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The Pat's are under investigation for Deflating the ball...

"At one point the officials took a ball out of play and weighed it." So they weigh the balls to see if they have enough air? Seems to me, that might not work.
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Originally posted by cockmon:
"At one point the officials took a ball out of play and weighed it." So they weigh the balls to see if they have enough air? Seems to me, that might not work.
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Why not?
 
The great Mooney Player deflated footballs to make passes easier to catch and overinflated them for the kicking game many years ago when he coached at Lower Richland High School! He once offered to coach South Carolina and asked only to be paid when he won a game.
 
This is stupid. Both teams use the same footballs so there is no competitive advantage. It's not like college where each team gets to use their preferred footballs.
 
sure.... .Blount wouldn't of run over the Colts for 148 yds and 3 td's if the football had a little more air in it... what a bunch of crap... move on...45-7
 
Originally posted by cockmon:
"At one point the officials took a ball out of play and weighed it." So they weigh the balls to see if they have enough air? Seems to me, that might not work.
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Could it mean weighing it based on PSI?

NFL balls are supposed to have 12.5 to 13.5 pounds.
 
Originally posted by gamecocks_10:
This is stupid. Both teams use the same footballs so there is no competitive advantage. It's not like college where each team gets to use their preferred footballs.
I think you're wrong on this... If you run a passing route and the QB grips the ball and if it fills funny on your hand, then the pass will not get to the WR on time or maybe the pass is over thrown for an INT...


Luck was 12-33, 126 yards with 2 INT. Brady was 23-35, 226 yards with 3 TD's , 1 INT.
 
Originally posted by gamecocks_10:
This is stupid. Both teams use the same footballs so there is no competitive advantage. It's not like college where each team gets to use their preferred footballs.
Actually both teams furnish their own balls. It seems it would be extremely hard for the Pats to deflate the Colts' balls.
 
Originally posted by world famous 3rd base hecklers:


Originally posted by gamecocks_10:
This is stupid. Both teams use the same footballs so there is no competitive advantage. It's not like college where each team gets to use their preferred footballs.
I think you're wrong on this... If you run a passing route and the QB grips the ball and if it fills funny on your hand, then the pass will not get to the WR on time or maybe the pass is over thrown for an INT...


Luck was 12-33, 126 yards with 2 INT. Brady was 23-35, 226 yards with 3 TD's , 1 INT.
Poster is not wrong, both teams use the same football
 
From NFL.com



Section 2

BALL SUPPLY


Each team will make 12 primary balls available for testing by the Referee two hours and 15 minutes prior to the starting time of

the game to meet League requirements. The home team will also make 12 backup balls available for testing in all

stadiums. In addition, the visitors, at their discretion, may bring 12 backup balls to be tested by the Referee for games

held in outdoor stadiums. For games in outdoor stadiums, eight new footballs, sealed in a special box and shipped by the

manufacturer to the Referee, will be opened in the officials' locker room two hours and 15 minutes prior to the starting

time of the game. These balls are to be specially marked by the Referee and used exclusively for the kicking game. For

games in indoor stadiums, six new footballs will be shipped.

In the event a home team ball does not conform to specifications, or its supply is exhausted, the Referee shall secure a proper

ball from the visitors and, failing that, use the best available ball. Any such circumstances must be reported to the

Commissioner.

In case of rain or a wet, muddy, or slippery field, a playable ball shall be used at the request of the offensive team's center.

The Game Clock shall not stop for such action (unless undue delay occurs).

Note: It is the responsibility
 
Yep. Both teams provide footballs but the footballs used are the same ones for both teams. No advantage to the Pats if the balls were under inflated.
 
Originally posted by bosoxcock:
Originally posted by world famous 3rd base hecklers:


Originally posted by gamecocks_10:
This is stupid. Both teams use the same footballs so there is no competitive advantage. It's not like college where each team gets to use their preferred footballs.
I think you're wrong on this... If you run a passing route and the QB grips the ball and if it fills funny on your hand, then the pass will not get to the WR on time or maybe the pass is over thrown for an INT...


Luck was 12-33, 126 yards with 2 INT. Brady was 23-35, 226 yards with 3 TD's , 1 INT.
Poster is not wrong, both teams use the same football
Have you ever played with deflated balls????
 
Originally posted by bhsrebel:

It looked to me like the Pats were guilty of deflating the Colts.
Colts were playing over their heads before they played the Pats...


With the news about the Pats will make it easy to pull against them for the Seahawks...
 
Originally posted by WebInFront:

Originally posted by cockmon:
"At one point the officials took a ball out of play and weighed it." So they weigh the balls to see if they have enough air? Seems to me, that might not work.
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Why not?
Ideal Gas Law: PV=nRT [Pressure * Volume = n (number of molecules) * R (physical constant) * Temperature (C or K)

In a football, since the volume of an inflated ball is constant and it is inflated to a specified presure, the amount of air in the ball is directly proportional to the Temperature. A correctly inflated football on a cold day would be heavier than a correctly inflated football on a warm day. You could not use a scale to weigh the ball to see if its inflated correctly, but you could use a pressure guage.
 
"Deflating footballs would theoretically have made it easier for Brady, who completed 23 of 35 passes for 226 yards and three touchdowns, to throw and for his receivers to catch in the bad weather of Sunday's game in Foxboro. But it also should have benefited Colts' quarterback Andrew Luck, who had a miserable game, completing 12 of 33 passes for a mere 126 yards."

"According to NFL rules, home teams are required to provide 36 balls for outdoor games and make the balls available for testing with a pressure gauge prior to the game."
 
Originally posted by NaturalGC7:



"Deflating footballs would theoretically have made it easier for Brady, who completed 23 of 35 passes for 226 yards and three touchdowns, to throw and for his receivers to catch in the bad weather of Sunday's game in Foxboro. But it also should have benefited Colts' quarterback Andrew Luck, who had a miserable game, completing 12 of 33 passes for a mere 126 yards."

"According to NFL rules, home teams are required to provide 36 balls for outdoor games and make the balls available for testing with a pressure gauge prior to the game."
For the record.................That NFL rule you and at least a fox news writer state about " home team providing 36 balls" is completely false.








This post was edited on 1/19 5:29 PM by bosoxcock
 
Originally posted by gamecocks_10:
This is stupid. Both teams use the same footballs so there is no competitive advantage. It's not like college where each team gets to use their preferred footballs.
yeah, but i heard new england practice with it and the colts didnt
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The only advantage for the Pats would be Brady and the receivers would get a better grip in the wet weather. That might help the RB's grip the ball better also. If each team provided it's own ball, then the Colts would be at a disadvantage. Would it be enough to change the game, doubtful.
 
The only footballs that are used by both teams are the ones marked for kicking. If the Pats were on offense they used their footballs and the Colts used their own when on offense. Each team has a their own logo or mark to designate which are theirs. If the refs had thought something was wrong with the Pats footballs they could have made them use the Colts.

Same as college each team furnishes their own footballs to use on offense, however, in college you can also furnish the footballs you kick.
 
Originally posted by Kmart84:
The only footballs that are used by both teams are the ones marked for kicking. If the Pats were on offense they used their footballs and the Colts used their own when on offense. Each team has a their own logo or mark to designate which are theirs. If the refs had thought something was wrong with the Pats footballs they could have made them use the Colts.

Same as college each team furnishes their own footballs to use on offense, however, in college you can also furnish the footballs you kick.
This post was edited on 1/19 6:54 PM by bosoxcock
 
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