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Per Twitter spring game all-american Hunter Johnson is transferring.

The time to transfer is as soon as you might suspect you need to. That gets you back on the field sooner and keeps you relevant. This boy who just transfered had to make his move. He could conceivably even become a graduate transfer later before he's very old.


Yep. If you are Johnson you have to go. If the staff was open with him he heard them say, "As it now stands, Lawrence has xyz advantages". Staying another year makes no sense for him.

As for Bryant, it is hard to see him leaving. The only seniors who leave are the ones down the depth chart who hope they can find one last year somewhere else, and even that has to be done early. Come fall, that opportunity gets pretty slim. I am sure he knows he will start the Furman game, and that both he and Lawrence will get lots of playing time, and that unless Lawrence looks like Johnny Football Bryant will also start against TAMU. From then on all bets are off. Bryant knows all that. There is no, "You will not start against Furman" coming, so he has to decide to leave now, as a starter, which he wont.

Besides, this is not nearly the soap opera to them as it is to us. Johnson is not mad at anybody, no one is mad at Johnson, and Bryant will take his chances with 2018 and be supportive of however it turns out. Its about that simple.
 
The travesty about these two games is that Hunter Johnson was sitting on the bench was never put in either game. He is an outstanding quarterback and might have changed the outcome of the games...we'll never know.

I was thinking the same thing. Thought he had the most accurate arm on your team, although only saw him in more or less mop-up duty. This kid will help someone, and what if Bryant or Lawrence goes down with a hammy or ACL?
 
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I was thinking the same thing. Thought he had the most accurate arm on your team, although only saw him in more or less mop-up duty. This kid will help someone, and what if Bryant or Lawrence goes down with a hammy or ACL?

That is a good question, but Bryant-Lawrence-Brice is still the best situation in d1 out there. Well, Hurts-Tua is great too, but in that same category.
 
Is it me, or does one sense a little bit of instability in tater town? Seems to be something brewing

nope...if you have 2 five star players tranfer out that and both of those 5 star players are highly regarded, but both are possible 3rd down the depth chart it shows you have a pretty stable thing going on...
 
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nope...if you have 2 five star players tranfer out that and both of those 5 star players are highly regarded, but both are possible 3rd down the depth chart it shows you have a pretty stable thing going on...
Is it me, or does one sense a little bit of instability in tater town? Seems to be something brewing

Good question. Instability of what? If an enterprise has few options, no good ones are ever rejected. If it develops a base of resources and options, some will necessarily be self selected out. That state is one to be aspired to, not avoided.
 
Is it me, or does one sense a little bit of instability in tater town? Seems to be something brewing

In terms of instability in the program, I wouldn’t read too much into, just the case of it no longer being good fit for Johnson. If he is smart about transferring, and I'm thinking he go with his head as apposed to his heart this time around, he’ll be a very good to great college qb with an NFL opportunity. Just like Trevor Lawrence. If he is smart, he will only say good things about Dabo and his time at Clemson and Dabo will do the same for him. This story will have fairytale ending. Now if Dabo and crew decide to replace Kelly Bryant with Lawrence, I can see some fallout from that. Unless Bryant is just turrible to the point his teammates are in favor of a change, that could be a problem. I mean can imagine the negative backlash if Dabo replaces a senior AA quarterback with freshman tranny?
 
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Clemson loses to Syracuse: Doesn't count, Kelly Bryant was injured.

Clemson loses to Bama: Clemson was the better overall team, but Kelly Bryant is awful. Can't wait for TLaw to get here.

TLaw? Please clarify
 
I am glad he is gone. He was making eyes at my High School daughter at golf camp last year (the golf kids eat in the cafeteria at the same time the youth football camp kids do - he was helping with that.) Hopefully he will be out of there before she heads back to golf camp again in June. I would hate to have to break him like a twig.

Bahaha,,, as a daddy of two daughters,,, yer a made man in my book...
 
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Good question. Instability of what? If an enterprise has few options, no good ones are ever rejected. If it develops a base of resources and options, some will necessarily be self selected out. That state is one to be aspired to, not avoided.

I can’t quite put my finger on it. Mostly blind hope that those clowns are beginning their decline.

Gonna suck when Bryant still can’t produce and Lawrence is a bust, but that day will have to come in time.

I mainly just like to see chinks in the All In armour. Lol
 
The travesty about these two games is that Hunter Johnson was sitting on the bench was never put in either game. He is an outstanding quarterback and might have changed the outcome of the games...we'll never know.

Well, I will concede your point about the Syracuse game. It's strange that Dabo didn't play him. Maybe he feared a quarterback controversy mid-season.
 
I can’t quite put my finger on it. Mostly blind hope that those clowns are beginning their decline.

Gonna suck when Bryant still can’t produce and Lawrence is a bust, but that day will have to come in time.

I mainly just like to see chinks in the All In armour. Lol

Hard to put a "still can't produce" tag on a qb that went to the final four. Has weaknesses, some of which became more important against a defense like Bama's, but 'still can't produce' is not something 12 other teams including Auburn would say about him. If he 'cant produce' like that in 2018, so be it.

Lawrence being a bust....okay, we'll see. The question was about instablility in the program, and every metric regarding stability is where most programs aspire to be.

Similar at SC: things aren't perfect but all signs are in the right direction, and a transfer here or there doesn't change that.
 
I can’t quite put my finger on it. Mostly blind hope that those clowns are beginning their decline.

Gonna suck when Bryant still can’t produce and Lawrence is a bust, but that day will have to come in time.

I mainly just like to see chinks in the All In armour. Lol
I have to agree. The taters have no good quarterback left. Last year, they played high school teams and almost lost EVERY game. The one desent team they played, Alabama, killed them. Lawrense is just a high school kid. I hurd he cant throw reel good. They are cycling out and we are cycling in! We are gonna kill them in deaf valley next year, 42-0! Go cocs!
 
Since the Heisman has already been won for a record 3 straight years by TL, who is the next Clemson QB to win it?
I think Bentley win it next year. Go cocs!
BTW, sence Coach Heisman was a former tater coach, I think they should call it the Georg Rodgers award!
 
I have to agree. The taters have no good quarterback left. Last year, they played high school teams and almost lost EVERY game. The one desent team they played, Alabama, killed them. Lawrense is just a high school kid. I hurd he cant throw reel good. They are cycling out and we are cycling in! We are gonna kill them in deaf valley next year, 42-0! Go cocs!
An Honors graduate of Clemson decides to chime in.
 
I think Bentley win it next year. Go cocs!
BTW, sence Coach Heisman was a former tater coach, I think they should call it the Georg Rodgers award!

welcome back, again, its like de ja vu all over again, like the last 48 times, reminds me of BoomBus....
 
Thankfully mine is only 6 so I don't have to deal with that for a few more years.

Mine are right there too.. one turned 4 today and the other turns 8 in july..

But when the time comes for boys to get involved,, i will simply inform them that i am not afraid of dying or going to prison,, so think about that when u look at my babies...
 
Mine are right there too.. one turned 4 today and the other turns 8 in july..

But when the time comes for boys to get involved,, i will simply inform them that i am not afraid of dying or going to prison,, so think about that when u look at my babies...

To both of you guys, this may fall under the category of 'way more than you wanted to know'. My little girl just graduated college, and she is currently dating a guy I am not thrilled about. I don't need to get into x rated language for the three of us to know what we are talking about. But I can talk with my daughter straight up about this because of an idea that was passed on to me, and which I used, and I now pass it on if you are interested:

When my daughter started dating we put in a rule: daddy has to meet one-on-one with any new boy you date before you go out the first time. At first she was "aw, daaad", but by the time she left high school she loved it. It went like this:

Sometime before the first date he had to call me and arrange a time to meet. Not through my daughter. A phone call from him to me. We would meet on our patio, just me and him, and it would go like this:

* Wait about 30 seconds with nothing said. Let him sweat a bit.
* Me: "So, I understand you are attracted to my daughter."

They always shit a brick here. "Yes" doesn't sound right, but "no" doesn't either. Deer in the headlights. I just look at them with no expression while they wonder what to say. Then I smile and say,

"I understand. We like her too." Always get a nervous laugh here.

Me: "I also understand that at least half of your attraction to her is physical."

This is always funny. They turn backflips claiming otherwise. "Oh no, Mr Smith, that is not right at all. I think she is the smartest and most interesting..."

Me: "Son, stop it. Its just me and you out here, no one to impress, and I'm miles ahead of you. Don't BS me on this. See, there is nothing wrong with that. Its just how God made us guys. We get all excited about physcial appearance. So, hey, its okay. I understand. No sweat at all. And because that is the way we guys were created, I am giving you permission to kiss or touch my daughter anywhere you like....above the neck and below the knee. Can you picture above the neck and below the knee?"

Him: "Yessir."

Me: "Great! See, this is not hard at all. There are two exceptIons to this rule. On her birthday, and on the night of the prom, you may place your hand on the small of her back to escort her into and out of a room, protecting her from all others who might have other designs. But on the other 363 days its above the neck and below the knee. We straight on that?"

Him: "Yessir."

Me: "I can't predict how this will go. Its all up to her, isn't it? But if you are fortunate, and you guys continue to see each other, you and I will cross paths from time to time. At such times I might ask you this question: "Are you behaving honorably regarding my daughter?" Now, when I ask you that question I am not looking for a philosophical answer. All I really want to know is 'above the neck and below the knee.' You will answer 'yes' or 'no'. And I will determine whether your answer is correct. Are we clear on this?"

Him: "Yessir."

Me: (Big genuine smile) "Great! See how easy that was? I'm glad we had this little talk. You guys are going to do great. Now go have a great time."

By the time she graduated high school, my daughter judged boys by how they reacted to this. She told me once, "Daddy, there are several boys who wanted to go out with me that you never knew about. They balked at calling to come see you, and I figured that any guy not man enough to do that wasn't worth going out with."

It gave her a safe place to be in the scary world of dating. I know how much you love your daughters. I hope you enjoy the teen years as much as the childhood years. When mine was a child I told God that I didn't care if He took me home early, but that I wanted to see her to age 20, so I could see the young woman she was destined to be. After that, I didn't care. I imagine you feel much the same way.
 
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Tillman Tech has had 4 QBs transfer out since January......Tucker Israel, Zerrick Cooper, Hunter Johnson, Chase Brice. Not surprising, kids want to play and will seek that out.
What I find difficult is how they are able to get kids to swallow their bs with the numbers staring them in the face.

What BS?
 
To both of you guys, this may fall under the category of 'way more than you wanted to know'. My little girl just graduated college, and she is currently dating a guy I am not thrilled about. I don't need to get into x rated language for the three of us to know what we are talking about. But I can talk with my daughter straight up about this because of an idea that was passed on to me, and which I used, and I now pass it on if you are interested:

When my daughter started dating we put in a rule: daddy has to meet one-on-one with any new boy you date before you go out the first time. At first she was "aw, daaad", but by the time she left high school she loved it. It went like this:

Sometime before the first date he had to call me and arrange a time to meet. Not through my daughter. A phone call from him to me. We would meet on our patio, just me and him, and it would go like this:

* Wait about 30 seconds with nothing said. Let him sweat a bit.
* Me: "So, I understand you are attracted to my daughter."

They always shit a brick here. "Yes" doesn't sound right, but "no" doesn't either. Deer in the headlights. I just look at them with no expression while they wonder what to say. Then I smile and say,

"I understand. We like her too." Always get a nervous laugh here.

Me: "I also understand that at least half of your attraction to her is physical."

This is always funny. They turn backflips claiming otherwise. "Oh no, Mr Smith, that is not right at all. I think she is the smartest and most interesting..."

Me: "Son, stop it. Its just me and you out here, no one to impress, and I'm miles ahead of you. Don't BS me on this. See, there is nothing wrong with that. Its just how God made us guys. We get all excited about physcial appearance. So, hey, its okay. I understand. No sweat at all. And because that is the way we guys were created, I am giving you permission to kiss or touch my daughter anywhere you like....above the neck and below the knee. Can you picture above the neck and below the knee?"

Him: "Yessir."

Me: "Great! See, this is not hard at all. There are two exceptIons to this rule. On her birthday, and on the night of the prom, you may place your hand on the small of her back to escort her into and out of a room, protecting her from all others who might have other designs. But on the other 363 days its above the neck and below the knee. We straight on that?"

Him: "Yessir."

Me: "I can't predict how this will go. Its all up to her, isn't it? But if you are fortunate, and you guys continue to see each other, you and I will cross paths from time to time. At such times I might ask you this question: "Are you behaving honorably regarding my daughter?" Now, when I ask you that question I am not looking for a philosophical answer. All I really want to know is 'above the neck and below the knee.' You will answer 'yes' or 'no'. And I will determine whether your answer is correct. Are we clear on this?"

Him: "Yessir."

Me: (Big genuine smile) "Great! See how easy that was? I'm glad we had this little talk. You guys are going to do great. Now go have a great time."

By the time she graduated high school, my daughter judged boys by how they reacted to this. She told me once, "Daddy, there are several boys who wanted to go out with me that you never knew about. They balked at calling to come see you, and I figured that any guy not man enough to do that wasn't worth going out with."

It gave her a safe place to be in the scary world of dating. I know how much you love your daughters. I hope you enjoy the teen years as much as the childhood years. When mine was a child I told God that I didn't care if He took me home early, but that I wanted to see her to age 20, so I could see the young woman she was destined to be. After that, I didn't care. I imagine you feel much the same way.

I know my daughters will make mistakes, but if they see their mom and I living God centered lives,, they will always know where to look for a course correction!

I am a pretty big guy,, 6’4”,, 270... I will probably not have to say much,,, but i will tell whoever marries my girls this... As long as I have a breath in my body,,, they will always be my little girls.. if you ever decide to raise a hand to them,,,, just know that they will have to deal with me,,,, and no matter how big and bad they are,,, and however feeble i may be,,,, i’ll probably be able to operate a firearm...
I’d just have to ask the Lord to forgive me,,, which he will..
 
To both of you guys, this may fall under the category of 'way more than you wanted to know'. My little girl just graduated college, and she is currently dating a guy I am not thrilled about. I don't need to get into x rated language for the three of us to know what we are talking about. But I can talk with my daughter straight up about this because of an idea that was passed on to me, and which I used, and I now pass it on if you are interested:

When my daughter started dating we put in a rule: daddy has to meet one-on-one with any new boy you date before you go out the first time. At first she was "aw, daaad", but by the time she left high school she loved it. It went like this:

Sometime before the first date he had to call me and arrange a time to meet. Not through my daughter. A phone call from him to me. We would meet on our patio, just me and him, and it would go like this:

* Wait about 30 seconds with nothing said. Let him sweat a bit.
* Me: "So, I understand you are attracted to my daughter."

They always shit a brick here. "Yes" doesn't sound right, but "no" doesn't either. Deer in the headlights. I just look at them with no expression while they wonder what to say. Then I smile and say,

"I understand. We like her too." Always get a nervous laugh here.

Me: "I also understand that at least half of your attraction to her is physical."

This is always funny. They turn backflips claiming otherwise. "Oh no, Mr Smith, that is not right at all. I think she is the smartest and most interesting..."

Me: "Son, stop it. Its just me and you out here, no one to impress, and I'm miles ahead of you. Don't BS me on this. See, there is nothing wrong with that. Its just how God made us guys. We get all excited about physcial appearance. So, hey, its okay. I understand. No sweat at all. And because that is the way we guys were created, I am giving you permission to kiss or touch my daughter anywhere you like....above the neck and below the knee. Can you picture above the neck and below the knee?"

Him: "Yessir."

Me: "Great! See, this is not hard at all. There are two exceptIons to this rule. On her birthday, and on the night of the prom, you may place your hand on the small of her back to escort her into and out of a room, protecting her from all others who might have other designs. But on the other 363 days its above the neck and below the knee. We straight on that?"

Him: "Yessir."

Me: "I can't predict how this will go. Its all up to her, isn't it? But if you are fortunate, and you guys continue to see each other, you and I will cross paths from time to time. At such times I might ask you this question: "Are you behaving honorably regarding my daughter?" Now, when I ask you that question I am not looking for a philosophical answer. All I really want to know is 'above the neck and below the knee.' You will answer 'yes' or 'no'. And I will determine whether your answer is correct. Are we clear on this?"

Him: "Yessir."

Me: (Big genuine smile) "Great! See how easy that was? I'm glad we had this little talk. You guys are going to do great. Now go have a great time."

By the time she graduated high school, my daughter judged boys by how they reacted to this. She told me once, "Daddy, there are several boys who wanted to go out with me that you never knew about. They balked at calling to come see you, and I figured that any guy not man enough to do that wasn't worth going out with."

It gave her a safe place to be in the scary world of dating. I know how much you love your daughters. I hope you enjoy the teen years as much as the childhood years. When mine was a child I told God that I didn't care if He took me home early, but that I wanted to see her to age 20, so I could see the young woman she was destined to be. After that, I didn't care. I imagine you feel much the same way.

I just told all the boys who wanted to date my daughters that I wasn’t scared to go back to jail :)
 
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I had a young man come by to pick my daughter up for a first date . I walked into the room and tossed a 12 gauge shell at him loaded with Buck shot. He caught the shell and I asked if he knew what it was . The young man said yes sir . I told him that if my daughter ever came in hurt, crying or changed in ANYWAY ! that the next time the buck shot would come at him a lot faster if he knew what i meant. I do believe he did not hold her hand or almost a month per my DD .
 
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You guys are making me laugh with these replies but I see some good info to keep in the back of my mind. My daughter had two boys get in a fist fight over who could play on the playground with her at daycare. I am NOT looking forward to what lies ahead.
 
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