Being serious on this. Apply wage and environmental parity tariffs. Companies went to China for the cheap labor and they can pollute all they want. Have you seen the pictures of all the toxic stuff dumped in the rivers and on the ground? Heck sometimes, airliners have to do instrument landings due to all the dust.
OT: How to punish China?
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I really hope this whole fiasco shows the world that you simply can't trust a single thing China says. My fear is that once things subside, everything will just go back to normal.
Didn’t read yet but electric cars last a lot longer and you don’t need gas stations.
But the electricity for those cars is generated by coal fired plants. I saw a charging station that was powered by a generator. Talk about irony. Hell, even the wonderful green wind turbines use more materials and energy to make, install and maintain them than they will ever produce.
Cheaper to remove pollutants at the generation plant than in each vehicle. Current wind turbines kill protected species birds, BTW. Not irony so much as a red herring.
A lot of that is true. But....
About 30-35% of the cost of goods is typically labor. The hourly wage in China is $3.60. The average hourly wage here in the US is $27.16 per hour. The minimum is still twice China's at $7.25. The benefits gap is even worse.
Many in the media try to deny it, but labor costs is a big reason production moved to China. The Democrats idea of $15.00 would finish us off. They also try to use our corporations as cash cows with taxes to fund their social engineering projects. Taxes on domestic companies should be zero. Nothing up a pass thru tax on customers.
You can't demand companies pay a bunch of taxes and pay people are lot, yet expect them to make cheaper products. Tariffs are the answer.
He said they had it under control based on what they knew from China at the time. That was in January, yet he still declared a national health emergency, starting quarantining people for the first time in 50 years, and created the coronavirus task force. Most of what we knew was based on what China told us, and now we weren't told everything. He said that on Jan. 22nd. The first death was in China just days earlier. He couldn't have said anything other than they had it under control. Anything else, and absolutely panic would have set in. But meanwhile, he was slowly locking things down and preparing for the worst.
The magically disappear quote is taken out of context. That's pretty dishonest. He said “It’s going to disappear. One day it’s like a miracle, it will disappear from our shores, you know, it could get worse before it gets better. Could maybe go away. We’ll see what happens. Nobody really knows.” He was referring to the seasonality of the virus. He wasn't downplaying the seriousness.
Make Hillary Clinton Ambassador to China!!
I absolutely understand the last part. That said if it’s all tied together I don’t see an issue with it. Companies shouldn’t be rewarded for sending jobs overseas or insane wage gaps from the CEO to the front line employee. Walmart and Disney are among the worst with this and despite all the talk about welfare reform we don’t care that one of the nations largest employers helps new hires file for government assistance while five people getting paid are on the list of richest people in the world. Disney brought over computer people from India and asked the American workers to train them as their replacements while Iger is making millions of dollars off the backs of park employees who are living in their cars. Explain to me why they deserve a billion dollar tax break.
I agree. It's a systematic issue. Both sides deserve a lot of blame.
One thing I would like to see of this is for the companies that used their tax breaks for stock buyback be excluded from this bailout. Let them undo their buybacks and then put them at the end of the line for this bailout for any leftovers.
So he was relying on China's responses to say that it was going to disappear? Slowly locking things down? I can't believe you would believe this lying SOB we have as a President about anything on the virus. Remember when he didn't those cruise ship travelers to come to the US because it would "hurt the numbers".
You don't lie to the American people saying that we have it under control when it isn't. You don't say that a vaccine or a treatment is available, when it isn't. Americans will die because of Trump's fiddling while the US burns.
Wow, you are totally 100% indoctrinated by the far left. I don't even know how to respond to that so I won't. Good luck with all that manufactured hate.
World leaders are scared to death now they know how easily China could succeed in a full scale biological war. I call this a warm up.
Communism is incompatible with humanity, period! China should be isolated from the world, and hopefully the Chinese peasants revolt and turn their backs on a cruel, unfaithful, and dishonest Communist regime. Communist China a threat to all free people.
I believe he tried to combat what the media eventually succeeded in by getting the US population whipped up into a frenzied panic. As I recall you TDS sufferers and the media were promoting the impeachment hoax when PDT was shutting down travel to/from China.
You may want to get that TDS-24/7/365 looked at, but I understand there's no cure. That's the real pandemic in the US.
Please get that TDS-24/7/365 looked at. No cure yet, but they can keep you from spreading it by putting a muzzle on it.
I don't think you can trust what any government says, including our own.
Never invest in any China based company again. NEVER.
I was in the stands in Charlotte for both of those games. I must be a glutton for punishment.
It would hurt the numbers, and it's absolutely a numbers game when it comes to letting infected people get off a boat and infect others.
That's a lie. He did more than any President would have done, and he did it soon. Obama did nothing other than count the infected with the swine flu, ZERO travel restrictions. ZERO quarantines. Trump did BOTH in January before there was even one death in America and even before a test was available. Obama did NOTHING but count the infected and almost 13,000 American died from something that is about 100 times LESS deadly than coronavirus.
And, no, he didn't run around with his hair on fire because that would have caused absolute panic, especially for virus that we had only known about for only a few weeks. China is the one that fiddled, not Trump.
I don’t know. But I always make it a point to do my absolute best to not buy things that say MADE IN CHINA. Mostly all of it is communist crap just like their government. It’s sickening the way they treat their citizens.
Made in America will increase
India will be able to get a lot of China market also
China will not like the outcome & will be very aggressive.
Considering every other country is probably going to be pissed at China too......go to the UN and screw China to the wall with sanctions and essentially lock them the hell down until they clean up their crappy, communist country.
Ps....forget "trade war".....there will be no trading with the United States at all. Pss..... not one sanction will be lifted until those illegal military bases are removed from the S. China Sea.
In short, crush them and crush their economy.
Ps....forget "trade war".....there will be no trading with the United States at all. Pss..... not one sanction will be lifted until those illegal military bases are removed from the S. China Sea.
In short, crush them and crush their economy.
We're pretty much already doing what we need to do with China. 1. Don't trust their governement or media. 2. Boycott Chinese made products. 3. Continue to detach by promoting business relationships with alternative nations such as India, Vietnam, and Mexico. 4. Start making the importance stuff we can ourselves.
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