I find it hard to believe that Anyone that evaluated our season of total offensIve confusion could say that OC does need some immediate tweaking.
So are we keeping Satterfield ?
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I’ve resigned myself to the fact that he’s staying. As has been the case for the last 50yrs, I’ll roll into the off-season with the “wait-‘till-next-year” mantra, hoping we will be better than the 116th ranked offense in all of D1 football (or whatever disaster he coached us to this season). Offensive ineptitude certainly won’t be because of lack of talent in 2021! Next season will certainly be time for Satt to poop or get off the pot….. right? It’s just gotta be, right??!
I agree with this so much! I'm OK with Beamer making the decision to keep Satterfield because other people in the know believe in him too. I trust Beamer. But if we aren't in the top 50-70 nationally next year and in the top 5-7 in the conference with the loaded roster we are seeing (on offense) then something has to give.
Definitely. I give Satt a pass on this year. When you have to start a GA at QB, it's hard to get a good read on what's going on. Next year there will be no excuses.
Really, at this point it doesn't look like we will make any changes.
But I've heard talk by people who know (here and other places) that SB's approach is to wait until January to make staff changes - after the bowl game. Further, that he's not worried about changes that have already been made and believes he can get who he wants.
So, I guess we wait and see.
But I've heard talk by people who know (here and other places) that SB's approach is to wait until January to make staff changes - after the bowl game. Further, that he's not worried about changes that have already been made and believes he can get who he wants.
So, I guess we wait and see.
He wasn't leaving before the bowl game if ever. If he has a bad year next year a change will be made. It's not all or nothing.
I like how the narrative changes each year. Last year, January 7th was way too late in the process for him to hire a decent OC that's why he had to go with his buddy Satterfield.
I think a change has to be made. Could’ve won at least 2 more games if things weren’t so complex. No reason to think that’ll change UNLESS we plan to get players that can run an NFL system
Don't believe any college team can run a true NFL system...its just too complex and the NFL has a lot more time to install and practice it. That is the hard lesson that Weiss had to learn....he just couldn't take the NE offense and install it at UND. College simply doesn't allow the practice time to do so.
Please let us stop with the coordinator analysyis Beamer is responsible for the staff members who work for him., including the weekly game plan. He can change that plan at his discretion on gameday.
Oh they’ll find excuses, don’t worry.
When the quarterbacks had time ( any quarterback) we were fine. He’s not that bad but the o-line was.
That’s when I knew Satt was a genius and what he and Shane meant when they fed us all that bologna about playing to the strengths of the guys on the team.
it could be different. You don’t call plays you don’t think your team is capable of executing. Different personnel could very well change the play calling.
It was less complex last year, and we won 1 SEC game less. What you are saying can be said for every team, every year.
I agree. It's often said that exceptional qb play masked mediocre or bad coaching at clemson. I think the Rattler situation could be similar.
We are thrilled to be where we are currently. .500 is good for us. We not making any changes
I think it would be foolish not to incorporate some or more of the Oklahoma offense .I would also like to see kimery and step get involved so we may start a coaching tree in the future.
Everyone keeps making excuses about injuries and QB rankings like SC was the only team with issues there. BC ended up playing a guy who wasn’t even ranked at QB for most of the season and finished above SC in terms of offense. There was a combination of issues but they were made worse by the lack of even a mediocre OC.
Here's the thing...and not directed at you Pony. I'm obviously not one of the sunshine pumpers. But....go dig up the threads or whatever...this was the issue (I) and many had with the Beamer hire. True...didn't want him. But, when you find out that he's coming here from a few years in Air Raid ("technically" Power Raid it's being called out there recently) and you don't bring it here....it's just a gut punch. It's like marrying Miss America and then she goes on a 3,000 calorie eating binge for 2 years.
I know Beamer is no AR expert...but being in the system a few years and most importantly having the connections to guys was my only hope for him. I know for sure we can't attempt to recruit the same players and compete against GA, UF, A&M, Bama, LSU. You have to interject scheme into this equation or else we're dead in the water.
For all you experts that argued against me...check out Tennessee's 15th ranked offense nationally. Air Raid isn't a panacea...but it gives you a chance to compete and if you pair it with a gambling/TO hungry defense you CAN get lightning in a bottle. 15 in the nation and 19th in yards per play on offense ain't too bad for that first year SEC HC Heupel and his offense. You had better be an expert at something (one side) coming in as a HC, or else have great chops and ability to hire guys smarter and more accomplished than you. We are on the titanic.
we already "incorporate" some of AR/PR into our offense with certain plays. The system has been what's proven to work. Sure guys tweak here and there, but there are some fallbacks that make the whole system go....not unlike running veer or wing T. You rely on certain things, weaknesses and take advantage when you opportunities arise.
I can't think of a single thing to argue with in this post. (and I looked - LoL)
My "guess" is that: (1) Beamer didn't like the AR offense (or Power Raid as you called it), (2) he doesn't understand the concepts (hard to believe) or (3) he couldn't find someone he knew to install it so he went with something else.
That's not the real story.
Grosel, while he was unranked, had been in their system for 3 years. He wasn't some guy that just got there with a new OC and system. And Brown was unranked and Nolan was a rivals 2* that ended up in FCS. Neither knew the offense as well as Grosel.
And Jurkovech, their experienced 4* QB from ND that is going to the NFL after next year, started the season and went down and game 2. Then came back for the last 4 games to get them bowl eligible. He is way better than any option we had on our team. Some had him as a possible late first rounder this year.
And it's not like they were much better. They were 103.
You love to throw out vague generalizations to somehow make our situation look better than it was and push your agenda, but the details tell the truth.
So a guy who sat on the bench for 3 years after being unranked is somehow better than 2 guys who were starters at other programs?
103 is still better than 116 no matter how you slice it.
Again, another generalization that just isn't true.
He's been practicing with them since Spring of 2017. Redshirted in 2018. Started SEVEN games in 2019 and played in all 13. Jurkovech played most of 2020, but he still played in 3 games and started against Virginia.
So, no, he wasn't "benched" for 3 years. Experience wise, he was far more ready to be on the field for that team than anybody we started, even Doty.
And, yes technically, 103 is still better, but they had a first round NFL draft quality QB for 5 games. So, given the circumstance, nothing to brag about. Certainly much better a situation than we had. Of course, you leave all these details out.
That's exactly right. Those guys work full-time and a lot of it is many hours of bookwork and film study. And then, there are countless reps on the field. They have minicamps in the offseason aside from the Big Push in training camp and players come in on their own to study film. There's no way a college offense could possibly be as sophisticated.
(4) Didn't feel he had the personnel to run it.
I don't believe it's #4 but I think it is a combination of 1, 3 (kind of) and 4.
BC got a new staff in 2020 so by your logic 2017 to 2019 doesn’t count. Regardless they certainly seemed to figure out how to run an offense with a zero star recruit.
Maybe the difference is the quality of QB/OC they have. There is no comparison with Satterfield in that department.
Trust your coach. He will make the right decision on OC
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Because of WM it feels like this is year 25 of inept offense and wishing we’d get a big time OC.
They had a projected first round NFL Draft QB for 5 games. We didn't have that for one game. And they still only ended up 103 vs 116. Hardly a case study for how our staff didn't succeed. lol
Wanting is one thing. Getting is another. What "big time" OC is getting away from the richer schools and coming here?
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