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OT- should marijuana be legalized?

Legalize?

  • Yes

    Votes: 148 80.0%

  • No

    Votes: 37 20.0%
  • Total voters
    185
Yes, there have been many medical studies that show that the active ingredient in marijuana is beneficial to cancer patients and others with certain medical conditions. As for the casual user, I think it would help put a dent into the cartel coffers. If one could simply go to the local store and buy it (ages 18 and up), it would equate to the repeal of the 18th Amendment and its effect on the profits of organized crime in the 30's. The outdated argument that marijuana is a gateway drug has proven to be false. It's the legal stuff prescribed by doctors that have led to real abuse.
 
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tuckerrivals said:
My opinion, which I recognize is not likely a popular view these days, but here it is. I think it should be legalized, mainly bc I’m so sick of this argument and I realize that the arguments against legalization are pretty easily refuted when comparing it to alcohol and hard drugs. But that said, I hate it. Not meaning its effects on me (although I’ve never enjoyed it), but because of the harm I’ve seen it cause. It is (for some people) addictive, not just psychologically but physically. Anyone who denies that now is not being honest or drank too much of the Kool-Aid we’ve been fed. Data overwhelmingly proves it, particularly for those who start as adolescents. I’ve seen it firsthand. Go to an adolescent rehab - most kids are there for marijuana. But that’s not enough to say it shouldn’t be legal because alcohol, caffeine, and tobacco are all addictive too. I think the legalization push has created more of a problem with underage use. Kids are continually hearing how it should be legal and is less harmful than alcohol, so more are willing to experiment with it. And to many of those kids, it’s a gateway drug that leads them to try harder stuff - again, go to an adolescent rehab if you don’t believe me. Unfortunately, some of those kids will OD on drugs tainted with fentanyl. Even fentanyl-laced marijuana is being found.

So generally I’m disgusted with the legalization effort because of the denial of all the negative effects it’s had, while at the same time I think it’s time to just make it legal. If for no other reason, then to keep people from buying it on the street and risking their lives. And skip the “medical legalization” stage, that’s pure BS. There is no legitimate medical use for it, other than possibly treatment of chronic pain and anorexia in cancer patients. Just make it legal, regulate it, tax it, and shut up about it.
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You obviously are clueless on how many folks I know quit opiates because of using MJ. Most were just like you until they had nowhere else to turn for relief. I know former officers who now use it instead of lortabs for pain. Oh and I used to be like you. Life comes at you many different ways. Don't judge until you walk in their shoes.
 
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tuckerrivals said:
My opinion, which I recognize is not likely a popular view these days, but here it is. I think it should be legalized, mainly bc I’m so sick of this argument and I realize that the arguments against legalization are pretty easily refuted when comparing it to alcohol and hard drugs. But that said, I hate it. Not meaning its effects on me (although I’ve never enjoyed it), but because of the harm I’ve seen it cause. It is (for some people) addictive, not just psychologically but physically. Anyone who denies that now is not being honest or drank too much of the Kool-Aid we’ve been fed. Data overwhelmingly proves it, particularly for those who start as adolescents. I’ve seen it firsthand. Go to an adolescent rehab - most kids are there for marijuana. But that’s not enough to say it shouldn’t be legal because alcohol, caffeine, and tobacco are all addictive too. I think the legalization push has created more of a problem with underage use. Kids are continually hearing how it should be legal and is less harmful than alcohol, so more are willing to experiment with it. And to many of those kids, it’s a gateway drug that leads them to try harder stuff - again, go to an adolescent rehab if you don’t believe me. Unfortunately, some of those kids will OD on drugs tainted with fentanyl. Even fentanyl-laced marijuana is being found.

So generally I’m disgusted with the legalization effort because of the denial of all the negative effects it’s had, while at the same time I think it’s time to just make it legal. If for no other reason, then to keep people from buying it on the street and risking their lives. And skip the “medical legalization” stage, that’s pure BS. There is no legitimate medical use for it, other than possibly treatment of chronic pain and anorexia in cancer patients. Just make it legal, regulate it, tax it, and shut up about it.
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What a post loaded with bullshit.
 
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tuckerrivals said:
www.bloomberg.com

Cannabis Almost as Addictive as Opioids Among Teens, Study Finds

Teenagers’ addiction rates for cannabis are about the same as for prescription opioids, according to a new study of drugs and youth.
www.bloomberg.com www.bloomberg.com
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Some Kids are going to try alcohol, marijuana, cocaine etc. Some kids are going to huff paint, gas, glue etc….. some kids are going to raid mom and dad’s medicine cabinet and so on and so forth. The safest thing is marijuana and it’s not even close. The bottom line is some kids are just stupid and they aren’t going to make it into adulthood no matter what you do. I lost classmates during my schooldays but not one to marijuana. Alcohol is the number one offender. Always has been always will be.
 
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uscnoklahoma2 said:
You obviously are clueless on how many folks I know quit opiates because of using MJ. Most were just like you until they had nowhere else to turn for relief. I know former officers who now use it instead of lortabs for pain. Oh and I used to be like you. Life comes at you many different ways. Don't judge until you walk in their shoes.
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A really good friend of mine (in his mid-70's now) has had more back/spine surgeries than I can count over the past 20 years, his back is screwed. Pain meds don't help him. MJ does. You do what you have to do to get relief.
 
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tuckerrivals said:
www.bloomberg.com

Cannabis Almost as Addictive as Opioids Among Teens, Study Finds

Teenagers’ addiction rates for cannabis are about the same as for prescription opioids, according to a new study of drugs and youth.
www.bloomberg.com www.bloomberg.com
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I started getting high at 15. Some of my friends would smoke it at school but I didn't. There's a time and a place. School was neither of those. I smoked it until I was 40. My company announced random drug testing. As much as I enjoyed it, it was not worth losing my job over. I just stopped. That was in 1996. Could I have done that if it was addictive? Apparently around 10% of the population has a genetic predisposition to addiction, usually one or both parents being alcoholics or addicted to other drugs. What do we do about the other 90%? What is psychological addiction? In my case I liken it to growing up watching black and white TV. Then one day you get a brand new color TV. Do you ever want to go back to black and white after that?
 
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Gamecock Jacque said:
I started getting high at 15. Some of my friends would smoke it at school but I didn't. There's a time and a place. School was neither of those. I smoked it until I was 40. My company announced random drug testing. As much as I enjoyed it, it was not worth losing my job over. I just stopped. That was in 1996. Could I have done that if it was addictive? Apparently around 10% of the population has a genetic predisposition to addiction, usually one or both parents being alcoholics or addicted to other drugs. What do we do about the other 90%? What is psychological addiction? In my case I liken it to growing up watching black and white TV. Then one day you get a brand new color TV. Do you ever want to go back to black and white after that?
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The report is sketchy at best. It says that kids that age meet the "criteria for addiction" with marijuana. Then when you look at the criteria for addiction, the threshold can be extremely low (and not what most people would consider "addiction"). The study appears to be more of a study into semantics.
 
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If for medical purposes that are distributed in a controlled “pharmacy” setting, then whatever.

I work with kids and families every day. Drugs are destroying small communities bit by bit. May start as MJ, but usually progresses into something else. Even if it doesn’t, we are seeing about 60% of our kids who are drug tested (by mental health, DJJ, doctor at parent request) that we know smoke, also test positive for meth. Through conversation from the groups that are honest, the admit to smoking and drinking but deny knowing using meth. Turns out that they are lacing the weed with meth.
 
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yeah_yeah said:
If for medical purposes that are distributed in a controlled “pharmacy” setting, then whatever.

I work with kids and families every day. Drugs are destroying small communities bit by bit. May start as MJ, but usually progresses into something else. Even if it doesn’t, we are seeing about 60% of our kids who are drug tested (by mental health, DJJ, doctor at parent request) that we know smoke, also test positive for meth. Through conversation from the groups that are honest, the admit to smoking and drinking but deny knowing using meth. Turns out that they are lacing the weed with meth.
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That is terrible!
 
ansoncock said:
Ok, what's your point?
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My point? Are you on drugs? I was responding to your assertion that NONE were incarcerated for simple possession. It is a relatively low number. But .1% of all the state's prison population is not zero. Placing God's children in cages for merely possessing what God, in his infinite wisdom, placed on this earth and told us to make use of is akin to flawed human beings saying "God, YOU made a huge mistake! But don't worry, little mortal me here is gonna fix it for ya," These people will face God's wrath. All other drugs, including alcohol, must be processed by human hands. Marijuana is ready for use by itself.
 
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Gamecock Jacque said:
My point? Are you on drugs? I was responding to your assertion that NONE were incarcerated for simple possession. It is a relatively low number. But .1% of all the state's prison population is not zero. Placing God's children in cages for merely possessing what God, in his infinite wisdom, placed on this earth and told us to make use of is akin to flawed human beings saying "God, YOU made a huge mistake! But don't worry, little mortal me here is gonna fix it for ya," These people will face God's wrath. All other drugs, including alcohol, must be processed by human hands. Marijuana is ready for use by itself.
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Yeah, I'm sure God wants everyone to be intoxicated on drugs. No matter what source.
 
Boom4life said:
So because of that the government should be able to have a say? Whatever happened to separation of church and state. Your god should have nothing to do with this.
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Yeah, nothing about drugs being legal means you have to take them. Nothing about legal alcohol means you have to drink, or legal betting means you have to bet. Now if the law was mandatory that you had to drink, smoke weed or gamble, then religious people might have a point to object.
 
Gamecock Jacque said:
My point? Are you on drugs? I was responding to your assertion that NONE were incarcerated for simple possession. It is a relatively low number. But .1% of all the state's prison population is not zero. Placing God's children in cages for merely possessing what God, in his infinite wisdom, placed on this earth and told us to make use of is akin to flawed human beings saying "God, YOU made a huge mistake! But don't worry, little mortal me here is gonna fix it for ya," These people will face God's wrath. All other drugs, including alcohol, must be processed by human hands. Marijuana is ready for use by itself.
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No, I am not on drugs. The number of persons incarcerated for simple possession of marijuana may not be zero, but jail time for simple possession is extremely rare.
 
yeah_yeah said:
If for medical purposes that are distributed in a controlled “pharmacy” setting, then whatever.

I work with kids and families every day. Drugs are destroying small communities bit by bit. May start as MJ, but usually progresses into something else. Even if it doesn’t, we are seeing about 60% of our kids who are drug tested (by mental health, DJJ, doctor at parent request) that we know smoke, also test positive for meth. Through conversation from the groups that are honest, the admit to smoking and drinking but deny knowing using meth. Turns out that they are lacing the weed with meth.
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Outlaw alcohol and tobacco as well- GATEWAY
 
veer54 said:
Outlaw alcohol and tobacco as well- GATEWAY
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You know, we see very little tobacco in the normal sense. We have tons of vapes (nicotine and THC). Not saying it is okay, but I’m not sure we see anymore kids using alcohol than we did when I was growing up.
 
yeah_yeah said:
You know, we see very little tobacco in the normal sense. We have tons of vapes (nicotine and THC). Not saying it is okay, but I’m not sure we see anymore kids using alcohol than we did when I was growing up.
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Was actually being sarcastic. Vapes are new cigarettes.

But if by logic that weed is gateway drug, why are cigs, vapes, alcohol etc allowed? Those are gateway as well and more harmful.
 
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It’s legal here in Las Vegas. It’s not really my thing but I do partake every now and then if I’m in the mood to just relax. It’s great to do after a game when we get curb stomped. Takes the edge off for me.

My wife has been using it for her recovery from her recent shoulder surgery. It really does work for pain. I was never a big believer in that until I saw it first hand. She uses an indica hybrid strain (more of a body high than mind) and it actually works better than the prescription pain killers. She didn’t really have to use any of those. Two puffs and the pain subsides in a few minutes. It works really well after physical therapy. It absolutely should be legal everywhere. Hopefully the rest of the country catches up.
 
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Cocky 45 said:
no it shouldn't be legal in our state, go to colorado if you want to do that. I know the majority of people who voted don't live here or do those illegal drugs themselves. not in our state.
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Like the lottery? How did that one go?
 
yeah_yeah said:
If for medical purposes that are distributed in a controlled “pharmacy” setting, then whatever.

I work with kids and families every day. Drugs are destroying small communities bit by bit. May start as MJ, but usually progresses into something else. Even if it doesn’t, we are seeing about 60% of our kids who are drug tested (by mental health, DJJ, doctor at parent request) that we know smoke, also test positive for meth. Through conversation from the groups that are honest, the admit to smoking and drinking but deny knowing using meth. Turns out that they are lacing the weed with meth.
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Well this may be possible in some instances but highly unlikely. 1- why would someone selling drugs for money lace an inexpensive product (pot) with a more expensive one? 2- I smoked dope when I was younger. Only once did I EVER get something that was laced and we found out later it was the person who smoked with us who did it.. Not some dealer, not some endemic issue in the supply chain.

So, while it happens and it is dangerous, in the end the fact is that buying drugs from an illegal supplier/ CRIMINAL is not reliable from a quality control perspective. You want to eliminate people getting laced weed? Legalize it and let them buy product from a drug store/ dispensary, from a legal producer of the product who is held to safety and quality control standards. If we keep burying our heads in the sand saying “people won’t do it because it is illegal”, we will continue to have out of control drug abuse issues in this country. If we legalize it and allow quality product to be manufactured and distributed we can eliminate not only the “accidental” exposure to more dangerous drugs but we eliminate the need for people who want to buy to interact with criminals. Not to mention the good we could do with tax revenue from the industry- a tiny percentage of what can be made would be enough to open drug treatment facilities across the nation that could help people with real addiction issues.

The real cause of the “gateway” effect of marijuana to more dangerous drugs is the mere fact it is illegal. This is a two pronged causality- the BS anti-weed propaganda creates a stigma where kids think “hmm they said weed was bad, I smoke weed, I am fine- maybe this other stuff is not so bad either”, AND the people who supply it often offer other drugs as well. You go to your local drug store to buy some weed and they are out, the pharmacist is not going to be like “hey man, I am out of weed but if you like that, you should really try Crack/coke/ron!”. You go to a “street pharmacist” and that type of conversation happens all the time and I can assure you it works on some. I have seen it first hand. I never got into hard stuff because I knew I had an addictive personality and it would be bad if I did… but I had plenty of friends who did and I saw first hand how that exact type of mentality and peer pressure lead them down a dark path. The problem with pot is that it is illegal.

I must have quit a half dozen times for reaons like drug tests coming up or simply not having access during the time I was an active smoker and I GUARANTEE it is not PHYSICALLY addictive at all. There are no withdrawal symptoms from pot, there is no craving/pain/disorientation… It is a MYTH to say it is addictive. It is HABIT FORMING, but those are not the same thing. Nicotine is ADDICTIVE. I have quit smoking/vaping numerous times in my life even for over a decade once but there is always a craving for it, you feel it as you are getting off of it. The times I quit smoking dope- NOTHING. You may think to yourself “man I’d like to get high and watch a movie” but that is about it and again that is only indicative of a habit/ something you enjoy not a physical addiction. Anyone comparing “marijuana addiction” to opioids or nicotine and claiming they are similar is simply not doing it right. They are looking at the wrong data, do not understand what addiction is or they are using a different definition than what I was taught addiction meant in the “psychology of drug use and effects” classes I took in college.
 
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Boom4life said:
So because of that the government should be able to have a say? Whatever happened to separation of church and state. Your god should have nothing to do with this.
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I was responding to a post if you would read it. God is for everyone not just me
 
The Federal Government has Marijuana classified as a schedule one drug- along with LSD, Heroin, Ecstasy, and Peyote. That is INSANELY STUPID.

You have to ask WHY? Follow the money to the bullshit trillions of dollars “war on drugs”. How’s that worked out other than making criminals out of small time street dealers and filling our prisons up with non-violent offenders.

I’m 64 and smoked weed for the first time at 16. Somehow I managed to graduate from USC and have a fairly productive career in sales. I stopped smoking weed n my late 20’s, got married and had three kids. I see NOTHING WRONG with recreational use of marijuana. I do see an issue with daily use though. Just as I do with daily alcohol use, tobacco, or over eating. Over indulgence in most anything ain’t good for you.

Should be legal, taxed, and regulated just as alcohol has been for 90 years or so.

My .02 worth
 
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veer54 said:
Was actually being sarcastic. Vapes are new cigarettes.

But if by logic that weed is gateway drug, why are cigs, vapes, alcohol etc allowed? Those are gateway as well and more harmful.
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I know you were being sarcastic. Like most things, you never know how it will affect you until you use it. I have seen try it once, I have see some use only mj, but I have also seen it destroy due to finances or moving on to harder stuff.
 
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