abhor war), and I support our police and other public servants. If it matters, I guess it depends on your POV, I'm a white male.
It's not fair, or accurate, to paint those who protest as "hating" the US or military or police. Some might. But I bet most don't. Most protest out of love.
At the same time, I love my country, I support our military (though I abhor war), and I support our police and other public servants. If it matters, I guess it depends on your POV, I'm a white male.
It's not fair, or accurate, to paint those who protest as "hating" the US or military or police. Some might. But I bet most don't. Most protest out of love.
So when you're kneeling down while our national anthem is playing and flag is flying and it's because you love our country? Somehow that action doesn't add up.
Why not? Is it not possible to simultaneously love my country and also feel compelled to call attention via protest to things going on in my country that concern me? If I didn't love my country, why would I even bother with protesting?
And why can't you do that in another venue? Why does it have to be in a patriotic setting? You are saying you feel your country is unfair and treats people badly and once again I challenge you to compare it to others and the freedom you get here compared to their socialist, globalist main frame.
Why can't I do it as non-violent free speech and expression in a venue of my choosing? And why do you imply that protest is not patriotic? I don't understand why patriotism precludes protest.
I never claimed any other country to be "better" or "worse" than the United States. There are plenty of good places to live in this world and plenty of bad places to live. But none of the good places, including the United States, are perfect.
Would you say I hate myself because I try to make myself better (skill building, weight loss, relationship management, etc.)? Why does trying to make my country better mean that I hate my country?
I never claimed any other country to be "better" or "worse" than the United States. There are plenty of good places to live in this world and plenty of bad places to live. But none of the good places, including the United States, are perfect.
Would you say I hate myself because I try to make myself better (skill building, weight loss, relationship management, etc.)? Why does trying to make my country better mean that I hate my country?
The fact that some people think it’s a bad thing to say that Hey I’m a proud American and support our Country and Flag is a absolute crying SHAME.
They're hung up on kneeling in front of the flag and think it is a good thing. They just don't get the thousands of lives that died to see that flag still flying and would cry to see someone kneeling in front of it.
You know as well as any of us do that if Drew Brees had said in that interview, "Hey I’m a proud American and support our Country and Flag," and that was it, he still would've been excoriated. Those could've been his exact words and he would still be willfully ignorant...racist...privileged...insensitive...uncaring, because he's not a worker bee in the hive of wokeness.
Kaepernick, who wore socks with police officers as pigs, started some of this. He and others who slam law enforcement as a whole, share the blame for violent attacks vs. people protecting all of us. I`m not talking about the bad apples - they are in every profession and I have no problem with the 4 officers being arrested - that was horrible and they should be prosecuted. Everybody thinks so. Instead of using George Floyd`s death in a constructive way, which would have hopefully united a lot of people, some of them have chosen to tolerate, ignore, even promote unnecessary violence and anarchy, also destroying innocent peoples lives and livelihoods in the process, mostly in black communities. Weak governors, mayors, others have also been complicit in some of it, sad to say.
So if you squat during the national anthem, can that be like sorta kneeling and standing and everybody is happy
It's reasonable to think the answer lies in between. Would some people have still reacted negatively to that? Probably. Would it be fewer people than reacted negatively in actuality? Probably. Would it have been a more prudent way for him to frame his thoughts? Probably.
I think a lot of the "woke" culture is negative. I think a lot of the "woke" culture is positive. I disagree with how "all or nothing" judgments are made on so many parts of our world and our lives nowadays.
I think a lot of the "woke" culture is negative. I think a lot of the "woke" culture is positive. I disagree with how "all or nothing" judgments are made on so many parts of our world and our lives nowadays.
Ladies and Gentleman , please squat as we honor the United States by singing the National Anthem.
You have a right to that opinion . As they have a right to theirs . I love my country as much as anyone but you know what that flag is ... a piece of cloth . Nobody died for that piece of cloth , what they died for was what that flag represents. Defending the weak from Tyranny and evil . Defending those who don’t have a voice and are allowed to stand up . Most folks that died for that flag would have stopped what happened to George Floyd or the gentleman in Georgia . Not one time did CK demean the flag or disrespect any member of the armed service . I live in an area where the majority of the population is active duty military and I can tell you straight up that a very large majority of them strongly supported his protest . These are men and women who have put their lives on the line many times . The same way many of you boycotted the NFL because of the protest , some of them are still boycotting the NFL for Kap being blackballed . I respect your opinion greatly but if you truly believe what that flag stands for you will respect the freedom those folk have to disagree . Again no disrespect
The very people that are mad that Drew Brees is facing some backlash today are the same people that said Kap can kneel if he wants, but it carries consequences. Drew has played on football teams that have been somewhere around 70% Black for at least 20 years now. Any person that is not totally oblivious to the situation that we are currently in should have known how comments like Brees made would land in the Black community right now. Ahmad Arbery is dead, George Floyd is dead, Breonna Taylor dead. So excuse Black people if they don't want to hear about no darn flag right now.
Not the same. Kneeling before god is widely acknowledged as a symbol of respect to god, while standing with your hand over your heart during the national anthem is a symbol of respect for those who sacrificed for our freedom. I think that’s what the biggest problem for many people is that kneeling for the national anthem is perceived as disrespect for those that sacrificed. Regardless of what you are trying to bring attention to, you are showing disrespect for what many people hold sacred.
Actually I think the closer analogy would be if you decided to protest by going into a house of worship and talking during a prayer about your agenda during a prayer while others knelt quietly
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I see it differently. I think they are humbling themselves before the flag to bring attention to something they see in their country.
Over 50 million Americans are not good people, according to Joe Biden.
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I know you meant well but after reading that I would not accuse anyone of ignorance were I you.
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Trump disrespects people, values, morals and decency on a daily basis. I haven't seen any of his supporters take offense. Well, the ones that are left. Many of them have flown the coop these days.
"Ignorance" is not knowing the difference between 'us southerners' who have a backbone...and those who do not. I don't agree with the kneeling as a protest by any color doing it...white or black. Everything labels whites as racists because they just don't agree with this agenda being pushed down the country's throat. This movement has effectively eroded any empathy many had for this cause...whether they truly believed there was a big problem or not. NOBODY likes police brutality against any race, religion or sex....unless you are a total dumb@ss.
I hear a lot of white privilege BS from people who have not walked in our shoes. Has anyone ever been to a predominantly 'white' audience of people (a race, a concert,etc)...and seen a white person get out of control or disorderly? They get rag dolled....because police have to set an example that they're in control, and they don't know what said jack@ss disrupter might be holding. They want to go home to their wife and kids too. But...Police Brutality is real. I don't have an authority complex, but just like I told my three kids...if it is PERCEIVED you are in the wrong and a police officer stops you...shut your mouth, keep your hands out of your pockets and follow his instructions. My kids and I don't have any entitlement, privilege or authority issues....we have minds and do what we are supposed to do.
I am a white. I don't think I know one person who dislikes someone else because the color of their skin....I don't. People ARE pretty big on judging others based off what they see though..and the content of their character. These riots, protests and this 100% commitment to pressuring society and chickensh!t lawmakers to agree/pander with and to this agenda is going to turn out really bad and backfire in the end. This is a form of reparations...and if you want a sleeping giant to be woke up....try to get hard working people to pay TODAY for some BS that ended over 150 years ago. You really will see some muscle flexing....and it will be unapologetic.
I've been hearing a lot of "read a book" BS lately from the left. I would suggest they do the same. If anybody is really concerned about slavery....go do something in the world to stop it. It's happening all over the world RIGHT NOW. It's happening in Africa and in SE Asia. Anybody wanting money for reparations...I suggest they go help over there if they are committed to being such a humanitarian.
good guess. Might be underestimated
You obviously agree with him. Why does his idea bother you and yet you clearly agree? Your hypocrisy?
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