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What took so long for the coaching staff to realize Jason Brown is the best quarterback we have?

My friend, when your qb breaks from pressure to his left and evades defenders then throws a strike across his body 45 yards downfield for a big gain, or he evades pressure and scrambles out to his right while directing his receiver with his hand for the touchdown pass he then delivers, et al, et al, that is not part of a playbook.

And again, these coaches were so fixated on the playbook or the system or whatever, they lost sight of *playing football.* Brown never had a chance because they only envisioned the chosen one. The sad part is without the injuries we’re still sitting here on four wins and probably finishing the season that way.
This. Brown’s most impressive trait to me is the way he feels the pass rush and improvises with his eyes down field. That’s hard to showcase in practice, he probably didn’t perform as well as a standard type qb in practice. However, I don’t give the coaches a pass on missing this. It just explains why brown could’ve been the best qb we had and the coaches missed it.
 
Good grief, we got our brakes beat off by UGA, TAMU, & UTen. With the offense we saw last night, we could have beaten UK and maybe been competitive in one of those 3 beat downs.
Two of those losses were expected. 2 were Toss ups. No guarantee Brown would have made a difference then, but if our OL had played like they did last night we probably would have beaten KY.
 
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The main ingredient last night was the vast improvement in the O Line play. They gave our backs holes to run through and Brown time. As Brown, Vann and others said in post game they finally clicked and won their one on one's. Let's keep it going.
 
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Beamer told the broadcast crew last night Brown was a bit of a "gunslinger."

Offensive coordinators want guys they can manage back there, or who can manage themselves. Clearly, Brown has learned, and his time has come. And, he no doubt benefitted from an offensive line that played so much better than they have performed.
 
This. Brown’s most impressive trait to me is the way he feels the pass rush and improvises with his eyes down field. That’s hard to showcase in practice, he probably didn’t perform as well as a standard type qb in practice. However, I don’t give the coaches a pass on missing this. It just explains why brown could’ve been the best qb we had and the coaches missed it.
Like another poster said he never had a chance. They where focused on the chosen one.
 
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Example 1: The wide open TD to Vann happened because a mobile QB evaded the rush, changed directions, strung the play out to the sideline, and gave Vann time to get open, all while threatening to pick up at least 5-10 yards by running. Yes the pass was easy (although lord knows we have missed guys that wide open with knuckleball passes). But the total play came from a QB performing athletically, and then keeping his eyes down field for an even bigger opportunity.

I’m equally impressed with several of his throw-away passes out of bounds. Way better than taking a sack or forcing the ball.
Good take. Brown’s patience and awareness on the Vann TD pass was impressive. Noland would not have been able to avoid being sacked and I can’t imagine Doty being able to make decisions that quickly and deliver that pass smoothly.
 
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For the first time in a very long time our offense, defense, and special teams looked great! Everything clicked starting with the OL and running game. Harris finally returned to last years form and White was great and Lloyd looked good. Brown took advantage of his opportunities. I never expected what I saw in the first half and I don't think Beamer did either.
 
And who has been better? There were folks at the beginning of the season who were in the know, said he was our best quarterback...maybe i'll eat crow after the Mizzou game, but my goodness...
At the spring game, SOS said he should be our starting QB!! Hell that should mean something!😜😎
 
Really???

against Eastern Illinois

Brown was 4 for 5 passing for 45 yards, longest yard passing 18 yards with 1 sack, rushing once for -10 yards

against UGA

Brown was 0-1 passing

against TAM

Brown was 8 for 14 passing for 84 yards, 1 TD and 2 INT's longest yard passing 16 yards, rushing once for 9 yards

The guy on the bench is always the best player on the team... Brown may have not been the best player on the bench for the first 8 games of the season, but he sure was the best started of the game... Kind of reminds me of Steve Tannyhill after the 0-5 start...
Now that you mention it, I had similar feelings after this game and Tannyhill's debut. Sure would be nice for Brown to have the kind of regular season finish Tannyhill did.
 
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My goodness, what could have been had they figured it out sooner rather than 3 quarters of the way thru football season....
My goodness, I don't think we will ever know what Luke Doty could have done had he not been hurt. He pretty clearly was the best we had before his foot injury. Honestly, our running game and offensive line play was what made the difference last night.
 
The correct answer would be NO!
So you asked a rhetorical question? Nice. I think a healthy Luke playing behind that motivated line with the coaches dedicated to actually running the ball could have beaten Florida. So that's my answer. Not sure about Zeb. The mobility was critical.
 
My friend, when your qb breaks from pressure to his left and evades defenders then throws a strike across his body 45 yards downfield for a big gain, or he evades pressure and scrambles out to his right while directing his receiver with his hand for the touchdown pass he then delivers, et al, et al, that is not part of a playbook.
Spot on....you can't teach some of that.

As Steve once said....."big time playmakers make big time plays".
For all the grief Spurrier gave his QBs, he was always looking for them to make big plays.
 
So you asked a rhetorical question? Nice. I think a healthy Luke playing behind that motivated line with the coaches dedicated to actually running the ball could have beaten Florida. So that's my answer. Not sure about Zeb. The mobility was critical.
The answer still would be NO. The line being motivated had a lot to do with QB play it works hand and hand.
 
Folks who were in the know??? I like that wording... I know better than the coaching staff... I know who is a better player on the team... I know something and I want to look big that I know something... Who are you??? Corey Miller???
You appear to be among the 'trust the coaches fan club', if not the President of the club with the way you support every decision they make and hang onto every word they utter.

Newsflash!

Fans have every right to question the reliability of this coaching staff based upon the previous 8 games of data. They (especially our OC) have made some extremely bone-headed decisions to date - more than we have time to discuss in this thread. But, in some people's minds, coach speak trumps all. We have heard time after time after time how player X has had the best practice of the season, should be on the field more, need to find ways to get him the ball, etc, ONLY to see NADA from player X in the next game.

Play calling has been suspect, the game plans have been suspect, the preparation has been suspect, the starting lineups have been suspect, as well as the personnel groupings for certain down and distance situations. But, the coaches see these players every day in practice, so obviously they know more and are better judges of talent that the average fan. OK! Go with that.
 
My goodness, I don't think we will ever know what Luke Doty could have done had he not been hurt. He pretty clearly was the best we had before his foot injury. Honestly, our running game and offensive line play was what made the difference last night.
So you asked a rhetorical question? Nice. I think a healthy Luke playing behind that motivated line with the coaches dedicated to actually running the ball could have beaten Florida. So that's my answer. Not sure about Zeb. The mobility was critical.

Motivation on a football team comes from a belief that you can win, and it spreads over the whole team. 2020 healthy, spring game healthy, not quite healed, reinjured foot, whatever, all those Dotys looked the same to me. And unfortunately no, neither he nor Zeb would have duplicated Browns performance and results, like just changing chess pieces. And the team knew it; hence a major component of the motivation.
 
They also said last night after the game that St. Francis didn`t play last year at all, while Zeb played in the spring like some teams did. Had a lot to learn. He also apparently through a lot of pics in practice. He looked really good last night - OL also had their best game, RB`s too, so all of that helped. Leave it to some people to win a game in a blowout, while being a 20 pt. underdog, playing almost flawlessly in every phase of the game, and they still manage to bitch about something. New coaching staff, a lot of pieces to put together. Why can`t you just praise the team and the staff on how well we played last night and how it looks like things are coming together. Support Coach Beamer and his staff. This is the SEC - we have to be patient and give these guys a chance.
 
You appear to be among the 'trust the coaches fan club', if not the President of the club with the way you support every decision they make and hang onto every word they utter.

Newsflash!

Fans have every right to question the reliability of this coaching staff based upon the previous 8 games of data. They (especially our OC) have made some extremely bone-headed decisions to date - more than we have time to discuss in this thread. But, in some people's minds, coach speak trumps all. We have heard time after time after time how player X has had the best practice of the season, should be on the field more, need to find ways to get him the ball, etc, ONLY to see NADA from player X in the next game.

Play calling has been suspect, the game plans have been suspect, the preparation has been suspect, the starting lineups have been suspect, as well as the personnel groupings for certain down and distance situations. But, the coaches see these players every day in practice, so obviously they know more and are better judges of talent that the average fan. OK! Go with that.
If you knew more you would be coaching a college team somewhere.
 
If you knew more you would be coaching a college team somewhere.
That is the most 'tired' and lazy response in the books. Not everyone dreams of being a nomad for decades, uprooting your family constantly and taking them away from newly created, but hopefully long lasting friendships and relationships - regardless of the money involves.

That doesn't mean there are not extremely knowledgeable fans on this site and elsewhere who could easily duplicate the efforts of your heroes. Do you and others really think the average college football coach is a Rhodes Scholar? Please!
 
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That is the most 'tired' and lazy response in the books. Not everyone dreams of being a nomad for decades, uprooting your family constantly and taking them away from newly created, but hopefully long lasting friendships and relationships - regardless of the money involves.

That doesn't mean there are not extremely knowledgeable fans on this site and elsewhere who could easily duplicate the efforts of your heroes. Do you and others really think the average college football coach is a Rhodes Scholar? Please!
No, but I think they know more than you.
 
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It's hard to say. None of us have seen these QBs in practice, so sometimes we see guys like Brown perform how he did last night and we scratch our heads about why we haven't seen more of them earlier. Who knows? But I will say this: Every QB on our team would have looked decent last night behind that OL play and behind 280-something yards rushing. Frankly, I'm more amazed with the OL play last night than the QB play (and that's not a knock against Brown in any way).

great take
 
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