I'll admit, I haven't heard him do it much recently. But early on as a head coach, he used to give his "too long" answers, but they were too long about technical football talk. I think part of the reason he doesn't do that anymore is because someone probably took him aside and said, "You know, people like the folksy andy-griffith approach. the technical talk mostly bores them." Probably happened to Bobby Bowden as well.
My take on the current recruiting tactics
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Let's face it, they were also a play or 2 away from being an 8-4 team.
No doubt he can't coach a lick by himself, that's why he has to surround himself with assistants who can. He would never make it in either division of the SEC.
While I think Datboy is one of the biggest tools around and his wife is a total bimbo, I get sick of our fans screaming the CEO thing. Not one fan has a clue how involved he is or not in game planning and play calling. Total idiotic imo. Show me the proof. People believe and repeat what they read on the Internet, lol. It's "fake news!"
You have made some reasonable points but I think everyone is challenging you because you assume Dabo has no planning/play-calling skills as a coach and you have no proof of that. I compare him to Bobby Bowden. All the charm in the world and great assistants. But Bowden stepped in with his opinions on the most crucial plays. Dabo called or greenlit the fake punt against Oklahoma in the playoffs last year and he signed off on the final play in the National Championship this year. He is the epitome of a "Coach".
I've obviously not stated my point very well. Yes, he's a coach. So no need to argue about that anymore.
Here's the way I see it. Let's say Dabo was caught up in some scandal and got fired. I'm thinking of a Lane Kiffen or Steve Sarkisian type situation. Both of those guys were later given opportunities to "coach" again as coordinators who work hands on and very closely with the players. They both have proven over time that they can "coach" and get in the weeds to be successful. They've proven that on the field. Dabo hasn't. He might be the best in the weeds coach in the country, but he's never proven it.
I just don't see Dabo being given that opportunity. Dabo has proven himself in his current role and would very definitely be given another shot as a head coach somewhere else. He's proven that he can be a great head coach, which involves managing and CEO type responsibilities. All head coaches have those responsibilities, and some have also proven through other roles that they can get in the weeds.
Below I have listed a few notable coaches and every ACC coach. Dabo is the only coach in the ACC to not hold a coordinator position. He may very well be the best head coach of the bunch, but based on experience, he's also probably the one with the least amount of hands on, in the weeds type of coaching experience. This was my only point. He doesn't have that background and he relies on others who do. There's nothing wrong with that, but that's how he's winning. To be clear, that doesn't mean he's not a great head coach. It just means he does it in a different fashion than most.
Nick Saban's background - defensive coordinator
Urban Meyer's background - it's actually similar to Swinney's before his first head coaching job, but he developed his own spread option offense over a period of several years - he developed his offense
Les Miles - offensive coordinator
Bobby Petrino - offensive coordinator
Steve Addazio - offensive coordinator
David Cutcliffe - offensive coordinator
Jimbo Fisher - offensive coordinator
Paul Johnson - offensive coordinator
Mark Richt - offensive coordinator
Larry Fedora - offensive coordinator
Dave Doeren - defensive coordinator
Pat Narduzzi - defensive coordinator
Dino Babers - offensive coordinator
Bronco Mendenhall - defensive coordinator
Justin Fuente - offensive coordinator
Dave Clawson - offensive coordinator
And just to head off at least one Clemson poster who I fully expect an enraged response from, I know Dabo won't be looking for coordinator positions any time soon.
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It was Chad's vision, which is why Chad developed it. I'm not being an ass. I appreciate decent, civil conversation.
This is not unusual. Coaches are competitive guys and I suspect that Saban is more competitive than most. When Bama gets up 3 or more scores, it's over. NOBODY is coming back from that (Auburn is the lone exception that I can think of). You have to ask yourself why that is? It's b/c Saban doesn't take his foot off the gas. The starters stay in until like 5 min in the 4th quarter no matter the score. And they'll stay in the whole game if a shutout is on the line.
The above is not true at Clemson. I've watched Clemson boat race teams in the 1st quarter for the past two years. They get up 21-0 or 17-0 in the 1st quarter, and in come the mass substitutions. Before you know it, it's a 1 score game going into the 4th quarter.
Venables has spoken about it several times and said he never did that before he came to Clemson. Subs played during garbage time only. Only 2 deep guys saw the field for him while the game was in doubt. This is all Dabo for good or bad. So while I have no doubt this has and will cost us games, it’s how Clemson seems to “reload” every year especially on defense. It’s because the new guys that are starting/2 deep ALREADY have a couple hundred snaps in games that matter.
The point is that MOST teams do this. Bama, FSU, Oregon. How many times do you see two or three QBs play in a game (no matter the score)? Clemson played FIVE different QBs against SC State. That’s unheard of. Clemson is just different under Dabo. It has advantages and disadvantages, who knows how it will work out long term.
You are both right. Obviously this is a Chad Morris/Malzon created offense. They did the work to create it. Dabo WANTED an offense like that in his vision for Clemson. This is not mutually exclusive.
I don’t pretend to be an expert on all things football. If I recall my post correctly, the above quote was in context of you guys getting better players not from SC. To expand your brand outside the state to the point where it is appealing to premium athletes, you have to win some big games where people take notice. Clemson did that. In fact that’s where the term “Clemsoning” came from. Clemson would win a big game vs a ranked opponent, then crap the bed the next week against Duke or WF. That sucked BUT, winning that big game drew attention to the program.
USC’s win over Tenn would have fit that bill if Tenn hadn’t faded so badly late in the season.
It was absolutely Chas Morris who installed the offense but he was hired because he and dabo shared the same Vision. It's why his first OC Napier was fired. Dabo wanted a spread offense with a power running game (still working on the power running game) with a dual threat QB. But y'all are right. Dabo has never been an OC and there really is no way to prove one way or the other how much he knows about x's abd o's. That said dabo is very much involved in the game planning.
I have a question about the qb thing, just because I've never seen it addressed. Other than the fact that Trevor Lawrence is the top qb in the country and everyone would want him, how does that fit into Dabo's plans? Do you envision a change to the offense? The current offense can certainly operate with a pro style qb, but it works better with a dual threat guy. Maybe its been addressed. I haven't really looked for any info on this, but was just curious.
Maybe its just a situation where the guy was too good to pass on.
Have you seen Lawrence play? I watched him three times this past season on GPB. The kid has got a set of wheels. He runs quite well for a big QB. Not a Clemson Coach-but doubt that they would call for Lawrence to run that many designed runs. But from what I saw -he can scramble and throw dimes on the run. He definitely is not a stationary QB.
I fine it funny that people underestimate Dabo because of the "aww shucks" type personality he brings. It seems to make people think he is less intelligent. I find it hard to believe that people still think personality and intelligence go hand in hand. You never judge someones intelligence by the way they talk or act. Travis Taylor is a prime example of this. If you dont know who he is watch a video of him. I swear I hear banjos playing in the background when he talks but when you look at his bio you will see he might be one of the smartest people on earth.
I use Taylor as a prime example because im sure that people who dont know who he is tend to underestimate him when they first hear him talk. I believe Dabo is a lot smarter that people give him credit for. Some of you may be right and he may not be an Xs and Os coach. One thing is for sure he had a destination in mind for the program when he took over and a plan to get there.
I use Taylor as a prime example because im sure that people who dont know who he is tend to underestimate him when they first hear him talk. I believe Dabo is a lot smarter that people give him credit for. Some of you may be right and he may not be an Xs and Os coach. One thing is for sure he had a destination in mind for the program when he took over and a plan to get there.
So you are saying he is going to play for and win national championships, I will take that.
I can answer that one. One of the coaches or players after the game, I think it was defensive coach said Dabo called the last play
No Thanks Tater.. One Dabo in SC is enough. We will find another way soon enough and send you guys back under your Rock for another 5 years soon enough...
