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When a player opts out of the bowl game, does he exit the program? No scholarship, athletic dorm, training table or access to training facilités for spring semester?
 
Most opt out to leave the program and train / prepare for NFL. If you impose this rule, all you’d get is players pretending to be injured, or just simply waiting until semester is over to announce they are opting out.

You want to treat your former players right to begin with. Any school would be foolish to not allow their players to use facilities.
 
It’s disgusting but it is what it is. Watching the PSU game and they said it was necessary to incentivize playing in the bowl game to curb the opt-outs. Say what? Kids today are just pu**ies is what it boils down to.
 
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Somewhere people came up with the thought that we all want to see these players play rather than see the schools play. We love the players because they go to the school. Fact is, we’d hardly know these guys, much less care for them if they didn’t get to use the schools platform.

I believe NCAA Free Agency, which is what we have, will ruin college football as we know it. Majority of fans called for it just like they wanted the NCAA Football game to stop. Now everyone misses it, and they’ll miss the old college football too. It’ll still be decent, it’ll still make tons of $$…but the good ole days are over. We are now watching minor-league football.
 
It’s disgusting but it is what it is. Watching the PSU game and they said it was necessary to incentivize playing in the bowl game to curb the opt-outs. Say what? Kids today are just pu**ies is what it boils down to.
Somewhere people came up with the thought that we all want to see these players play rather than see the schools play. We love the players because they go to the school. Fact is, we’d hardly know these guys, much less care for them if they didn’t get to use the schools platform.

I believe NCAA Free Agency, which is what we have, will ruin college football as we know it. Majority of fans called for it just like they wanted the NCAA Football game to stop. Now everyone misses it, and they’ll miss the old college football too. It’ll still be decent, it’ll still make tons of $$…but the good ole days are over. We are now watching minor-league football.
This, and this.
 
Somewhere people came up with the thought that we all want to see these players play rather than see the schools play. We love the players because they go to the school. Fact is, we’d hardly know these guys, much less care for them if they didn’t get to use the schools platform.

I believe NCAA Free Agency, which is what we have, will ruin college football as we know it. Majority of fans called for it just like they wanted the NCAA Football game to stop. Now everyone misses it, and they’ll miss the old college football too. It’ll still be decent, it’ll still make tons of $$…but the good ole days are over. We are now watching minor-league football.
Yep. There’s no going back. There are a lot of guilty parties. Coaches with their salaries approaching $10 million. ESPN. There’s blame to spread around but the game is fundamentally changing and can never be repaired.
 
Yep. There’s no going back. There are a lot of guilty parties. Coaches with their salaries approaching $10 million. ESPN. There’s blame to spread around but the game is fundamentally changing and can never be repaired.
And the fans for getting behind it. I don’t like Dabo at all…but I give him credit for being one of the few to speak out against it. For many, that’s not a good look to recruits. The fans will step up and play right along…because they have to. But make no mistake…it never goes this route if they didn’t realize the fans would pony up.
 
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Most opt out to leave the program and train / prepare for NFL. If you impose this rule, all you’d get is players pretending to be injured, or just simply waiting until semester is over to announce they are opting out.

You want to treat your former players right to begin with. Any school would be foolish to not allow their players to use facilities.
That's why Lou didn't let "injured" players travel to bowl games. I remember some stink about Kalimba Edwards or some other defensive player not traveling to the bowl game. It's kind of a bad deal for legitimately hurt players, but I get why Holtz had the policy.
 
That's why Lou didn't let "injured" players travel to bowl games. I remember some stink about Kalimba Edwards or some other defensive player not traveling to the bowl game. It's kind of a bad deal for legitimately hurt players, but I get why Holtz had the policy.
At the same time, it was widely felt among our players in multiple sports during the 90’s and early 2000’s that our university didn’t do a good job of keeping relations with former players. Spurrier recognized it and worked hard to reach out and reconnect. We saw the same in basketball…having to repair relationships with our greatest era of basketball players just recently.

Bowl games are different than a road game where an injured player wouldn’t travel. It’s a reward. Many of these players don’t see it as a reward. I’m al for letting injured players travel to Bowl Games as they had a lot to do with being there in many cases. And no coach would be wise to question whether a player is faking an injury in today’s world.
 
That's why Lou didn't let "injured" players travel to bowl games. I remember some stink about Kalimba Edwards or some other defensive player not traveling to the bowl game. It's kind of a bad deal for legitimately hurt players, but I get why Holtz had the policy.
I remember this. Edward's hated Lou and the University of SC for this reason.

I could see Edward's point. We wouldn't have been in the Bowl without Edward's consistent play.

I still remember Edward's running down a RB who was near to scoring about the Goal Line from a line of scrimmage near midfield.

Loved that kid. What a play. Edward's was a Man Child
 
At the same time, it was widely felt among our players in multiple sports during the 90’s and early 2000’s that our university didn’t do a good job of keeping relations with former players. Spurrier recognized it and worked hard to reach out and reconnect. We saw the same in basketball…having to repair relationships with our greatest era of basketball players just recently.

Bowl games are different than a road game where an injured player wouldn’t travel. It’s a reward. Many of these players don’t see it as a reward. I’m al for letting injured players travel to Bowl Games as they had a lot to do with being there in many cases. And no coach would be wise to question whether a player is faking an injury in today’s world.
Lou made it a blanket policy to avoid questioning one player in particular.
 
I remember this. Edward's hated Lou and the University of SC for this reason.

I could see Edward's point. We wouldn't have been in the Bowl without Edward's consistent play.

I still remember Edward's running down a RB who was near to scoring about the Goal Line from a line of scrimmage near midfield.

Loved that kid. What a play. Edward's was a Man Child
Didn't Lou also not tell Edwards personally that he wasn't going? Didn't Lou just announce it to the media like he did when he took over the offense from Skip?

I had a couple of classes with Edwards way back in the day. He was a super nice guy!
 
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When a player opts out of the bowl game, does he exit the program? No scholarship, athletic dorm, training table or access to training facilités for spring semester?
The really good players that opt-out don’t need the school facilities anymore. The top agents have training facilities and lodging set up for their clients to train together. Once they opt-out, most drop out of school and are no longer subject to NCAA rules regarding NIL and the like, The agent basically invests in them for 3 months so that the player can get drafted as high as possible.
 
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The really good players that opt-out don’t need the school facilities anymore. The top agents have training facilities and lodging set up for their clients to train together. Once they opt-out, most drop out of school and are no longer subject to NCAA rules regarding NIL and the like, The agent basically invests in them for 3 months so that the player can get drafted as high as possible.
Right. I don't think a player who is focused on spending his time preparing for an NFL career needs to live in a dorm or work out in a university weight room. It's not like he's going to class at that point either. If he really has NFL potential, somebody will be willing to front him everything he needs.

When you say you are done with the program, you should be done with the program. A clean break. It's not punishment and it's not done in anger on either side. But there is no logic whatsoever in keeping a player in the program once said player has said he's ready to move on. Just like in the business world when a manager gives his 2 weeks notice, he exits the building that day. It's just business.
 
It’s disgusting but it is what it is. Watching the PSU game and they said it was necessary to incentivize playing in the bowl game to curb the opt-outs. Say what? Kids today are just pu**ies is what it boils down to.
For F11cksake, this whole country is about making money!

Don't EVER complain about KIDS making a money decision when it comes to playing in a career-meaningless game for them. Either that, or find a way to make it not about the money.

JayZues, some of you folks who want the whole focus of the country to be about what you can get for yourselves while you complain about kids who decide how to best make money for themselves. What would you tell your own son or daughter!?!
 
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Once they opt-out, most drop out of school
I don't think this is accurate. Most opt out near the bowl game and the school semester is effectively over. Many plan on coming back to finish their degrees later. The schools encourage them to take finals to keep academic rates high. Now they don't enroll the next semester (Spring) if that is what you mean by dropping out, but I don't think most drop mid-Fall semester.
 
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