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So I see the Neil Young leaving Spotify

Why should they do it when Democrats certainly don't do it for their own?

Hold on-

You wrote above that Gosar was "fairly" punished for it - your words.

I explained that Republicans didn't do that- Democrats did. So you think that was fair.

I then said that shouldn't have to happen. Republicans should have been the ones punishing him- but they didn't.

I certainly think if a Democratic Congressperson posted a video of Trump being killed, they should get punished. But I expect Democrats to punish the person, not fail to do so and leave it up to Republicans.
 
While they impeach a President for a "quid pro quo" while running a guy for President who is on video doing the same thing with the same country, and whose crackhead son is running around collecting money from every country in the world that hates us.


so you are changing the subject. Ok

If the House wants to impeach Joe Biden for something his son did, I think they can do that.
 
If you really want to understand, and care, what the far left is trying to do this country you should watch Mark Levin on Fox - "Life, Liberty and Levin." He is also the author of "American Marxism." He lays things out very nicely in terms of the agendas of George Soros and all of the others trying to destroy our country as we have known it. And if anyone is trying to defend Joe Biden after his one disaster after another, of his own doing, then I doubt if there is any hope for you.
 
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Why is Stephanie Grisham not credible?

Why is Alyssa Farrah not credible?

Why is Michael Pillsbury not credible?

and if their accounts aren't credible about him listening to cable news hosts, why did Trump so often confound GOP leaders in the House and Senate by saying one thing on a policy and then backing out after Fox News would come out against something leaving folks like McConnell confused?

Grisham is selling books. Farrah claims he privately admitted defeat, which nobody should believe from Trump. Not a chance in hell that happened.

And Presidents have been out of line with their party in Congress often. We've seen in numerous times with Biden and his recent bills.
 
I like Neil's music but don't care for his politics. Also I'm 44 and doubt many people younger than me listen to him at all so not much of a loss for Spotify. I heard Joni Mitchell is dropping her music too. Boy, who gives a rip?
 
If you really want to understand, and care, what the far left is trying to do this country you should watch Mark Levin on Fox - "Life, Liberty and Levin." He is also the author of "American Marxism." He lays things out very nicely in terms of the agendas of George Soros and all of the others trying to destroy our country as we have known it. And if anyone is trying to defend Joe Biden after his one disaster after another, of his own doing, then I doubt if there is any hope for you.


I think if you are watching anyone on cable news and taking them seriously to the point where you try to learn something from them, you might have a problem. (Levin, Hannity, Maddow, Don Lemon, etc)

I don't watch cable news but I do remember hearing Mark on radio a few times. That is one angry guy. He's going to give himself a stroke.
 
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Hold on-

You wrote above that Gosar was "fairly" punished for it - your words.

I explained that Republicans didn't do that- Democrats did. So you think that was fair.

I then said that shouldn't have to happen. Republicans should have been the ones punishing him- but they didn't.

I certainly think if a Democratic Congressperson posted a video of Trump being killed, they should get punished. But I expect Democrats to punish the person, not fail to do so and leave it up to Republicans.

But Democrats don't do it for themselves, so why should Republicans do it to themselves? Ilhan Omar had posted several offensive tweets and nothing.
 
Grisham is selling books. Farrah claims he privately admitted defeat, which nobody should believe from Trump. Not a chance in hell that happened.

And Presidents have been out of line with their party in Congress often. We've seen in numerous times with Biden and his recent bills.

It's interesting how everyone is lying, except Trump of course. It always seems to work that way.

She is selling books - True. But she could sell a lot of books defending Trump too- I mean quite a few folks have become rich defending him. Think how quick she'd have been offered a job on Fox if she had wrote a book defending him? She'd have a job for years- especially if he runs again. But she didn't do that.

So does this mean people who are selling books are lying? Does this also apply to folks that have defended Trump?

Or maybe he admitted defeat to a few people behind the scenes but realized that he could raise more money with his PAC if he tells people to send in money not for a re-election bid in 4 years- but to "fight and overturn the fraudulent election right now" as he has been doing raising huge sums of money.

Here is is in June 2021 admitting that he didn't win. Maybe it was a slip of the tongue to do it in public.

 
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so you are changing the subject. Ok

If the House wants to impeach Joe Biden for something his son did, I think they can do that.

They should impeach him for lying about not being involved with the people paying his son. But we know the 10% the "big guy" got will never be questioned.

But just like their own Dem member, they will never hold him accountable. It's obvious he and his entire family is compromised.
 
But Democrats don't do it for themselves, so why should Republicans do it to themselves? Ilhan Omar had posted several offensive tweets and nothing.


I said that.

But you said he was fairly punished above. I pointed out Republicans didn't do that.

So you admitted Democrats fairly punished him.

I don't think Democrats should have done that. Republicans should have.
 
I am totally with you on people having the right to choose. They can choose to leave and Spotify can choose to let them go. It’s called a free world. Do you know what’s really funny, I’ll bet if you asked them what they disagreed with Joe Rogan about, they probably couldn’t tell you. Maybe they believe there should be vaccine mandates, and Rogan doesn’t. Maybe they believe in strict gun control, and Joe doesn’t . But on most things Rogan would be considered a Kennedy democrat. So again it perplexes me that this is even an issue but to each his own.
We disagree with spreading disinformation that is contributing to the worsening/lengthening of the pandemic.
 
They should impeach him for lying about not being involved with the people paying his son. But we know the 10% the "big guy" got will never be questioned.

But just like their own Dem member, they will never hold him accountable. It's obvious he and his entire family is compromised.


Hold on- if there is evidence of that- then they can impeach him- and certainly will impeach him for that if the GOP takes over the House in November.

So you are in favor of impeaching a President for lying about "not being involved" with someone paying a son/daughter?

That's your position? Just making sure.
 
I said that.

But you said he was fairly punished above. I pointed out Republicans didn't do that.

So you admitted Democrats fairly punished him.

I don't think Democrats should have done that. Republicans should have.

Democrats don't punish their own and force Republicans to do it? Why should Republicans to do any differently in a highly toxic political environment?
 
Democrats don't punish their own and force Republicans to do it? Why should Republicans to do any differently in a highly toxic political environment?


So Democrats don't punish their own when one of them posts a video of the killing of a President or colleague (and maybe one did post that I just don't remember that) so Republicans shouldn't do it either.

But you posted that Republican member Gosar was "fairly punished" by Democrats when he posted such a video.

still trying to comprehend this logic here.
 
Rollerdee, it's been like half an hour and you have conveniently ignored the article that was posted about Sellers running for that seat. You know, the stuff that I was "just making it up?" Here, I'll quote something from the article.

"But after Jennifer Clyburn Reed suggested she’s eyeing the seat, Sellers said he’s already putting himself in position to hit the ground running as soon as it opens up, escalating his long-held interest in the job."

“With Jennifer Reed making the moves that she’s making, I think it would be political malpractice for me not to be getting prepared to run for office and run for the 6th Congressional District,” Sellers said.
 
It's interesting how everyone is lying, except Trump of course. It always seems to work that way.

She is selling books - True. But she could sell a lot of books defending Trump too- I mean quite a few folks have become rich defending him. Think how quick she'd have been offered a job on Fox if she had wrote a book defending him? She'd have a job for years- especially if he runs again. But she didn't do that.

So does this mean people who are selling books are lying? Does this also apply to folks that have defended Trump?

Or maybe he admitted defeat to a few people behind the scenes but realized that he could raise more money with his PAC if he tells people to send in money not for a re-election bid in 4 years- but to "fight and overturn the fraudulent election right now" as he has been doing raising huge sums of money.

Here is is in June 2021 admitting that he didn't win. Maybe it was a slip of the tongue to do it in public.


That wasn't an admission that he really lost. That was just another way of saying he was cheated.

If you want a truthful slip of the tongue, here a good one. Biden admits to voter fraud.

 
So Democrats don't punish their own when one of them posts a video of the killing of a President or colleague (and maybe one did post that I just don't remember that) so Republicans shouldn't do it either.

But you posted that Republican member Gosar was "fairly punished" by Democrats when he posted such a video.

still trying to comprehend this logic here.

Pretty simple. Dems punishing Republicans but not their own is hypocritical.
 
Here, I'll quote something from the article.

"But after Jennifer Clyburn Reed suggested she’s eyeing the seat, Sellers said he’s already putting himself in position to hit the ground running as soon as it opens up, escalating his long-held interest in the job."

“With Jennifer Reed making the moves that she’s making, I think it would be political malpractice for me not to be getting prepared to run for office and run for the 6th Congressional District,” Sellers said.

I saw the article from 2019. That's not new. I'll just say it this way. I might know something about Bakari's thinking that has changed. That's all I'll say about this. Thus, my post.
 
I saw the article from 2019. That's not new. I'll just say it this way. I might know something about Bakari's thinking that has changed. That's all I'll say about this. Thus, my post.
Roller, you said "He's never said anything about running for that office..."

Then you accused me of making it up.

That has nothing to do with what you may or may not know now.
 
Hold on- if there is evidence of that- then they can impeach him- and certainly will impeach him for that if the GOP takes over the House in November.

So you are in favor of impeaching a President for lying about "not being involved" with someone paying a son/daughter?

That's your position? Just making sure.

There are text and emails and business associates that have stated this. And there are pictures of Biden with the same folks he claimed he never met.

And there is video of his bragging about a quid pro quo while he was VP. That too involved protecting a company that his son was getting paid million from.

And lets not getting started on all the money from China and Russia. To a crackhead that admitted he wouldn't have gotten if his Dad didn't have influence.
 
you said "He's never said anything about running for that office..."

Then you accused me of making it up.

That has nothing to do with what you may or may not know now.

Your right. I did say it and I was wrong- obviously.

But I also know that his thinking has changed. But time will tell.
 
There are text and emails and business associates that have stated this. And there are pictures of Biden with the same folks he claimed he never met.

And there is video of his bragging about a quid pro quo while he was VP. That too involved protecting a company that his son was getting paid million from.

And lets not getting started on all the money from China and Russia. To a crackhead that admitted he wouldn't have gotten if his Dad didn't have influence.

Right, but if we are going to impeach Presidents over lies about people they claim they haven't met, is that also fair for Trump and Republicans? I hope so.

I think we are going to have to agree to disagree on your characterizations of the facts.

But if they impeach Biden, that's perfectly fine with me. I mean I really don't care either way. I am not biden supporter. I am not a trump supporter. I am not a supporter of the Democratic Party or the Republican Party.

If the standard is money from China, places like Saudi Arabia, Russia, etc - then it's going to be interesting to see who could run and win office.
 
Neil Young sold half of his worldwide copyrights to Hipgnosis last year for what's believed to be around $50 million. Months later, the Blackstone Group invested $1 billion in Hipgnosis in exchange for an ownership stake. Anyone who does a cursory Google search can find out the evils of the Blackstone Group. So Neil Young can virtue signal about Joe Rogan all he wants, but his songs are now owned by the Darth Vader of multi-national corporations. So much for "This note's for you". The guy is an absolute hypocrite.
 
Neil Young sold half of his worldwide copyrights to Hipgnosis last year for what's believed to be around $50 million. Months later, the Blackstone Group invested $1 billion in Hipgnosis in exchange for an ownership stake. Anyone who does a cursory Google search can find out the evils of the Blackstone Group. So Neil Young can virtue signal about Joe Rogan all he wants, but his songs are now owned by the Darth Vader of multi-national corporations. So much for "This note's for you". The guy is an absolute hypocrite.


How would that be Neil's responsibility though? I mean I know nothing about his music.

He sells something to a business- and then that business is bought by someone else - - how does that reflect on the original owner and make him a hypocrite?

How is he supposed to control the business that he sells his work to?

I mean Blackstone owns a ton of things. Certainly not everyone that sold something to a company that Blackstone ended up buying is a hypocrite if they don't agree with their politics or approach.
 
So it's also hypocritical for Republicans too since they didn't punish Gosar, but want Democrats to punish their own, correct?

This works both ways, right?

Not really. When one side refuses to do it for their own. it shouldn't surprise anybody that the other side follows suit.
 
How would that be Neil's responsibility though? I mean I know nothing about his music.

He sells something to a business- and then that business is bought by someone else - - how does that reflect on the original owner and make him a hypocrite?

How is he supposed to control the business that he sells his work to?
Young has made his living pretending to be a counterculture/hippie icon. He then sells half his copyrights to a group who purchases said interest with money from venture capitalists and investment/financial firms. He's the very thing he's claimed to fighting against his entire life, which is par for the course for champagne socialists.
 
Not really. When one side refuses to do it for their own. it shouldn't surprise anybody that the other side follows suit.

Ok. So Republicans not punishing their own side but expecting Democrats to punish their own is not hypocritical.

But Democrats not punishing their own but expecting Republicans to punish their own is hypocritical.

But, per you, it was "fair" for Democrats to punish Republican Paul Gosar.

It must be interesting to walk around expecting others to do something you don't hold yourself too- but then call it "fair" when the other side does do something you don't expect your own side to do.

Now some of your other posts make sense. I think that explains why you defend your own side so much and aren't willing to extend that same grace to anyone else. It's always about the other folks.
 
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Young has made his living pretending to be a counterculture/hippie icon. He then sells half his copyrights to a group who purchases said interest with money from venture capitalists and investment/financial firms. He's the very thing he's claimed to fighting against his entire life, which is par for the course for champagne socialists.

I get that- but you are holding him to being responsible for the decisions that the company that bought the rights to his music made after they had the rights to his music.

That seems like an impossible standard for anyone to uphold. It seems we are expecting him to be responsible for something that would be impossible to be in control of in the first place just because you might not agree with his views.

If I choose to sell my BMW from high school that I've had for 30 years and took great care of to someone that tells me they will take care of it- and then someone comes along and buys it again and they decide to just let it sit and rot, I mean I could blame myself for selling it in the first place but I don't think it would be fair for people to blame me for the fact it's sitting and rotting.
 
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Ok. So Republicans not punishing their own side but expecting Democrats to punish their own is not hypocritical.

But Democrats not punishing their own but expecting Republicans to punish their own is hypocritical.

But, per you, it was "fair" for Democrats to punish Republican Paul Gosar.

It must be interesting to walk around expecting others to do something you don't hold yourself too- but then call it "fair" when the other side does do something you don't expect your own side to do.

Now some of your other posts make sense. I think that explains why you defend your own side so much and aren't willing to extend that same grace to anyone else.

I never said I "expected" them to do it. Just that it was a fair punishment for what he did, regardless of who did it.

It's like you telling your neighbor that their kid stole a cookie out of your cookie jar, and they refused to punish their kid for it.

But then, when your kid steals a cookie out of their cookie jar, they demand you punish your own kid, and when you don't, they proceed to do it themselves.
 
I never said I "expected" them to do it. Just that it was a fair punishment for what he did, regardless of who did it.

It's like you telling your neighbor that their kid stole a cookie out of your cookie jar, and they refused to punish their kid for it.

But then, when your kid steals a cookie out of their cookie jar, they demand you punish your own kid, and when you don't, they proceed to do it themselves.

Sure
but the fact that I didn't punish my kid for stealing should be the story there, not that they had to something they should never have to do.

Someone in this process has to act like an adult and do what we preach to our children - " Do the right thing, regardless of what your friends do"

Right now, we are in a situation where neither Republicans or Democrats are willing to do the right thing.
 
Sure
but the fact that I didn't punish my kid for stealing should be the story there, not that they had to something they should never have to do.

Someone in this process has to act like an adult and do what we preach to our children - " Do the right thing, regardless of what your friends do"

Right now, we are in a situation where neither Republicans or Democrats are willing to do the right thing.

So, you are fine with your neighbor punishing your kid for something they wouldn't punish their own kid for, even if the punishment was a fair punishment for what he did?
 
And then, after you willingly punish your kid, your neighbor uses that punishment to bash your kid to everyone he tries to get to like him, while telling those same kids how wonderful his kid is because he has never been punished and how they should like him instead.
 
I like Neil's music but don't care for his politics. Also I'm 44 and doubt many people younger than me listen to him at all so not much of a loss for Spotify. I heard Joni Mitchell is dropping her music too. Boy, who gives a rip?
I have no intention of getting in on this debate, but to answer your question.
Spotify lost more than 12% during Fridays trading session (which equates to about 2 Billion). So apparently investors do.
So take it up with the investors, if anyone has any issues with that.
Ok, carry on.
 
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I honestly don’t care which side you’re on, if you support Neil fine, if you support Joe fine, but I will say someone close to me was definitely in the latter camp, and the “jabs” (God, I had that description) may not have helped him, but we’ll never know as he passed on Christmas with lungs as hard as bricks. That’s the danger of people who are easily influenced and listen to someone who has “free speech “ to spread dangerous info….2 years in I still think the vast majority of the population doesn’t understand 1A at all. But anyway, the other thing is, don’t make up ridiculous statements to support your position either. This guy I went to HS with (c/o 1991) posted last week, I barely know who Neil is, or this other group he was a part of. Beyotch, stop lying. While they may not be the Dead or Zep, which our age group was hugely into back then, you know good and damn well who Neil Young, and Crosby, Stills, & Nash are.
 
I applaud Spotify for their response/reaction to Neil Young's ultimatum. On the other hand, if Joe Rogan had made the same one about Neil, I'd hope Spotify reacted the same way. Meaning, show Rogan the door. I just respect a person or company that doesn't cave to ridiculous demands like this. With the current cancel culture you don't see enough of that any more.
 
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