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OT NFL no longer uses wonderlic test

It's a pointless test as it relates to football. These days all of the teams do their own psychological evaluations on potential draftees anyway - so the little that could be inferred from the wonderlic is covered in other ways as the teams get a more full picture of a player's psychological profile through their newer testing.
 
It's a pointless test as it relates to football. These days all of the teams do their own psychological evaluations on potential draftees anyway - so the little that could be inferred from the wonderlic is covered in other ways as the teams get a more full picture of a player's psychological profile through their newer testing.
The Wonderlic is a cognitive ability test. Is there a correlation between a player's Wonderlic score and the player's performance in the NFL? If not, it should be replaced by a more appropriate predictor. It is possible, however, that a correlation exist at some positions (e.g., quarterback) but not others (e.g., kicker).
 
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CJ Spiller says, "Thanks a lot but you're a little too late".

Yeah, on the Dean's List at Clemson multiple times and Academic All-ACC and scored a 10 out of 50, which is generally considered illiterate. Not say anything bad about him personally, because a lot of players from a lot of schools score poorly, but something doesn't match up there.
 
Yeah, on the Dean's List at Clemson multiple times and Academic All-ACC and scored a 10 out of 50, which is generally considered illiterate. Not say anything bad about him personally, because a lot of players from a lot of schools score poorly, but something doesn't match up there.
Hits the money hole twice. Now making a half mill coaching running backs at his alma mater.

You can’t make this stuff up. 🥴
 
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Our Country is getting dumber every year! When I read that an english professor at Rutgers University deemed proper grammer racist, I tapped out!!!

Do you have a link? Thanks.
 
Dem Rutgurs folk need ta git der sheet togetha. Dumarse titchers settin a bad xaple fer us reglur Muricans. I wunton go der.
 
UNCheat being sued for bias admitting some races over others. College admissions are as dirty for the regular students as they are for athletes
 
The Wonderlic had only weak "face validity" and correlation with success in the NFL. It was well known and available, and like many employers, the NFL was looking for anything to prevent million dollar hiring mistakes. It was a poor choice.
 
Look up SAT and "adversity index". They actually want to change kid's SAT scores based on their "adversity" parameters. Insane.
 
To get hired at Microsoft, you have to take a series of test. It's rather rigorous. The NFL isn't Microsoft, though. We get so much exposure to college football players today that the Wonderlic is unnecessary. We kind of have an idea who's smart and who's a big dummy.
 
To get hired at Microsoft, you have to take a series of test. It's rather rigorous. The NFL isn't Microsoft, though. We get so much exposure to college football players today that the Wonderlic is unnecessary. We kind of have an idea who's smart and who's a big dummy.

The NFL teams do a lot of these tests as well - one reason they don't care about the Wonderlic anymore. The teams get a full psychological profile (which includes intelligence markers) on all these guys before drafting.

And not directed toward your comment, but just in general, the Wonderlic has never been shown to have any correlation to NFL success or failure. Dan Marino get a 16. Heck, even Peyton Manning (considered to have one of the highest football IQ's ever) got a 28. 28 isn't terrible, but it's certainly not indicative as to how Manning's brain processes football on the field. For comparison's sake: Drew Henson, Greg McIlroy and Blaine Gabbart all scored in the 40's.

Ray Lewis got a 13. Ray is a madman, but he could read offenses as well as any middle linebacker ever did. Frank Gore got a 6 and Randy Moss a 12.
 
Look up SAT and "adversity index". They actually want to change kid's SAT scores based on their "adversity" parameters. Insane.


That's old news. Lots of schools have quit using the SAT during the pandemic. I expect many won't start using it again.
 
I admit I just did a quick Google search but found no 0 scores. Are you saying that they didn’t take the test so received a 0?
I don’t know all of the specifics. On a recent Crime in Sports podcast they talked about it and had a list of guys who had a 0 on the test.
 
The NFL teams do a lot of these tests as well - one reason they don't care about the Wonderlic anymore. The teams get a full psychological profile (which includes intelligence markers) on all these guys before drafting.

And not directed toward your comment, but just in general, the Wonderlic has never been shown to have any correlation to NFL success or failure. Dan Marino get a 16. Heck, even Peyton Manning (considered to have one of the highest football IQ's ever) got a 28. 28 isn't terrible, but it's certainly not indicative as to how Manning's brain processes football on the field. For comparison's sake: Drew Henson, Greg McIlroy and Blaine Gabbart all scored in the 40's.

Ray Lewis got a 13. Ray is a madman, but he could read offenses as well as any middle linebacker ever did. Frank Gore got a 6 and Randy Moss a 12.
I didn't think the test had anything to do with football ability. I thought it was to hopefully get some insight on a person's overall behavioral traits. Does anyone have one of the old test or a sample of questions asked on it?
 
Reminded me a lot of the LSAT. Not an easy test with the time limit. I got 21 out the 24 I answered then ran out of time. If those NFL guys aren't allowed at least paper and pencil to do the math on scratch paper first, it's definitely a challenge.
We should not laugh at those who didn't do well, and it's not a test that determines if you're capable of handling school work or not. To be honest, I don't know why this was ever adopted by the NFL. At best it could possibly be helpful when comparing a QB's quick decision making ability to other QBs.
 
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