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Well, our Poor

Since the crackdown roughly 80% of 1,600 millionaires with overdue taxes have paid up, providing an additional $1.1 billion in taxes.

That represents an increase of $100 million since July 2024, when the IRS noted it had recovered $1 billion from this group of taxpayers who had failed to file and pay their required taxes for years.


https://www.cbsnews.com/news/irs-recovered-1-3-billion-unpaid-taxes-wealthy-taxpayers-audits/

The IRS is likely going to be abolished.

That will be another sweet thing to add to your laundry list of losses.

I'm having to use Cloud Storage now to store them all. :)
 
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Let's start keeping track with "Gomer's L Of The Day."

Many to choose from -- but I'll go with this one as I'm biased. :)

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Position:

"Billionaires pay all the taxes"


Proposal:

Increase the top marginal rate

Then...

"They just pass the taxes on to everyone else. Billionaires don't pay any taxes"


Your principes are as flexible as an Olympic gymnast.

Some things for the Low IQ crowd who suddenly has decided to bang the Billionaire drum since they all fled from their party of choice.

1) Elon Musk paid $11 Billion in 2021 - The most income taxes of any American. Most billionaires pay a ton of taxes. However, there are tax loopholes that could be closed but the Democrats have never chosen to do this. Why? Because they coddle their billionaires just like everyone else.



2) Many Billionaires also employ a ton of people who pay a ton of taxes. Do you want to tax them at 70-80% and have them move their operations elsewhere Bernie?

3) It will likely turn out that what we pay to the Federal Government for Income Taxes is Fugazzi. The game is far larger than what we pay in and MANY leaders and economists have stated this over the years.



 
I guess you are ignorant of the facts.

No, you are ignorant of everything.

"False. The Internal Revenue Service will not be hiring 87,000 armed agents. Job adverts posted on social media are for special agents in the IRS’s Criminal Investigation unit,a unit that was created in 1919. There are currently about 2,100 special agents in this unit. The unit hires agents every year and has for many decades due to retirements, and agents leaving the agency."

"Of course some IRS agents carry guns, but honestly that really shouldn't surprise anyone. Hasn't anybody seen The Untouchables? Has everyone forgotten that it took an accountant to catch Al Capone? This is not new. It's been the case for many, many decades.

When people start talking about armed agents at the IRS, what they're really talking about is the agency's Criminal Investigation division. It used to be called the Intelligence Unit, and it was created in 1919 with just six agents. They were former postal agents, including Elmer Irey, their chief.

The Criminal Investigation division is still chasing bad guys, and they are still working undercover with those bad guys.


Here's a story from the agency's official history from a more recent period. One agent was stabbed repeatedly with an ice pick. Another agent was offered $10,000 to murder the wife of one of the targets. This is not green-eyeshade stuff for accountants armed with calculators. So yes, this small group of trained agents do carry guns and that's a good thing- and Congress says so."

If Congress didn't like it, they could change the law. They haven't changed it.

IRS Special Agents are the only IRS employees that carry guns and this is authorized by federal law that Congress long ago authorized.


 


This video really just sums up the issue with the guys in this thread. It's just wild to me that they have zero shame in being wrong.

It just cements the divide in the country between the educated and the uneducated. I could never imagine sitting in class and being content with being the dumb kid in class. But these guys are proud of being that dumb kid.

Some of these folks on here post junk they've heard politicians say or some cable news host, talk show host, a social media post, or a podcaster without doing an ounce of "does this make sense, is this true, does it pass the smell test" thinking.

How damn stupid do you have to be to think the IRS was going to hire 80,000 employees and arm all of them with guns?

That's mindnumbingly stupid stuff. It's beyond ignorant. It's like half your brain is leaking out of your head to think that.

Matt Gaetz said such a thing one time on Fox news (he was lying) and then suddenly a bunch of robots started parroting his lie.

The IRS has had a small % of armed agents in their criminal division for over 100 years. That hasn't changed. They are law enforcement officers- and Congress authorized them to do it and has never told them they can't.
 
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ICE agents making quick work of grabbing up illegals. Ive got a feeling those 85k new IRS agents will be traded out for 85k new ICE agents. Real jobs with positive effects for Americans
 
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Fox Business report

"The article ends with a prediction that many politicians who campaigned on kitchen table issues may find worrisome: that eggs “could be nearly $5 by the end of 2025, which would be the highest-ever recorded average price for a dozen eggs.”


 
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Dominating Davos, they were kissing his ass

ICE cleaning bidens criminals out!!

DEI dead and gone!!

Transvestites removed from women’s prisons!

Taxes getting cut AGAIN!

Green New Scam ELIMINATED!!!

3 days in.
It’s Christmas every day with TRUMP
 
Dominating Davos, they were kissing his ass

ICE cleaning bidens criminals out!!

DEI dead and gone!!

Transvestites removed from women’s prisons!

Taxes getting cut AGAIN!

Green New Scam ELIMINATED!!!

3 days in.
It’s Christmas every day with TRUMP
I don't know you. BUT, I get the sense that you are a "believer", as am I. As a follow up to what I told you the other day, I just want to tell you that I went to the local organization of area churches this morning to hopefully sign up to do some volunteer work for them. The meeting went well. There was another volunteer there at that orientation. I will be doing some work there on the 3rd Saturday of each month. When I did some work for them, back in the day, that's when I did the service. That works out great for me because, as known, I'm a dedicated investor. So weekdays would not have worked for me.

I'm looking forward to it. Giving back to others, making a difference in others lives is what I think life is all about. It brings to mind that commercial with JJ Watts who says he made a career knocking people down. Now he picks people up. Helping others is our "ultimate purpose".
 
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The IRS is a government agency. People leave and retire.

If no one ever left and no one ever retired, your math still wouldn't work, but at least it would be worth a little. Instead, it doesn't work at all because we live in reality and agencies and employers lose people all the time for various reasons.

people die
people retire
People leave
People get other jobs
People quit

The IRS, per the last 2 leaders of the agency, have repeatedly said they expect over 50,000 retirements or people leaving the agency in the next 10 years. They have said their workforce is older than most.

The "85,000" positions was an estimate made in 1 report. It was never meant to be a certainly. The IRS has never said there would be that many new hires over the course of a decade. They have said that is unknowable due to the increase funding they are putting toward technology so that don't know how many employees they will need.

There was NEVER a possibility they were going to go out and hire 85,000 people all of a sudden, regardless of what your favorite talk show hosts, podcast hosts, or politician said. The IRS never said they would do that. The leaders of the agency never said they would do that. People made it up.

Your opinion is based on nothing but your imagination.

Obviously, you have never prepared a budget nor understand budgeting concepts and are willing to believe what any bureaucrat tells you. You can quote all the appointed bureaucrats you want but it doesn't change simple facts. If an employee works for an agency his salary is included in that agency's budget. If he leaves during the year, the money is still there in the budget. The agency replaces that individual with a new employee and pays that employee with the money they would have paid the former employee if he had stayed. The money is still there. It doesn't magically disappear. It doesn't take new additional money to replace the people who left. These are hard core irrefutable facts regardless of who you want to quote.

That is about as simple as I can dumb it down for you. If you don't understand I can't help you.
 
Man, the lib meltdown is even better than I thought it would be.

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No, a normal (and intellectually honest) person realizes that an agency responsible for processing and auditing 5.1 trillion in revenue comes with a lot of work.

You on the other hand, are trying to arguing that they don't do anything.


Only if you're being intellectually dishonest. Just because a government agency doesn't charge a price for its service, it still has work to do.



lol
Once again, you lose an argument so you change the narrative. I challenge you to show me where I ONCE said they did no work. In some cases they do shitty work, but I never said they did no work. That wasn't even your argument. You tried to say they brought in the revenue, which of course they in fact bring in very little revenue. The revenue comes in from the taxpayers through the voluntary compliance system. The IRS employees are processors of information - as you yourself admitted above. It is YOU who is dishonest and inconsistent here.
 
Once again, you lose an argument so you change the narrative. I challenge you to show me where I ONCE said they did no work. In some cases they do shitty work, but I never said they did no work. That wasn't even your argument.

No one is changing the argument. You're literally downplaying the amount of work it takes to process 166 million individual income tax forms and 100 million other forms including corporations and partnerships.
You tried to say they brought in the revenue, which of course they in fact bring in very little revenue. The revenue comes in from the taxpayers through the voluntary compliance system. The IRS employees are processors of information - as you yourself admitted above. It is YOU who is dishonest and inconsistent here.

Now you're just being extremely pedantic. Do you think Tesla goes out and physically recovers billions of dollars each year? Or does their accounting department just process the information as well as their customers voluntarily send the funds to them?

You're literally arguing like a child. You think you know something and you hyper focus on it completely oblivious to the bigger picture.
 
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