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1) He's Ray Freaking TannerMaybe you could give us a list of accomplishments that justify his million dollar a year salary.
It's better than it's been previously. It's not just about football you know.
From a student athlete's point of view it's not.In the south, yes it is.
Hyman never said a word for or against hiring Tanner. You believe too much stuff posted on message boards.Even after Hyman cautioned against hiring Tanner, I thought it was a good idea and continued to think so for about 2-3 years. Now I know.
Well..you're the one who said you don't know much.I don’t know much, but hiring Tanner felt like the obvious, good ole boy promotion that seems to be an underlying problem.
So he wins in baseball, a sport that honestly nobody outside of the southeast cares abt, and that qualifies him to run our athletic program???
Seems like some people are just rewarding someone for winning essentially meaningless championship
So do you think Muschamp was the guy Ray wanted all along? (Because Ray could've had a deal and hired him as soon as the Clemson was over with the head start he had.)You're making a lot of assumptions about a situation you really know nothing about. No one does.
In terms if money and fans.From a student athlete's point of view it's not.
Have no idea...no one knows. Details of the coaching search have never been made public, and anyone who claims to know is lying.So do you think Muschamp was the guy Ray wanted all along? (Because Ray could've had a deal and hired him as soon as the Clemson was over with the head start he had.)
Or is it possible that Ray whiffed on his first targets and had to settle?
Actually no, Ray has to take care of the women soccer players every bit as much as the male football players.In terms if money and fans.
Do we know the exact details of how everything went down? No. Were there credible reports that shed light on the process (such as Ray interviewing Rich Rod of all people)? Yes.Have no idea...no one knows. Details of the coaching search have never been made public, and anyone who claims to know is lying.
The next response will probably be that Jerri Spurrier talked Ray into hiring Muschamp liked she supposedly talked Steve into staying for 2015 season (instead of Ray asking Spurrier to stay). Apparently she was calling all the shots.Do we know the exact details of how everything went down? No. Were there credible reports that shed light on the process (such as Ray interviewing Rich Rod of all people)? Yes.
What other school was vying for Muschamp's services? If he was "the guy" all along, why did Ray wait so long to hire him? Unless and until someone comes up with believable answers to those two questions, it is more than reasonable to assume that Ray whiffed on his first targets.
When I went to USC, I knew several athletes that played sports such as swim and dive, golf, equestrian and women's soccer. I even had a fraternity brother that played on the baseball team with Adam Everett.In terms if money and fans.
Klems AD:
"Dan Radakovich (born June 9, 1958) is the athletics director at Clemson University. Previously, he was the Athletics Director at the Georgia Institute of Technology, a position he held from February 22, 2006 to October 29, 2012. He was previously the Senior Associate Director of Athletics at Louisiana State University."
May want to review his history at GaTech.Klems AD:
"Dan Radakovich (born June 9, 1958) is the athletics director at Clemson University. Previously, he was the Athletics Director at the Georgia Institute of Technology, a position he held from February 22, 2006 to October 29, 2012. He was previously the Senior Associate Director of Athletics at Louisiana State University."
More speculation. No, it's not reasonable because once again, the details of the search will never be made public. The phantom Rodriguez interview is more message board fodder. It sounds like you've bought in to the b.s. on this board.Do we know the exact details of how everything went down? No. Were there credible reports that shed light on the process (such as Ray interviewing Rich Rod of all people)? Yes.
What other school was vying for Muschamp's services? If he was "the guy" all along, why did Ray wait so long to hire him? Unless and until someone comes up with believable answers to those questions, it is more than reasonable to assume that Ray whiffed on his first targets.
Well since Spurrier said his wife was the one who wanted him to stay I tend to believe it. But don't let that fact get in the way of your post.The next response will probably be that Jerri Spurrier talked Ray into hiring Muschamp liked she supposedly talked Steve into staying for 2015 season (instead of Ray asking Spurrier to stay). Apparently she was calling all the shots.
Where has anyone said football isn't king?When I went to USC, I knew several athletes that played sports such as swim and dive, golf, equestrian and women's soccer. I even had a fraternity brother that played on the baseball team with Adam Everett.
Believe me, they ALL knew the deal: Football is and was king. And without it, they most likely wouldn't be able to play their sport on the collegiate level.
So in other words, you can't answer those questions?More speculation. No, it's not reasonable because once again, the details of the search will never be made public. The phantom Rodriguez interview is more message board fodder. It sounds like you've bought in to the b.s. on this board.
Since I'm not Ray Tanner, Harris Pastides, or a member of the BOT, no.So in other words, you can't answer those questions?
So I would think common sense says that Ray hired Muschamp because that's all he could get -- even with the biggest head start in the country.Since I'm not Ray Tanner, Harris Pastides, or a member of the BOT, no.
The post was a joke. For the record, your general inside knowledge of the program appears to be as speculative as anyone else's on this board.Well since Spurrier said his wife was the one who wanted him to stay I tend to believe it. But don't let that fact get in the way of your post.
RR was interviewed by Ray. That was never in dispute. But he also claimed Ray offered him the job, which Tanner denied. Just google it, man.More speculation. No, it's not reasonable because once again, the details of the search will never be made public. The phantom Rodriguez interview is more message board fodder. It sounds like you've bought in to the b.s. on this board.
I agree. But FTR, Kitchenlabs is a woman. Just FYI.RR was interviewed by Ray. That was never in dispute. But he also claimed Ray offered him the job, which Tanner denied. Just google it, man.
Since Ray became AD in 2012, the football team had consecutive 11-win seasons, culminating with their highest final ranking in program history in 2013 at #4, the men's basketball team made the Final Four for the first and only time in program history, and the women's basketball team won a national title and 4 consecutive SEC championships. When you add the glory years the baseball team also experienced under his leadership, the Ray Tanner era has been the single best era in Gamecock sports history for each of the major revenue sports.
Also, in the "Director's Cup" standings, 2017 and 2018 were the two best years that South Carolina has ever had at #21 and #26 respectively. In the 10 previous years, the program's average finish was #40.
Meanwhile, the Athletic Department has posted record revenues, impressive academic progress and graduation rates, and has experienced substantial facility upgrades.
A Georgia fan has to lay it out for the Carolina "fans"
Well..you're the one who said you don't know much.
It's better than it's been previously. It's not just about football you know.
3 main things that helped get Ray hired unfortunately by our buddy system BOT that are not AD qualifications:
1) He's a legendary coach
2) He loves and is passionate about Carolina
3) He really really wants the job because he's ready to retire from coaching
Yeah...I'm definitely a big problem for the university...please...Haha. Not sure ur personal connection with Tanner but u seem like one of the problems. Win in a meaningless sport and ur qualified to run an athletic department???
I only quoted what Spurrier said. You can call it whatever you want.The post was a joke. For the record, your general inside knowledge of the program appears to be as speculative as anyone else's on this board.
I'll say this about Tanner because I know how he operates. He would not have hired Muschamp if he didn't think he was the one for the job. It was not a knee jerk hire. Tanner was not like that as a coach, and he's not like that as an a.d.So I would think common sense says that Ray hired Muschamp because that's all he could get -- even with the biggest head start in the country.
So I'll ask again: Why did he wait so long to do it?I'll say this about Tanner because I know how he operates. He would not have hired Muschamp if he didn't think he was the one for the job. It was not a knee jerk hire. Tanner was not like that as a coach, and he's not like that as an a.d.
Because that's how he wanted to do it is my opinion. He would have waited another 6 months if that's what he felt he needed to do.So I'll ask again: Why did he wait so long to do it?
Oh come on. You know good and well Ray wasn't going to wait six months to make the biggest hire of his career. He would've been stuck hiring a D-III coach. If you really want to believe he waited forever to hire a coach that no one else wanted to hire just because, that's on you. But to each their own.Because that's how he wanted to do it is my opinion. He would have waited another 6 months if that's what he felt he needed to do.
This was exactly the logic of MANY people here. We can blame the Board but this line of thinking was in no way limited to them.3 main things that helped get Ray hired unfortunately by our buddy system BOT that are not AD qualifications:
1) He's a legendary coach
2) He loves and is passionate about Carolina
3) He really really wants the job because he's ready to retire from coaching