We're supposed to be some kind of great pitching team?
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Okay, so a pretty good ERA and a pretty bad WHIP against to likes of Charleston and Furman ≠ elite pitching. I think we are capable of of better. So let's work out the kinks before we have to play some real competition.
LSU and Vanderbilt and many other SEC teams have at least 2 dominant starting pitchers every year, and we need to as well. We USED TO. I like what I saw out of Crowe, Fiori, and Schimdt. Everyone else looked shaky.
I don't know where it was I am not going to go looking for it. It was an article previewing a bunch of teams and gave them grades in certain areas, and our starting pitching and bullpen got an A rating.
That sounds like some rule you made up. Why 50 innings? Seems an arbitrary number. I don't know where you get that BS from. We've played 4 games, I've made observations on how we played we've played in those 4 games and compared to how we are expected to play. It's not some kind of final indictment on the team. Either it's a slow start or maybe our pitching is overrated we'll have to find out.
Clearly this thread is state your opinion, and the original poster will have an answer for anything you say....
How do you judge a team's pitching staff in FOUR GAMES?!?! This is ridiculous. They played a very good Charleston team. A team that made it to a Super Regional last year. That doesn't happen by luck or accident.
Have you not seen Roth, Price, Montgomery ever have a bad game pitching? Look back at the statistics and see for yourself...
Weather also has a lot to do with pitching. If you ever pitched, which I HAVE, you would understand that. This isn't the end of April and May and the staff is questionable. This is after FOUR GAMES!!!!!
How do you judge a team's pitching staff in FOUR GAMES?!?! This is ridiculous. They played a very good Charleston team. A team that made it to a Super Regional last year. That doesn't happen by luck or accident.
Have you not seen Roth, Price, Montgomery ever have a bad game pitching? Look back at the statistics and see for yourself...
Weather also has a lot to do with pitching. If you ever pitched, which I HAVE, you would understand that. This isn't the end of April and May and the staff is questionable. This is after FOUR GAMES!!!!!
Why do you keep putting down College of Charleston's baseball program??? They usually have a pretty good program AND they made it to the Super Regionals last year, which means they were one of the final 16 teams playing last season. Or are you that clueless about them??? Also, the baseballs where changed this year to ramp up HR's and offense. Or are you clueless about that top??? Furthermore, even with us facing CoC (once again a Super Regional team from last year) our team ERA is 2.75 through 4 games with these new offense geared baseballs. A 2.75 ERA would have been good enough for the 19th best ERA last year when the dud baseballs were being used. As has already been mentioned, Vandy (considered by some to have the top staff in the country) gave up 7 runs in a game to Santa Clara as well. Offensive numbers are going to be up. Or are you just clueless about that as well???
Honestly, 50 innings is nowhere near enough. In 2010, our pitching staff was pathetic to start the year.
We had Holmes and Taylor closing, Dyson couldn't keep the ball down, Webb was starting on Sunday, and Matt Price, Nolan Belcher, and Jay Brown were middle relievers.
It took some blown saves, a 19-6 beating at the hands of Clemson, and a lot of Fire Calvi talk before USC settled on:
Cooper, Dyson, and Brown starting on weekends.
Roth and Taylor as situational pitchers.
Mata as a middle reliever/setup man.
Price as Closer.
Belcher and Webb as midweek pitchers/relievers.
It took a while for that great pitching staff to become what it was, and it will be the same this year.
I don't know if this will be a championship caliber unit, but I do know that it is WAY too early to form a solid opinion on what this staff is. The staff that you see on the field will almost certainly be changed until they settle on something that works, with every pitcher in their proper place. I do know that the talent is there, and if they find the right niche, they could be great.
Everyone has an opinion, the so called guy that wrote the article about our elite pitching staff had an opinion, realrooster has the opinion that he's not seeing it, my opinion is ignore both of them and let get into the season a little ways before we start judging this team!
See link.They say above average not elite.
This post was edited on 2/18 10:24 PM by pdgamecock
d1baseball article
In very cold weather, pitchers have to protect their arms. we really should not schedule games this early ( but I understand why we have to ).
if I were the coach, I would be tempted to tell the pitchers to throw fastalls only, and save the breaking pitches for warmer weather. If you played any baseball, you would know this.
very effective troll thread, all things considered.
if I were the coach, I would be tempted to tell the pitchers to throw fastalls only, and save the breaking pitches for warmer weather. If you played any baseball, you would know this.
very effective troll thread, all things considered.
I think our fans win the NC in Internet trolling every year... Something we can hang our hat on for sure.
ReadRooste when I see your comments I always think of Ambrose Bierce's "The Devil's Dictionary"....
Critic: n. A person who declares himself impossible to please, and then sets about to prove it.
Critic: n. A person who declares himself impossible to please, and then sets about to prove it.
Originally posted by pdgamecock: See link.They say above average not elite.
This post was edited on 2/18 10:24pm
Just what I suspected,
OP = drama queen
