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One family uses pool to save houses in cali

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Dad’s plan better than the entire gov of California. Generator, pool pump, fire hose. Done. Questions? Hire this guy to run the entire state. Fire the rest
 
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Dad’s plan better than the entire gov of California. Generator, pool pump, fire hose. Done. Questions? Hire this guy to run the entire state. Fire the rest
Everyone of these homes should’ve been equipped with this simple setup. Could’ve done it easily for 2k or so. A very important feature to add on for a 3 million dollar and up home built in a fire hazard area. Especially since they all have pools already. Of course the government couldn’t burn em down then so they couldn’t allow that.
 
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Dad’s plan better than the entire gov of California. Generator, pool pump, fire hose. Done. Questions? Hire this guy to run the entire state. Fire the rest

I have a smaller version of this at my home and anyone with a pool can set up their own pretty easily- but it's going to have somewhat limited effectiveness. It's just a matter of using your waste hose. But, this would be a last resort for sure and can be quite dangerous.

Even in this situation, this guy admits he was lucky.

It's unlikely some people, especially some I have seen in news reports, would be able to do much of anything even with such equipment, especially with physical limitations and stronger winds.
 
I have a smaller version of this at my home and anyone with a pool can set up their own pretty easily- but it's going to have somewhat limited effectiveness. It's just a matter of using your waste hose. But, this would be a last resort for sure and can be quite dangerous.

Even in this situation, this guy admits he was lucky.

It's unlikely some people, especially some I have seen in news reports, would be able to do much of anything even with such equipment, especially with physical limitations and stronger winds.
The only limitations are what you’ve designed and engineered it to do. Depending on pump and generator size you can have it setup to do the same as a fire truck or hydrant. Equipped with a pressure regulator you have full control of pressure depending upon your needs. All homes with pools in those hills should be equipped with this. Its a no brainer
 
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The only limitations are what you’ve designed and engineered it to do. Depending on pump and generator size you can have it setup to do the same as a fire truck or hydrant. Equipped with a pressure regulator you have full control of pressure depending upon your needs. All homes with pools in those hills should be equipped with this. Its a no brainer
... especially considering you cant trust the govt to supply you with basic needs. That is the takeaway from this if nothing else. Clearly having your own personal reservoir is the way to go. And you would think having a large generator in California is a necessity given the restrictions the govt puts on the electrical grid favoring rolling blackouts and the likes.
 
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... especially considering you cant trust the govt to supply you with basic needs. That is the takeaway from this if nothing else. Clearly having your own personal reservoir is the way to go. And you would think having a large generator in California is a necessity given the restrictions the govt puts on the electrical grid favoring rolling blackouts and the likes.
All absolute facts. Self reliance is a must
 
The only limitations are what you’ve designed and engineered it to do. Depending on pump and generator size you can have it setup to do the same as a fire truck or hydrant. Equipped with a pressure regulator you have full control of pressure depending upon your needs. All homes with pools in those hills should be equipped with this. Its a no brainer

It's not a bad idea but it's not a solution for everyone. If you are 73 years old and have limited mobility, this isn't going to help you and could be a death sentence. If you have a family you are trying to evacuate to safety, you aren't going to have time to run outside to the pool pump and get it on and started and start trying to fight a fire.

I was listening to one homeowner out there saying she was in her home and the fire department folks outside had just told her she was ok for now because the wind wasn't blowing in their direction. All of a sudden, the firefighters were beating on her door telling her to get out and that wind has shifted and she had seconds to get out. She was trying to get her children out of the house, not run out to the pool pump to fight a house fire.

Lots of people have died trying to fight a housefire before as a result of various factors, including collapsing structures. Firefighters die fighing these housefires and trying to stop them.

That's why the firefighters tell people to get the hell out and don't try to fight these things- because even the firefighters can't fight some of it because of the size and quickness.

That's why I said, it could possibly work in some limited situations.

When the wind is blowing 85 mph and your neighbor's house is on fire and an 85 mph wind is blowing into your house, it's not going to help you.

I think we have some folks here that are assuming how they'd handle such when they have no idea how to remotely relate to trying to even walk outside in hurricane force winds- not to mention trying to stop a fire when the wind is blowing over hurricane strength. Not a once of us can relate to such a thing. We have no idea.
 
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It's not a bad idea but it's not a solution for everyone. If you are 73 years old and have limited mobility, this isn't going to help you and could be a death sentence. If you have a family you are trying to evacuate to safety, you aren't going to have time to run outside to the pool pump and get it on and started and start trying to fight a fire.

I was listening to one homeowner out there saying she was in her home and the fire department folks outside had just told her she was ok for now because the wind wasn't blowing in their direction. All of a sudden, the firefighters were beating on her door telling her to get out and that wind has shifted and she had seconds to get out. She was trying to get her children out of the house, not run out to the pool pump to fight a house fire.

Lots of people have died trying to fight a housefire before as a result of various factors, including collapsing structures. Firefighters die fighing these housefires and trying to stop them.

That's why the firefighters tell people to get the hell out and don't try to fight these things- because even the firefighters can't fight some of it because of the size and quickness.

That's why I said, it could possibly work in some limited situations.

When the wind is blowing 85 mph and your neighbor's house is on fire and an 85 mph wind is blowing into your house, it's not going to help you.

I think we have some folks here that are assuming how they'd handle such when they have no idea how to remotely relate to trying to even walk outside in hurricane force winds- not to mention trying to stop a fire when the wind is blowing over hurricane strength. Not a once of us can relate to such a thing. We have no idea.
The firehose is hanging on the wall, one on the front, one on the back. They are plumbed into the bottom return of the pool. The switch beside the hose reel turns the pumps on or off, the regular below manages the pressure. This system is installed when the pool is being built and integrated into the homes fire safety system along with the irrigation system that’s setup to keep the entire home watered down and safe from fire in case you just want to turn the home sprinkler system on and leave. It’s quite simple.
 
The firehose is hanging on the wall, one on the front, one on the back. They are plumbed into the bottom return of the pool. The switch beside the hose reel turns the pumps on or off, the regular below manages the pressure. This system is installed when the pool is being built and integrated into the homes fire safety system along with the irrigation system that’s setup to keep the entire home watered down and safe from fire in case you just want to turn the home sprinkler system on and leave. It’s quite simple.

The average pool pump pumps out 40-80 gallons of water a minute- handled by a homeowner. In the California case, trying to put out a fire with 80 mph winds would have resulted in deaths of most homeowners given not only their houses- but the entire neighborhoods were burnt down- that is if the homeowner was even physically capable of trying to stand up to fight a raging fire and avoid falling trees and structures in 80mph winds.

An actual fireman's firehose pumps around 250 gallons a minute handled by trained personnel. A firetruck in front of a house can pump out 1500 gallons a minute.
 
The average pool pump pumps out 40-80 gallons of water a minute- handled by a homeowner. In the California case, trying to put out a fire with 80 mph winds would have resulted in deaths of most homeowners given not only their houses- but the entire neighborhoods were burnt down- that is if the homeowner was even physically capable of trying to stand up to fight a raging fire and avoid falling trees and structures in 80mph winds.

An actual fireman's firehose pumps around 250 gallons a minute handled by trained personnel. A firetruck in front of a house can pump out 1500 gallons a minute.
And yet a retired 66 yo saved his home with a water hose. All you need is coverage on front and back of house. Those lots are tiny. A pool pump will work just fine but if I wanted a fire truck pump I could buy it. Not a problem. Personally Id just setup a sprinkler system to keep my home wet roof down and all sides for 2-3 days. Plenty of water in pool for that. Cheap and efficient.
 
And yet a retired 66 yo saved his home with a water hose. All you need is coverage on front and back of house. Those lots are tiny. A pool pump will work just fine but if I wanted a fire truck pump I could buy it. Not a problem. Personally Id just setup a sprinkler system to keep my home wet roof down and all sides for 2-3 days. Plenty of water in pool for that. Cheap and efficient.

a man who said repeatedly that he was "lucky."

I am glad it worked for him. It's not a recipe for saving your house from fires in 85 mph winds and plenty of homeowner's simply can't handle such a situation.

For those that can, that's great.
 
a man who said repeatedly that he was "lucky."

I am glad it worked for him. It's not a recipe for saving your house from fires in 85 mph winds and plenty of homeowner's simply can't handle such a situation.

For those that can, that's great.
Hey, it’s the only choice the poor bastards have out there. Government is there to make sure they burn. Only you can make a difference. Smokey knew 40 years ago.
 
Hey, it’s the only choice the poor bastards have out there. Government is there to make sure they burn. Only you can make a difference. Smokey knew 40 years ago.

it's not. But it's an option.

No, government isn't there to make "sure they burn" LOL

you fools are nuts. But it's fun to read.
 
Common yard sprinklers used on roof saved another home and several directly below. Created a fire break. Another creative civilian. Well done!
Wow that sounds like something that can be done without some fancy degree that would allow the holder to declare himself superior to the uneducated in the subject matter at hand regardless of experience.
 
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Wow that sounds like something that can be done without some fancy degree that would allow the holder to declare himself superior to the uneducated in the subject matter at hand regardless of experience.

It's wild that you guys on a message board think you came up with some miracle solution that all the firefighters and thousands of people who lost their home couldn't...

It's amazing how simple you guys think life is...
 
It's wild that you guys on a message board think you came up with some miracle solution that all the firefighters and thousands of people who lost their home couldn't...

It's amazing how simple you guys think life is...
Get ready for the federal govt to come in and bail out the Dems in this bluest of states. And expect those funds to come with strings attached and demanding necessary policy reversals even us dumb internet posters can see. Common sense is coming. Yes... simple as that. I get that it may look difficult to you though.
 
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It's wild that you guys on a message board think you came up with some miracle solution that all the firefighters and thousands of people who lost their home couldn't...

It's amazing how simple you guys think life is...
Apparently some on this board and a couple in the hills did come up with this solution and it worked flawlessly. Haven’t heard of any gov firefighters or phd’s doing a thing but asking for more money. Funny how that works huh.
 
Get ready for the federal govt to come in and bail out the Dems in this bluest of states. And expect those funds to come with strings attached and demanding necessary policy reversals even us dumb internet posters can see. Common sense is coming. Yes... simple as that. I get that it may look difficult to you though.

I'm not sure how raising the debt ceiling is a "common sense" approach...
 
Apparently some on this board and a couple in the hills did come up with this solution and it worked flawlessly. Haven’t heard of any gov firefighters or phd’s doing a thing but asking for more money. Funny how that works huh.

The lack of hubris to realize you're only hearing the success stories and not the ones who failed.
 
Get ready for the federal govt to come in and bail out the Dems in this bluest of states. And expect those funds to come with strings attached and demanding necessary policy reversals even us dumb internet posters can see. Common sense is coming. Yes... simple as that. I get that it may look difficult to you though.

It's the opposite.

South Carolina is the 6th most federal dependent state in terms of residents dependent on money from the federal government.

California is 46th.

South Carolina state government is the 33rd most dependent on federal revenue. California's is 48th.

The average rank for red states is 20th. The average rank for blue states is 30th.

South Carolina is much more reliant on tax money from the federal government than is California.
 
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It's wild that you guys on a message board think you came up with some miracle solution that all the firefighters and thousands of people who lost their home couldn't...

It's amazing how simple you guys think life is...

if you saw some of the guys on this message board in person, you'd realize they are very lucky to be able to get out of their vehicles in under 30 seconds.
 
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It's the opposite.

South Carolina is the 6th most federal dependent state in terms of residents dependent on money from the federal government.

California is 46th.

South Carolina state government is the 33rd most dependent on federal revenue. California's is 48th.

The average rank for red states is 20th. The average rank for blue states is 30th.

South Carolina is much more reliant on tax money from the federal government than is California.
That has nothing to do with the upcoming bailouts coming. All said and done, the cost will be astronomical. What state paid what when is inconsequential. Bend it how you want. The Federal govt will sent money to California. Money I paid in taxes will be going to California. Spare me the 'but, but, but" stuff. It is irrelevant.
 
Smart investment it is not. But it is an admirable attempt to avoid seeing our tax dollars wasted and at the same time hold the untrustworthy accountable.

Why didn't aid for hurricane hit areas in Florida and Louisiana demand that no one can build yet again on the beach or in areas prone to severe flooding so we aren't helping someone build yet another house that will fall apart in the next hurricane?

Republicans in Florida and Louisiana and along the coast of Texas would never agree to it.

We just got finished bailing out Texas for their winter storm disaster that killed 246 people in Texas when their energy grid wasn't prepared.

Sounds like that needs to happen the next time Democrats control the House- no federal aid for Florida, Louisiana and Texas.
 
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That has nothing to do with the upcoming bailouts coming. All said and done, the cost will be astronomical. What state paid what when is inconsequential. Bend it how you want. The Federal govt will sent money to California. Money I paid in taxes will be going to California. Spare me the 'but, but, but" stuff. It is irrelevant.

Just like money I pay went to Florida, and Texas and Louisiana- states that keep letting people build in flood areas and coastal areas that keep being destroyed by hurricanes.

Just like money went to Texas for a winter storm- and to prop up an energy grid that they knew wasn't prepared.

Tit for tat is an interesting game. There is always a "yeah, but what about this situation" that exposes the hypocrisy of certain posters.
 
Just like money I pay went to Florida, and Texas and Louisiana- states that keep letting people build in flood areas and coastal areas that keep being destroyed by hurricanes.

Just like money went to Texas for a winter storm- and to prop up an energy grid that they knew wasn't prepared.

Tit for tat is an interesting game. There is always a "yeah, but what about this situation" that exposes the hypocrisy of certain posters.
Again it has nothing to do with the upcoming bailout. I dont recall there being a need to demand policy changes for any of those disasters. Oh yeah, that's right, those were red states where common sense is more prevalent and they actually have and execute a thing we call 'plans' ahead of and after such events. That said, I dont think it's fair to compare those disasters with the current fires in California.... where common sense leadership is missing and all.
 
That has nothing to do with the upcoming bailouts coming. All said and done, the cost will be astronomical. What state paid what when is inconsequential. Bend it how you want. The Federal govt will sent money to California. Money I paid in taxes will be going to California. Spare me the 'but, but, but" stuff. It is irrelevant.
Wall it up and make cali a prison state for the illegal roundup. perfect holding area. They caused it use em to fix it. After all they volunteered to be a sanctuary state.
 
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That has nothing to do with the upcoming bailouts coming. All said and done, the cost will be astronomical. What state paid what when is inconsequential. Bend it how you want. The Federal govt will sent money to California. Money I paid in taxes will be going to California. Spare me the 'but, but, but" stuff. It is irrelevant.

It's pretty damn hypocritical of anyone in South Carolina or a state that is a net debtor to the feds whining like 2 year old children about a state that pays more in federal taxes than it receives in benefits in getting disaster money.

Hypocrite.
 
Again it has nothing to do with the upcoming bailout. I dont recall there being a need to demand policy changes for any of those disasters. Oh yeah, that's right, those were red states where common sense is more prevalent and they actually have and execute a thing we call 'plans' ahead of and after such events. That said, I dont think it's fair to compare those disasters with the current fires in California.... where common sense leadership is missing and all.

You've never read articles from people saying that it's time to stop allowing people to build in areas that are prone to flooding in hurricanes or along coastal areas?

Are you stuck in an elevator with no access to anything?

Florida, Louisiana and Texas are red states and famous for allowing people to build in areas that are repeatedly damaged by hurricanes and I've never seen a Democrat yet prevent them from getting aid for those areas- even though right wing politicians keep letting them build where ever they hell they want- with their hands out as soon as there is a hurricane or flooding.

Hypocrite.
 
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Again it has nothing to do with the upcoming bailout. I dont recall there being a need to demand policy changes for any of those disasters. Oh yeah, that's right, those were red states where common sense is more prevalent and they actually have and execute a thing we call 'plans' ahead of and after such events. That said, I dont think it's fair to compare those disasters with the current fires in California.... where common sense leadership is missing and all.

Why would those states have needed a bail out if they were prepared?
 
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