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"...if the Executive Branch has limited control over the bureaucracy, and if Congress and the Judiciary are compromised by conflicts of interest driven by NGOs, then governance is no longer by "We The People." Instead, it has become a self-serving global power struggle—a Game of Thrones rather than a republic."
 
It's telling that the only countries who believe this are Russia, Belarus, North Korea, Netanyahu and Trump...

Sadly, she'll land a gig on The View pulling in about $10 Million a year.
They can’t hire every lib loser. The building will collapse. I wouldn’t be surprised to see the view getting canceled as well. It’s all done. Liberal bridge has fallen down. For good
 
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Shocker you were wrong yet again.

Wrong. The RFI for this came out April 23rd of last year under the Biden administration. It was tied to their crazy 2035 zero emission goals that aren't going to happen no matter who is President.

Here's a link to it on the Federal government's acquisition website.

https://sam.gov/opp/bb1ac5870df5485ab090216dc8fe0511/view

This was clearly started under Biden. Trump and Musk had NOTHING to do with it. You've been fooled again.
 
Wrong. The RFI for this came out April 23rd of last year under the Biden administration. It was tied to their crazy 2035 zero emission goals that aren't going to happen no matter who is President.

Here's a link to it on the Federal government's acquisition website.

https://sam.gov/opp/bb1ac5870df5485ab090216dc8fe0511/view

This was clearly started under Biden. Trump and Musk had NOTHING to do with it. You've been fooled again.

Did you read the NPR article? It clearly would have explained this to you if you had read it.
 
Did you read the NPR article? It clearly would have explained this to you if you had read it.

It explained nothing. It made ZERO sense. The RFI CLEARLY states that it is for armored vehicles., and there is NO WAY they were only going to spend $483,000 on those vehicles like their other rando, unrelated "document" stated. That's ridiculous. They were planning to buy thousands of EVs just like they have already bought thousands of EVs, and $400 million is clearly a more reasonable estimate. Not to mention the document that had the $400 million in it was last edited on December 13, 2024.

100% on Biden. Trump and Elon had NOTHING to do with it.
 
It explained nothing. It made ZERO sense. The RFI CLEARLY states that it is for armored vehicles., and there is NO WAY they were only going to spend $483,000 on those vehicles like their other rando, unrelated "document" stated. That's ridiculous. They were planning to buy thousands of EVs just like they have already bought thousands of EVs, and $400 million is clearly a more reasonable estimate. Not to mention the document that had the $400 million in it was last edited on December 13, 2024.

100% on Biden. Trump and Elon had NOTHING to do with it.

Then provide some documentation to support this opinion. NPR actually provided documents to support theirs.
 
And Biden thru hundreds of billions at green energy projects. The thought that, if reelected, that they were only going to spend less than $500,000 on EVs for the government is something only a total mindless idiot would believe.
 
And Biden thru hundreds of billions at green energy projects. The thought that, if reelected, that they were only going to spend less than $500,000 on EVs for the government is something only a total mindless idiot would believe.
The fact that Hertz dumped most of their EVs tells us a lot about the future of those cars. The CEO was all in on EVs and almost put the company in bankruptcy as a result.
 
The fact that Hertz dumped most of their EVs tells us a lot about the future of those cars. The CEO was all in on EVs and almost put the company in bankruptcy as a result.

That's not going to happen. I know some of you hate them - until you drive one and have one and folks tend to really like them.

Some of you are going to have to realize a tough fact: EVs are coming and will be a dominant player in the market in the near future.

Despite a wave of doubters, the electric vehicle revolution is still going strong. Per the latest report by Cox Automotive, 2025 will be the strongest year for the auto industry since before the pandemic.

The firm has a positive prognosis for the auto industry in 2025. "With 2024 finishing on a high note, Cox Automotive is optimistic about 2025, with plenty of reasons to believe it will be the best year since 2019," said Cox's chief economist, Jonathan Smoke.

 
EV’s are a joke! The liberals that complain about the environment, should see what happens to dig up the resources for these stupid vehicles.

I dont think they've fallen as far as "joke" status. But I am very curious to see how they spread in the market without being forced artificially.
 
EV’s are a joke! The liberals that complain about the environment, should see what happens to dig up the resources for these stupid vehicles.
EV’s are done. Nobody in the mainstream can afford to lose 50-100k every 5-7 years for a glorified golf cart. Hell at least a golf cart has resale value after 10 years.
 
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The gov’t officials and Hollywooders that complain about fossil fuel energy and its pollution are burning more fuel and polluting the planet more on one trip to their vacations homes than I burn in years. They don’t practice what they preach. I think they ought to fly in battery operated airplanes.
 
Yeah you can call me surprised if there is an increase in sales after govt subsidies are terminated.

That's going to be solved by the car makers introducing more and more affordable EVs, the cost will be lower than gas powered vehicles on average. That's mentioned in one of the articles I linked above.

The tech investment is all in EVs and batteries. Cheaper options, longer ranges are on the horizon. The tech is advancing faster and faster. The engineers being hired and sought after are all working on these types of vehicles.

 
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I dont think they've fallen as far as "joke" status. But I am very curious to see how they spread in the market without being forced artificially.
I personally don’t care for EV’s as it increases your light bill drastically and puts a major strain on the power grid. I don’t mind the hybrids, but all electric is ridiculous.
 
EV’s are done. Nobody in the mainstream can afford to lose 50-100k every 5-7 years for a glorified golf cart. Hell at least a golf cart has resale value after 10 years.
Car dealers make their money on parts/service. There is very little parts and service on EV's. They won't survive just off of the profit when the car is sold.
 
That's going to be solved by the car makers introducing more and more affordable EVs, the cost will be lower than gas powered vehicles on average. That's mentioned in one of the articles I linked above.

The tech investment is all in EVs and batteries. Cheaper options, longer ranges are on the horizon. The tech is advancing faster and faster. The engineers being hired and sought after are all working on these types of vehicles.

The vehicle itself may be a little cheaper than a similar IC version but you have to pay for your fuel up front. EV's will be a toy for years unless the Govt forces us to drive them. Then we'd all be screwed.
 
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That's going to be solved by the car makers introducing more and more affordable EVs, the cost will be lower than gas powered vehicles on average. That's mentioned in one of the articles I linked above.

The tech investment is all in EVs and batteries. Cheaper options, longer ranges are on the horizon. The tech is advancing faster and faster. The engineers being hired and sought after are all working on these types of vehicles.

it is certainly possible EVs will lower their prices once the govt gets out of it's way and cuts off funds... they may have to. Subsidies tend to make things more expensive because they allow them to be. A low demand could also lower prices. We will see what happens if the demand increases. I'll say this, if I were to invest in such ventures, I'd do it on hybrids. That is more of a vehicle for everyone. Full on EVs definitely are not.
 
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it is certainly possible EVs will lower their prices once the govt gets out of it's way and cuts off funds... they may have to. Subsidies tend to make things more expensive because they allow them to be. A low demand could also lower prices. We will see what happens if the demand increases. I'll say this, if I were to invest in such ventures, I'd do it on hybrids. That is more of a vehicle for everyone. Full on EVs definitely are not.
Toyota solved this decades ago. It’s called a Prius. The game was over at that point. Hybrids were the answer pure and simple. Just ask yourself this one question. Why would I opt for a single power source for 3 times the price over a dual powered vehicle that never leaves you stranded and has a range of over 600 miles vs 250 on warm days. It’s ridiculous. Game was over at that point. Government used this ev, fake green bs to steal taxpayer cash. It’s so oblivious
 
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Toyota solved this decades ago. It’s called a Prius. The game was over at that point. Hybrids were the answer pure and simple. Just ask yourself this one question. Why would I opt for a single power source for 3 times the price over a dual powered vehicle that never leaves you stranded and has a range of over 600 miles vs 250 on warm days. It’s ridiculous. Game was over at that point. Government used this ev, fake green bs to steal taxpayer cash. It’s so oblivious
I have mentioned this in the past, as someone blocks off the Atlantic ocean I am almost always one of the first subject to evacuations when they are announced. It would be foolish and irresponsible of me to when the orders are given for a mandatory evacuation, to hop in an full blown EV and along with hundreds of thousands of other people moving at a snails pace and expect to get out of the way of a hurricane. Not to mention if Biden's govt had it's way, having thousands of EVs looking for a charging station in the same general area at the same time not very far from your starting point because you have barely moving for hours. Blows the mind how issues like this matters very little to the greenies as long as they get their way.
 
The vehicle itself may be a little cheaper than a similar IC version but you have to pay for your fuel up front. EV's will be a toy for years unless the Govt forces us to drive them. Then we'd all be screwed.

More and more people are considering EVs. It's where all the research and development is going.

EVs aren't even a toy for a lot of people now. More and more are on the road right here in South Carolina.

I think a lot of people would be surprised at how many Greenville/Spartanburg engineering and tech firms are working for car customers all over the world on EV and advanced battery projects.
 
it is certainly possible EVs will lower their prices once the govt gets out of it's way and cuts off funds... they may have to. Subsidies tend to make things more expensive because they allow them to be. A low demand could also lower prices. We will see what happens if the demand increases. I'll say this, if I were to invest in such ventures, I'd do it on hybrids. That is more of a vehicle for everyone. Full on EVs definitely are not.

Car companies are developing cheaper EV cars- as they produce more and more of them- and more and more options become available. It's where they are putting a lot of their money at- not $50,000 cars- but $30,000 options.

Plus, as typically happens, they will get better at making those and they will producing more attractive options at a wide price range.

EVs on the road today, for the most part, have not had various options like their gas counterparts.

A consumer buying a gas Chevy Equinox could always buy one of 4-5 different models. For a consumer looking for an EV, they had one option.

That's changing. EVs are now starting to be rolled out that have 3-4-5 options within the same type car- just like their gas alternatives. That gives the consumer a lot of choices for an EV- the cheaper version or the platinum version of the very same car.

They aren't counting on tax credits. it's not like Trump's views on EVs snuck up on them. They've been planning for him to attack the industry for several years now.

Hybrids are for sure part of the strategy. lots of folks already own them. But EVs are the future whether people like it or not (most people are going to really like it, especially younger people).

I don't want to state the obvious too much but the EV research and development and focus of the industry is not on 60+ year olds.
 
I have mentioned this in the past, as someone blocks off the Atlantic ocean I am almost always one of the first subject to evacuations when they are announced. It would be foolish and irresponsible of me to when the orders are given for a mandatory evacuation, to hop in an full blown EV and along with hundreds of thousands of other people moving at a snails pace and expect to get out of the way of a hurricane. Not to mention if Biden's govt had it's way, having thousands of EVs looking for a charging station in the same general area at the same time not very far from your starting point because you have barely moving for hours. Blows the mind how issues like this matters very little to the greenies as long as they get their way.

EVs are more efficient "idling" in traffic than combustion engines. So like most of your posts, this hypothetical is just nonsense.

As long as your car is fully charged before the hurricane, you will be fine getting to safety.
 
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I have mentioned this in the past, as someone blocks off the Atlantic ocean I am almost always one of the first subject to evacuations when they are announced. It would be foolish and irresponsible of me to when the orders are given for a mandatory evacuation, to hop in an full blown EV and along with hundreds of thousands of other people moving at a snails pace and expect to get out of the way of a hurricane. Not to mention if Biden's govt had it's way, having thousands of EVs looking for a charging station in the same general area at the same time not very far from your starting point because you have barely moving for hours. Blows the mind how issues like this matters very little to the greenies as long as they get their way.

Extended range EVs are right around the corner and will be standard fare in the next 5-6 years. Solid state batteries will increase range by hundreds of miles. These are in development now.

BMW is working on and is pushing smart ev battery technology that is way far advanced than anything in a current car. They will not only double EV range (or more) but also make it much safer.

Wireless charging is also promising and will likely eventually solve most of these issues.

There are also other alternatives under development that would allow a consumer to have a meaningful battery charger in a small backpack that would give them hundreds of miles of range should they want to purchase one. (These are available now in smaller configurations).
 
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