Nobody? Trump has said that the European countries will provide that. Zelenskyy wants it from us. Not going to happen. And if the Europeans aren't willing to step up and protect their own doorstep, then why the hell should we do it?
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Nobody? Trump has said that the European countries will provide that. Zelenskyy wants it from us. Not going to happen. And if the Europeans aren't willing to step up and protect their own doorstep, then why the hell should we do it?
So then why should Ukraine agree to a deal brokered by Trump if the US won’t even enforce it?
It’s wild how you know the right answer but you just refuse to admit it.
And Zelenskyy already told you why he didn't want to sign the deal.
“I'm not going to sign an agreement that will put 10 generations of Ukrainians into debt”
Fine for Americans to go into debt. And we shouldn't be repaid. Typical euro-liberal mentality. Let the US pay for it while we spend our money on ourselves. I'm sure we can do them the honor of paying for Ukraine to be rebuilt too.
Yes. Why should the US get mineral rights deals for an agreement they won’t enforce?
Again, you know the right answer you’re just arguing in bad faith. Wild how all your beliefs require you to argue in bad faith.
Even Marco Rubio knows supporting Ukraine is the right thing to do. Sad how far the Republican Party has sacrificed its ideas for Trump.
That was Bill Clinton writing a check his ass couldn't cash. The Budapest Memorandum doesn't require anything of us.
And again, the Europeans have agreed to enforcement. We will have an economic presence and investment to recoup hundreds of billions of taxpayer dollars.
Sounds like a great deal. Except Zelenskyy wants all this land back and wants to keep at his money and stick the US taxpayer with all the debt.
You are truly a moron. I'm sure the 1 million people dead or injured aren't considering it "good will". I'm sure that all the cities destroyed don't consider it "good will".
Biden and that giggly idiot VP of his caused an absolute f'ing disaster. Literally gave permission for a "minor incursion". Anybody that can look at this and find "good will" might be the dumbest person in the universe.
It honestly would be less exhausting if you just admitted you were wrong for once. It's crazy all the ways you've contradicted yourself the past few hours trying to weave an excuse that you''re somehow right. I think I gave you the benefit of the doubt for fall too long.
I'm guessing you didn't actually graduate from USC did you?
I think I just have to accept the fact you and I can't have an intelligent conversation because you and I are on opposite ends of the intelligence spectrum. I keep hoping I can get through to you with logic. But it just ends with you making more and more illogical conclusions in an attempt to save face.
You clearly have no interest in learning. It's a shame. I just can't imagine going through life being willing to be the idiot in the room.
Of course I did. That's why I'm not dumb enough to go to war with Russia over f'ing Ukraine. Of course, I got my degree over 30 years ago when it actually meant something and USC wasn't offering stupid classes in Taylor Swift.
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I think you just have to accept the fact that you ARE the idiot in the room and are too stupid to see it.
Russia is willing to talk peace
European nations are willing to take over security
Ukraine willing to sign an economic agreement to help recoup hundreds of billions in taxpayer dollars
And idiots like you are, "No no, we must fight!!! We must send more billions!!!!" The absolute BEST outcome we could ask for at this point, and morons like you want to risk going to war with the world's largest nuclear superpower.
Now you know why America kick your dumbass party out.
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It’s wild you can type this and not realize how dumb it sounds.
In fact, if you would agree to this deal as the president of Ukraine. That solidifies the fact you’re the moron.
It also makes me worried about your financial situation if you would take such bad deals.
It's wild that you think Zelenskyy is really in a position to choose. We are not going back to just handing him hundreds of billions of dollars. If the US and Europeans agree, he can either accept that agreement or figure it out on his own. The jig is up. Hilarious that you think otherwise. You obviously don't understand what is happening here.
Some of us have known this for a while. Audit the people involved. The money is under their mattresses
So you’re acknowledging it’s a bad deal for Ukraine?
Just continuing the contradict yourself with every post. I have no doubt that Trump can support the Russians to a victory. But that isn’t something anyone is going to believe was a good idea in the future.
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Haha the guy who resigned and plead guilty for lying about his ties to Russia?
It’s wild how easily you are manipulated.
To be fair, you were afraid to go to war in Iraq so I don’t think anyone would expect you to go to war with anyone.
So true. Hard to trust guys that have to stand in formation for a group photo every time they get together and say they have done something right before throwing the issue back to us.
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The State of California has a lot in common with Ukraine
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Ukraine is much more than a money laundering operation. Ukraine was developed by George Soros ever since it got its freedom after communism fell. He literally helped write the constitution, the judicial reforms, and all the policy positions the country took.
Ukraine is an experiment in how to build a nation that will comply with the permanent Democratic socialist party in America. Slowly, but surely through USAID, we have turned almost every European country into the democratic socialist country. And we have made it so that it is almost impossible for populist uprising to occur.
Ukraine was the test child. That’s why Soros opened one of his first NGOs there in the late 90s.
When Obama came into the White House, he took the concept of a permanent democratic socialist state in America to new heights. He changed the way we gather intelligence. He changed the way we define radical Jihad. He changed the way the world viewed the Israel Palestine conflict. He changed the way the EU nations operated. It was during the eight years of Obama that the mass migration into Europe occurred. You can’t even recognize the Scandinavian countries anymore.
None of that is a coincidence.
It’s all part of a bigger plan to make sure that no matter who wins an election, there is a permanent underbelly of bureaucratic deep staters that will continue to push the country in a democratic socialist path.
Until Donald Trump came in shattered the illusion.
The big picture here is that Barack Obama figured out a way to ensure a permanent liberal Democratic socialist government in every single country. That’s why he spied on Netanyahu and that’s why he spent our money to try to overthrow him. They cannot allow strong conservative leaders who are not afraid to ignore the status quo.
That is why populism around the world is treated like fascism by our intelligence agencies.
That is why people like George Soros other useful idiots and USAID make sure that they would fund civic institutions, judicial reform and protests in the street.
Because when they say, democratic backsliding, what they mean is a populist government.
The people can’t actually have any input in how their government is run.
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Ukraine is much more than a money laundering operation. Ukraine was developed by George Soros ever since it got its freedom after communism fell. He literally helped write the constitution, the judicial reforms, and all the policy positions the country took.
Ukraine is an experiment in how to build a nation that will comply with the permanent Democratic socialist party in America. Slowly, but surely through USAID, we have turned almost every European country into the democratic socialist country. And we have made it so that it is almost impossible for populist uprising to occur.
Ukraine was the test child. That’s why Soros opened one of his first NGOs there in the late 90s.
When Obama came into the White House, he took the concept of a permanent democratic socialist state in America to new heights. He changed the way we gather intelligence. He changed the way we define radical Jihad. He changed the way the world viewed the Israel Palestine conflict. He changed the way the EU nations operated. It was during the eight years of Obama that the mass migration into Europe occurred. You can’t even recognize the Scandinavian countries anymore.
None of that is a coincidence.
It’s all part of a bigger plan to make sure that no matter who wins an election, there is a permanent underbelly of bureaucratic deep staters that will continue to push the country in a democratic socialist path.
Until Donald Trump came in shattered the illusion.
The big picture here is that Barack Obama figured out a way to ensure a permanent liberal Democratic socialist government in every single country. That’s why he spied on Netanyahu and that’s why he spent our money to try to overthrow him. They cannot allow strong conservative leaders who are not afraid to ignore the status quo.
That is why populism around the world is treated like fascism by our intelligence agencies.
That is why people like George Soros other useful idiots and USAID make sure that they would fund civic institutions, judicial reform and protests in the street.
Because when they say, democratic backsliding, what they mean is a populist government.
The people can’t actually have any input in how their government is run.
Watson - You're officially in LowLife Mode. It's moved well beyond a troll.
Karma can be a bitch.
From what I heard it's not perfect, but yes, it's a good deal considering the circumstances.
What’s it like calling someone’s employer and being like “I want to complain about this person because he hurts my feelings by pointing out I’m wrong on the internet?”
It’s wild you don’t realize how unhinged you are to do something like that.
General Milley is a god-damn hero.
Flynn was cooperating with the Russians to get paid.
Fortunately for Ukraine, they have a real leader in charge of their country.
Not a weak person who would accept such a bad deal.
I'm not sure because I've never been in that situation.
However, if we go back just a few pages on this thread, we find maybe the greatest display of weakness ever on FGF.
Even the Mods were embarrassed for you and said as much.
Gomer loved Legacy Media some much he chose to pony for more.
Unfortunately, that only lasted a few weeks as he was one of the only people in the world who actually wanted more propaganda than CNN could push during their regular scheduling.
Unfortunately, that only lasted a few weeks as he was one of the only people in the world who actually wanted more propaganda than CNN could push during their regular scheduling.
This just highlights how insincere all your positions are. You spent all day yesterday arguing you were worried about WW3. One day later you’re whining about a phone call to assure China the US military was stable and not an irrational actor.
It’s sad our President is such an irrational actor that his subordinates are having to reassure foreign countries we won’t attack them.
