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So are we keeping Satterfield ?

Look at his patterns. Rhule hired him as QB/Coach and OC. He was apparently so successful that Rhule then hired a QB coach and shifted Satterfield to RBs.

When things went south at Tenn Tech it was back to Rhule as a TE coach and then off to the Panthers as an assistant to the OL.

If he was that great of an offensive mind why would Rhule keep shifting him down the line and before we start with the “other guys doing things at Baylor” it didn’t stop him from hiring a QB coach at Temple when that was Satterfield’s position.
My issue with this explanation is that each of those position coaching moves would be considered a demotion. If an OC is also a successful QB coach, you under no circumstances move him to another position.....especially to RB coach which is almost a glorified recruiting position.
 
My issue with this explanation is that each of those position coaching moves would be considered a demotion. If an OC is also a successful QB coach, you under no circumstances move him to another position.....especially to RB coach which is almost a glorified recruiting position.

I suspect QB coach makes more than RB coach, so it could have been just freeing up a title to justify a salary for the next guy coming in to take over when it was obvious that Satterfield was going to a HC position.

But the entire point is that the "Satterfield has never been successful at any stop" is just a flat out lie. And repeating it over and over won't make it true.
 
I was thinking that about personnel. There is a thread right now (wide receivers) with talk of players being under utilized, and I think it's pretty commonly held that the rb rotation had similar issues.
Yep. Guys like Juju, White and Jones would disappear for games at a time, right after Satterfield himself would say he needed to get them more snaps.
 
My issue with this explanation is that each of those position coaching moves would be considered a demotion. If an OC is also a successful QB coach, you under no circumstances move him to another position.....especially to RB coach which is almost a glorified recruiting position.

Agreed.

Maybe it's a semantics thing. Maybe some people just consider getting demoted as "being successful".
 
My issue with this explanation is that each of those position coaching moves would be considered a demotion. If an OC is also a successful QB coach, you under no circumstances move him to another position.....especially to RB coach which is almost a glorified recruiting position.
Well when he stands up in an interview and says you can’t coach QBs on throwing deep balls or RBs on finding holes it tells you all you need to know about his skill level.
 
Well when he stands up in an interview and says you can’t coach QBs on throwing deep balls or RBs on finding holes it tells you all you need to know about his skill level.

If you are having to teach those things to college players that are about to walk onto the field against SEC teams, you are in a shitload of trouble.
 
Well when he stands up in an interview and says you can’t coach QBs on throwing deep balls or RBs on finding holes it tells you all you need to know about his skill level.

Did he actually say that? I missed it. That is ridiculous if true.
 
If you are having to teach those things to college players that are about to walk onto the field against SEC teams, you are in a shitload of trouble.
Not really. Teaching a RB to have patience and waiting for the play to develop as opposed to hitting a designed spot too early is often taught at the college level. Same as teaching a QB timing and anticipation on passes.

Pure skill will get you further in HS than it will in college. Coaches have to develop those players to learn the finer, less noticeable, skills.
 
Since Satterfield was heavily involved 8n Rattler's recruitment it's easy to see where he will be.

“I told him, ‘Everybody in the country thinks you stink. Everybody in the country thinks I stink. Let’s go at this with the biggest possible chip on our shoulder,'” Satterfield recalled saying, per David Cloninger.
 
Not really. Teaching a RB to have patience and waiting for the play to develop as opposed to hitting a designed spot too early is often taught at the college level. Same as teaching a QB timing and anticipation on passes.

Pure skill will get you further in HS than it will in college. Coaches have to develop those players to learn the finer, less noticeable, skills.

That's more about teach an offense, not the fundamentals. If you have a QB that walks on campus and can't throw the deep ball or a RB that can't find holes, they shouldn't be there.
 
Not really. Teaching a RB to have patience and waiting for the play to develop as opposed to hitting a designed spot too early is often taught at the college level. Same as teaching a QB timing and anticipation on passes.

Pure skill will get you further in HS than it will in college. Coaches have to develop those players to learn the finer, less noticeable, skills.

Agreed.

How often do you hear that young backs have to "Learn patience" or learn to "set up their blocks". It would be nice if they were NFL ready right out of highschool, but that's just unreasonable.
 
That's more about teach an offense, not the fundamentals. If you have a QB that walks on campus and can't throw the deep ball or a RB that can't find holes, they shouldn't be there.
We can disagree. I think those are fundamental skills that have to be taught. They are not speed, power or arm strength which are skills that realistically can't be taught. Many players can overcome their lack of natural ability with good fundamental skills that are coached.
 
We can disagree. I think those are fundamental skills that have to be taught. They are not speed, power or arm strength which are skills that realistically can't be taught. Many players can overcome their lack of natural ability with good fundamental skills that are coached.

I think all that can be taught at some level, but it should happen well before they get to the SEC. There are project players that catch a college coach's eye that are so physically gifted but have no football skills, and they occasionally work out. But they are the exception, not the rule, and rarely worth the time and resources.

I didn't see the entire interview where he made that comment, so I'm not sure of the context in order to fully understand what he meant.
 
We can disagree. I think those are fundamental skills that have to be taught. They are not speed, power or arm strength which are skills that realistically can't be taught. Many players can overcome their lack of natural ability with good fundamental skills that are coached.
I don't know. I have coached in HS (not football) and nothing can replace the God-given natural athletic ability. Yes, good coaching can help a hard-working athlete reach his maximum potential, but it stops there. I can run the same workouts as the olympic gold medalist but I won't come close to their performance.
 
I don't know. I have coached in HS (not football) and nothing can replace the God-given natural athletic ability. Yes, good coaching can help a hard-working athlete reach his maximum potential, but it stops there. I can run the same workouts as the olympic gold medalist but I won't come close to their performance.

But to counter, you can have all the God given talent in the world and fail for lack of practice, effort or understanding your role in the game.

Imo, it's obviously a combination of both that make a good player. You have to have talent, but you have to be taught to play the game, and to practice with effort. But to say that you stop learning about the game in highschool is way off base.
 
But to counter, you can have all the God given talent in the world and fail for lack of practice, effort or understanding your role in the game.

Imo, it's obviously a combination of both that make a good player. You have to have talent, but you have to be taught to play the game, and to practice with effort. But to say that you stop learning about the game in highschool is way off base.
Agree. As I like to say "Hard work beats talent that doesn't work hard." But obviously, one would want to have athletes who are both talented and hard working. But those types aren't exactly plentiful.
 
a 100% healthy doty would definitely be succesful at a school with talent around him. you guys are grasping at straws when trying to explain why our offense sucks. we had 1 frigging receiver, no run game and no pass protection. never enough time to go through any progressions but its all the qbs fault! really? even last year when we had the leading rusher in the sec, we were still at the bottom in overall rushing stats. its way more than the qbs fault. weill rattler do better? he is a senior so i would hope so, but if everything else is the same, yall gonna be sorely disappointed in him
 
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