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Name,image,likeness closes gap or widens it?

Judson1

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I guess no one knows for sure at this point but here’s a scenario.
I’ll use the Manning kid as an example.
Clemson gets this guy. Then the next recruiting cycle another top QB (I’ll call him Tim )has Clemson as a choice.
Now Tim can go to Clemson and know he has a good chance of playing limited snaps for at least two years.
Or Tim could go somewhere like Columbia or Knoxville and probably start making $ on his NIL right away.

Do you think recruits will think this way? Do schools in cities like Columbia provide more opportunities than a Starkville for example?
 
I don't know if it'll have that much impact overall, but if anything I think it widens it.
 
The schools on top now will just widen their gaps. If this rule/law would of came out right after we won 11 games and was a top 15 program, we would of thrived. It's easier to give and collect money to something that is thriving than something that is hoping to one day thrive.
 
I think NIL will benefit teams in bigger cities more. How many viable businesses with substantial resources are there in “South Bend” Ia for instance? Will some wealthy business owner who is a fan of ND but lives in Miami or LA think that using a player for ND will help him promote his brand?

This is not going to be funded by donations to the schools being funneled to players, this is still going to be driven by decisions around supply and demand and what a business owner feels is good business… Sure- some will use it as a way to help their schools lure recruits. I just think the teams in bigger markets with the bigger/more wealthy fan based will benefit most.

With that said, if I am right- it could hurt clemsun being in cow town with limited resources and a much more regional fan base than a team like Miami for instance… Or even compared to us. Columbia is WAY bigger than cow town, growing fast we have many wealthy business owners who would love a nice tax advantaged way to pay for better players to come here!
 
I think NIL will benefit teams in bigger cities more. How many viable businesses with substantial resources are there in “South Bend” Ia for instance? Will some wealthy business owner who is a fan of ND but lives in Miami or LA think that using a player for ND will help him promote his brand?

This is not going to be funded by donations to the schools being funneled to players, this is still going to be driven by decisions around supply and demand and what a business owner feels is good business… Sure- some will use it as a way to help their schools lure recruits. I just think the teams in bigger markets with the bigger/more wealthy fan based will benefit most.

With that said, if I am right- it could hurt clemsun being in cow town with limited resources and a much more regional fan base than a team like Miami for instance… Or even compared to us. Columbia is WAY bigger than cow town, growing fast we have many wealthy business owners who would love a nice tax advantaged way to pay for better players to come here!

This. Now that you can openly buy recruits it’s just going to come down to which school has the boosters willing to spend the most money.

Yeah Clemson has had a lot of success at QB, but if South Carolina is willing to pay me half a million more than Clemson is willing to pay why would I choose Clemson?
 
I think NIL will benefit teams in bigger cities more. How many viable businesses with substantial resources are there in “South Bend” Ia for instance? Will some wealthy business owner who is a fan of ND but lives in Miami or LA think that using a player for ND will help him promote his brand?

This is not going to be funded by donations to the schools being funneled to players, this is still going to be driven by decisions around supply and demand and what a business owner feels is good business… Sure- some will use it as a way to help their schools lure recruits. I just think the teams in bigger markets with the bigger/more wealthy fan based will benefit most.

With that said, if I am right- it could hurt clemsun being in cow town with limited resources and a much more regional fan base than a team like Miami for instance… Or even compared to us. Columbia is WAY bigger than cow town, growing fast we have many wealthy business owners who would love a nice tax advantaged way to pay for better players to come here!
There may be a point there, However Chicago which is just 90 miles away has one of the biggest alumni bases for ND. This is not going to be a problem for ND.
 
I think NIL will benefit teams in bigger cities more. How many viable businesses with substantial resources are there in “South Bend” Ia for instance? Will some wealthy business owner who is a fan of ND but lives in Miami or LA think that using a player for ND will help him promote his brand?

This is not going to be funded by donations to the schools being funneled to players, this is still going to be driven by decisions around supply and demand and what a business owner feels is good business… Sure- some will use it as a way to help their schools lure recruits. I just think the teams in bigger markets with the bigger/more wealthy fan based will benefit most.

With that said, if I am right- it could hurt clemsun being in cow town with limited resources and a much more regional fan base than a team like Miami for instance… Or even compared to us. Columbia is WAY bigger than cow town, growing fast we have many wealthy business owners who would love a nice tax advantaged way to pay for better players to come here!
Big cities have more competition. Do you want a Chicago Bears QB promoting a product or a player from Nothwestern?

It benefits teams in relatively big markets that don't have professional sports teams. For example. Ohio State in Columbus or even Vandy in Nashville. They do have hockey but...
 
Big cities have more competition. Do you want a Chicago Bears QB promoting a product or a player from Nothwestern?

It benefits teams in relatively big markets that don't have professional sports teams. For example. Ohio State in Columbus or even Vandy in Nashville. They do have hockey but...

If you’re a ND fan you probably want the ND QB more than the Bears QB.
 
Teams that have successful marketing players will attract more the best players. We better get our game on in terms if helping kids market themselves. I assume that's allowed.
 
Teams that have successful marketing players will attract more the best players. We better get our game on in terms if helping kids market themselves. I assume that's allowed..
My gut tells me the NCAA is not going to relinquish the absolute power to claim certain actions are “impermissible” even under a new code of ethics. If there’s one thing they enjoy, it’s flexing their muscle and lowering the boom on the little guy just to prove to everyone they’re still in charge.
 
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like others said it’s going to benefit larger cities without pro sports. Most of my friends from up north don’t care about college football. What’s going to really matter is Texas. Back room deal where a oil tycoon promises that when you sign with Texas a and M we promise to buy a million Jerseys of your number and you get the profit for your likeness.
 
like others said it’s going to benefit larger cities without pro sports. Most of my friends from up north don’t care about college football. What’s going to really matter is Texas. Back room deal where a oil tycoon promises that when you sign with Texas a and M we promise to buy a million Jerseys of your number and you get the profit for your likeness.
I could see that happening also.
 
I think water will find its level. By that I mean, in the end only the stars at each school will get paid and some others will get some scraps - just like it should be as dictated by the market. Will their be some impropriety to get a recruit or three to a big school? Absolutely. But guess what, that already happens.

NIL will end up being a good thing because it will allow the kids that should be playing for money but can't (due to the disgusting NFL and NBA eligibility rules), to make some cash.
 
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People are missing the point. There are boosters giving money now that is getting funneled to players and these boosters get zero marketing benefit from it. They give it because they want to win. This just keeps it from being under the table now.
This. We obviously sucked at cheating. Surely, we have to do better when you can do it without fear of repercussions. Our fans give a bunch of money to the Gamecock Club surely they will be willing to shift some of that money to the hands of recruits.
 
Yep. But we won't have the cash flow to compete with the rich schools. That being said, I don't think Clemson will either.

And even if there are some type of rules to limit how much a player gets, it's will now be basically unenforceable. No way anybody will be able to check how much they get and who they are getting it from. They can't even do it now when nobody is supposed to be paid anything.

Amateurism is dead.
 
And don't be surprised if this doesn't affect women's basketball too. There are a handful of schools that really care about it, and they will go after many of the top recruits.

We may never win another NC in anything again. Even if we develop some players into stars, the transfer rules will allow them to go somewhere else for more money.

Nothing about this is good for us.
 
Nah. Some will do ok, but the big money will be for the guys that can bring the wins in the sports like football and basketball. This won't be about marketing value. This will be about funneling as much money to the top players in order to win.
 
Neither. It doesn't close, or widen, the gap. Things have just gotten out of hand on the recruiting trail. And much easier to cover ones tracks than it used to be. This is simply making legal what has been going on for decades. They have just wrap it up in a named package. Car dealers and other businesses that are "friends of the program" will love it. Gives them a tax advantage as it is just another employee.
 
Well that didn't take long

D'Eriq King Miami quarterback just signed a deal yesterday, value of deal will equal 20k. Then created his own website selling signed memorabilia.
Fasten your seatbelts, this is going to be crazy ride.
 
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This whole thing will be an unmitigated disaster. The teams with access to the most money will win. No other way to look at it....
That is already the case- teams who have big budgets recruit better and win more often… but I don’t see how players being able to do autograph signings or sign endorsement deals correlates as an advantage because of the spending ability of the school they play for? Can you break down that thinking for me please? Not arguing, just asking for clarification.
 
I think you are looking at this situation as if all of the teams are going to play by the rules. The NCAA has just made it possible for unscrupulous individuals to funnel money to top players without fear of retribution. We all know that this has been going on forever but now it will be out in the open. People will come up with innovative ways to provide endorsements. Recruits will simply hold out for the best deals. MONEY TALKS! Pretty simple really.
 
I think it tremendously benefit those teams that meet the hat test. What I mean by that is those schools where you walk into a sports apparel store anywhere in the country and there’s a good chance you”ll see their hat for sale in it. Schools like ND, Michigan, and Miami and to some degree UNC and Texas come to mind.
 
Please correct me if I'm wrong.

With this new rule, there is no limit on what a private business or individual can pay a player to "endorse" something. Is that right?

But the NCAA is hoping that Congress will step in with a nationally uniform set of rules, including how much a player can make. Is that right?
 
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