TCU OC to Clemson?
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You could be right. I do not know. What I do know is that I would trust Steve Spurrier's talent evaluation of recruits long before I would trust Muschamp's. The records, history and achievements (and lack of) of both side-by-side supports that assessment. In addition to finishing in the Top 25, Beamer did something never done before here, even by the great Steve Spurrier: beat 2 Top 10 teams in one season. And Beamer exceeded win expectations by 3 wins each of his 2 seasons here. I doubt the same thing could be said about Muschamp. If you cannot win at Florida of all places, that does not speak well of your coaching abilities. Will Muschamp is a proven loser as Head Coach (but not as a contract negotiator). I would not be defending his Head Coaching abilities. But, that's me.
We dropped the U of crap so the name is USC. We beat clemsuck because of one reason and that was because USC was better. Two common opponents and a head to head win on their home field closes that discussion. If you want to change history and play a different QB we do too and we can undo every mistake we made in the game. USC was two TD‘s better.
I’m not looking to change history instead the point was losing to you guys this past year was the nail in the coffin offensively along with the Orange bowl offensive performance for Brandon Streeter. Y’all earned the win this past year and was the better team on that day! Our offense performance that day is a big reason for Garrett Riley now being our OC period! “ USC was two TD’s better? “ the score was 31-30 gamecocks , y’all were the better team that day!
UofSC fans heads have gotten so big because of a one point win over the worst team Clemson has had in about 10 years. They will never win that vaulted SEC championship and beating Clemson will always mean more to them. Their overall football history is sorry and they will forever be envious of Clemson's overall success.
I tend to like our recent history (the 31 - 30 part). Sorry it gets under your skin so much, but you'll just have to live with it for a while. Got a feeling this rivalry will be a lot more interesting in the next few years, but I'm guessing you wouldn't agree.
Especially with our new OC’s. Garrett Riley vs Dowell Loggains.
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South Carolina has SEC money also and the Riley, Beamer connection to boot. Beamer had time after Satterfeild left to gauge Garrett’s interest in being the OC for y’all. Was Garrett one of the top coaches that Beamer was adamant about that was reaching out to him because of their interest in being Carolina’s OC? Money does talk.
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Just like there are Carolina fans on tiger net. That’s as much a part of college football as the first down.
A&M is a dumpster fire. Why would you go there. The optics coming from there look awful.
It’s only a “rivalry” again if we are competitive next year. If Riley beats us, last year just becomes a fluke.
I am referring to the back and forth between the fans. That has been missing because they beat us for so many consecutive years.
Actually it doesn't get under my skin at all! Y'all are funny to me because your program has never been relevant....EVER!
It's only a rivalry to UofSC fans! 72-43-4 says otherwise....catch up!! Win your conference..the one you're so proud of being a member of but are really just a welfare team!
You missed my point. I was referring to the internet talk between both sides. I never imagined how difficult my post would be to comprehend. Maybe instead of using the word "rivalry", I should have said "internet war of words", although that comes off destructive and hateful rather than friendly.
And if you read what I posted earlier, I acknowledged how difficult it is to win the SEC, which most college football observers consider the toughest and best in the nation. That is why I followed that up saying therefore my goal for Beamer will be to annually make the 12-team playoff. A backtested study showed that Carolina would have made the playoff 2 times during the Spurrier era if the 12-team playoff structure had been around back then. Thus, that goal is VERY doable for Carolina.
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Yet here you are. Lol.
I imagine the 7 losses in a row on an A&M team stacked with talent didn't help. But Fisher is an offensive guy who probably mettles more than Dabo, who is more the CEO style HC. OC's don't like interference.
I'd love to see the criteria for this backtested study. Was it based on all teams at that time or was it based on those UofSC teams with current era teams? I think we would all agree that the top 12 teams from the Spurrier era is quite different from even, say this year's top 12. TCU definitely wasn't in the mix back in Spurrier's days.
Honestly, I do not know. It was done by the people who run the On3 site. They probably used the criteria that will be used in a couple of years. I'm guessing from there they ranked where the teams from back then would fall if a 12-team playoff was in effect at that time. That's comparing apples to apples.
Spurrier left left the football program an absolute cluster f***. We can be proud of what Spurrier did, but for what he left, he should be paying USC back his last two years salary. Absolutely criminal to accept a paycheck for what he had going on. Whoever took over was starting from nothing. Mushamp was not the guy to take over to rebuild and everyone should knew it except for Tanner and our BoT who approved his moronic hire.
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I've said the same about Spurrier. He quit working two years before he left. We were a wreck when he did leave. Could have been great.
Spurrier's biggest mistake was letting Shane Beamer go without a huge fight and huge raise and replacing him with Spurrier, Jr as recruiting coordinator. Spurrier assumed anyone could do the job. He was wrong.
Beamer was an excellent recruiting coordinator. He could easily cite mom, dad, and grandma's name for the recruits and he was a great organizer of the recruiting effort.
Spurrier thought he could just put anyone in that role and chose Spurrier, Jr- a man who admitted publicly soon after that he didn't like talking on the phone. What a dumb thing to say.
Recruiting immediately went down in terms of relationships with high school coaches and recruits.
He really put up a great score against the dawgs in that championship game.
Well he hung 51 on Michigan, no one else scored more than 27. Even Ohio State only scored 23.
Which goes to show the folly of judging on a single game vs a season or seasons.
There's a reason we wanted him.
