My goodness, what could have been had they figured it out sooner rather than 3 quarters of the way thru football season....
What took so long for the coaching staff to realize Jason Brown is the best quarterback we have?
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Really???
against Eastern Illinois
Brown was 4 for 5 passing for 45 yards, longest yard passing 18 yards with 1 sack, rushing once for -10 yards
against UGA
Brown was 0-1 passing
against TAM
Brown was 8 for 14 passing for 84 yards, 1 TD and 2 INT's longest yard passing 16 yards, rushing once for 9 yards
The guy on the bench is always the best player on the team... Brown may have not been the best player on the bench for the first 8 games of the season, but he sure was the best started of the game... Kind of reminds me of Steve Tannyhill after the 0-5 start...
against Eastern Illinois
Brown was 4 for 5 passing for 45 yards, longest yard passing 18 yards with 1 sack, rushing once for -10 yards
against UGA
Brown was 0-1 passing
against TAM
Brown was 8 for 14 passing for 84 yards, 1 TD and 2 INT's longest yard passing 16 yards, rushing once for 9 yards
The guy on the bench is always the best player on the team... Brown may have not been the best player on the bench for the first 8 games of the season, but he sure was the best started of the game... Kind of reminds me of Steve Tannyhill after the 0-5 start...
And who has been better? There were folks at the beginning of the season who were in the know, said he was our best quarterback...maybe i'll eat crow after the Mizzou game, but my goodness...
Got to trust your staff guys, and understand if he was the best guy to get us a win he would have been starting! There’s a lot to learning in a playbook and executing it in practice, just must not have felt comfortable with him in practice until they had no choice!
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Folks who were in the know??? I like that wording... I know better than the coaching staff... I know who is a better player on the team... I know something and I want to look big that I know something... Who are you??? Corey Miller???
It's hard to say. None of us have seen these QBs in practice, so sometimes we see guys like Brown perform how he did last night and we scratch our heads about why we haven't seen more of them earlier. Who knows? But I will say this: Every QB on our team would have looked decent last night behind that OL play and behind 280-something yards rushing. Frankly, I'm more amazed with the OL play last night than the QB play (and that's not a knock against Brown in any way).
I wouldn't say that. We may have lost if someone else had been QB.
Brown made some good plays and I'm excited to see what he can do. I didn't see him do anything last night that our other guys couldn't do. Maybe they would have maybe not.
What I do know is that the offensive game plan we saw last night in the first half was completely different than what we had been seeing. As we got closer to the old scheme was when our offense bogged down again.
What I do know is that the offensive game plan we saw last night in the first half was completely different than what we had been seeing. As we got closer to the old scheme was when our offense bogged down again.
You think Zeb could have dodged the rush and made those plays on the run?
There were about 6 plays that the other QBs would have taken sacks and killed the drive
Example 1: The wide open TD to Vann happened because a mobile QB evaded the rush, changed directions, strung the play out to the sideline, and gave Vann time to get open, all while threatening to pick up at least 5-10 yards by running. Yes the pass was easy (although lord knows we have missed guys that wide open with knuckleball passes). But the total play came from a QB performing athletically, and then keeping his eyes down field for an even bigger opportunity.
I’m equally impressed with several of his throw-away passes out of bounds. Way better than taking a sack or forcing the ball.
Yeah, saw a Florida fan on Youtube complaining that the Gators made USC's 3rd string quarterback look like John Elway. He may be right that Florida's defense deserve some of the credit/blame for Brown's success, but to your point -- no way Zeb could have made those plays, even against a mediocre Florida D.
Brown played well last night. I don’t think he did anything spectacular (he did evade the rush a few times and threw a catchable jump ball downfield to Vann), but he seemed to do everything he was asked to do.
That said, the O-line and run game made his job SO much easier than any QB has had since Eastern Illinois.
Brown has earned his starting spot for the upcoming game, and I’m optimistic that he can help the offense continue their success. Right now, Vegas probably considers us a toss-up against Mizzu, and a significant underdog against Auburn and Clemson. One win in those three games and this team is in a bowl, which would be a huge win for this staff.
That said, the O-line and run game made his job SO much easier than any QB has had since Eastern Illinois.
Brown has earned his starting spot for the upcoming game, and I’m optimistic that he can help the offense continue their success. Right now, Vegas probably considers us a toss-up against Mizzu, and a significant underdog against Auburn and Clemson. One win in those three games and this team is in a bowl, which would be a huge win for this staff.
I have no idea. Our OL has not performed anywhere close to that all season. I believe a healthy Doty can make all those plays. Brown definitely has the advantage of experience. I believe he made quicker decisions than I've seen out of Doty. Thats to be expected though comparing a senior to a RS freshman.
People don’t realize how critical a smart throw away is
Exactly.
I don't want to take anything away from Brown in any way at all. He played great and he did some things that our other quarterbacks definitely were not doing. I hope it carries over into the next few games and even into next season. I really really do!
But you Monday morning quarterbacks need to realize there were multiple factors leading to last night. A lot of it had to do with the other team we were playing. This is not a great part of team and they are a shell of what they were even at the beginning of this season. Not to mention the fact that half the team had the flu. Those are just excuses I know but they are also part of the reason. Having the buy week, possibly something the coaches did help the team change its attitude, like I said there are multiple things that led to last night.
This team could have come out and played exactly like they did last night against Texas A&M last week and the outcome may not have been any different. I hope that's not the case. I hope we could have beaten anybody playing like we did last night but that's not likely.
You gotta love the "he played good, but" or "glad we won, but" people.
When you can run the football so much opens up offensively. Had we been one dementional things would have been different
To quote Lou Holtz..."Things are never as good as you think they are and things are never as bad as you think they are."
It's called being realistic about our failures and our successes. I'm neither a chicken little nor a sunshine pumper.
Brown made everything click around him. Zeb nor Doty could elevate the offense like Brown has. 8 weeks they couldn't do it
Brown comes in against Florida and does.
Flame you are correct. Zeb nor Doty could beat Florida and anyone with half a brain knows it. There is something different about Brown that the other two do not have.
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Lol.
And STILL the fans continue to try to diminish Jason Brown.
Not going to bother enumerating the qualities that make Brown effective as well as playing off on the rest of the team, nor addressing the nonsense that any of the other qbs would have been just as effective. Waste of time and effort; you can either see it or you can’t.
The right guy is in the position, finally. New season now.
And STILL the fans continue to try to diminish Jason Brown.
Not going to bother enumerating the qualities that make Brown effective as well as playing off on the rest of the team, nor addressing the nonsense that any of the other qbs would have been just as effective. Waste of time and effort; you can either see it or you can’t.
The right guy is in the position, finally. New season now.
Yep. The oline stepped up and dominated Florida last night. And when they didn't protect well, Brown was able to move around and create.
A lot of things came together last night. The oline. The running game. It wasn't just Brown. But he certainly was a big part of it. I said he should start after the TAMU game, even though he threw 2 INTs, mainly because of his escapability. But he did a lot more than that last night. Very happy for the FCS Catholic school kid.
Exactly, i don’t see a loss to a team we were expected to beat or a win against a team that was favored, until yesterday! I believe vegas had our wins at 3.5, i believe we have surpassed that, which says decent season to me, i had us at 6 with chance for 7!
He might be the best QB talent wise, but it’s hard to play someone that’s still learning the playbook.
If the truth be told my bet is that Brown would have never seen the field if Doty and Zeb had not got hurt. Let that sink in for a minute. Either they are blind or incompetent.
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None of us are privy to that information, so don't make suppositions.
Vegas didn't expect Brown to step up and neither did our coaching staff. Thanks to Jason we have a shot at 6 wins and a bowl
I'll trust my coaches over your opinion.
I've never remember you being wrong on this board before 🙄
WTH are u talking about. I was talking about the sad sacks that can’t enjoy a win and the fact Brown had a nice game. They want to be miserable so bad they give a back handed compliment then say “but”. But glad you realized I am never wrong.
In all fairness, it is just one game.
UF looked slow and our RBs gashed them....but no one can take away the difference that Jason made.
Good grief, we got our brakes beat off by UGA, TAMU, & UTen. With the offense we saw last night, we could have beaten UK and maybe been competitive in one of those 3 beat downs.
More so in their run defense. We gashed them. UF has problems....they looked slow and un-athletic.
But we took what they were giving!
From what I heard he came in more than 25 pounds overweight and a bit of an attitude. Supposedly Beamer sat him down and told him he had to lose weight and become more of a team leader. Brown did that and the rest is history.
I watched the game with my brother in law who has coached defense in high school for 40 years. The one thing he noticed in the run game that Brown did well is handled the ball well with the RBs particularly in the RPO plays. He really froze the LBs which opened up running holes. I’m not a coach so don’t criticize me if this is wrong. But I did notice the LBs weren’t filling all the gaps as much as in prior games.
I watched the game with my brother in law who has coached defense in high school for 40 years. The one thing he noticed in the run game that Brown did well is handled the ball well with the RBs particularly in the RPO plays. He really froze the LBs which opened up running holes. I’m not a coach so don’t criticize me if this is wrong. But I did notice the LBs weren’t filling all the gaps as much as in prior games.
My friend, when your qb breaks from pressure to his left and evades defenders then throws a strike across his body 45 yards downfield for a big gain, or he evades pressure and scrambles out to his right while directing his receiver with his hand for the touchdown pass he then delivers, et al, et al, that is not part of a playbook.
And again, these coaches were so fixated on the playbook or the system or whatever, they lost sight of *playing football.* Brown never had a chance because they only envisioned the chosen one. The sad part is without the injuries we’re still sitting here on four wins and probably finishing the season that way.
