Why don`t we ever hear what % of people testing + for Covid-19 were wearing masks or not? Simple que
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I am concerned about that, too. Covid is not the flu. There are long-term medical consequences (heart, lung, neurological and kidney) associated with Covid.
Tell that to the citizens who have loved ones who die or suffer from COVID-19, if the state leaders don't at least try to make people take preventative measures....
Name ONE state leader who has not tried to make people take preventative measures. Just one.
You don't apologize for telling a lie when you didn't say the lie. Both he and the surgeon general said it.
Speaking of lies, do YOU ever apologize for telling them? Because, you keep on lying and lying and lying. You never bring a THING to the table of discussion on this site, but total lies. You NEVER back them up with ANYTHING that can't be immediately shot down and exposed as pure, 100% lies.
You're responding to me about a thread of debate involving Dr. Fauci advising back in March that there was no need to wear masks. I explained that BACK THEN, Fauci was correct, and he qualified what he was saying THEN, even though people who try to cast blame clumsily try to take his words out of context to support their inaccurate positions.
YOU respond that Fauci even apologized....I guess, you're saying that Fauci apologized for saying what he said about not needing to wear masks back in March?? Because, that was what I was talking about???
Fauci says he doesn't regret telling Americans not to wear masks at the beginning of the pandemic
Dr. Anthony Fauci says he doesn't regret joining other the Trump administration's other public health experts in advising Americans against wearing masks early on in the COVID-19 pandemic.
"I don't regret anything I said then because in the context of the time in which I said it, it was correct. We were told in our task force meetings that we have a serious problem with the lack of PPEs and masks for the health providers who are putting themselves in harm's way every day to take care of sick people," Fauci told O'Donnell.
https://www.instyle.com/news/dr-fauci-says-with-all-due-modesty-i-think-im-pretty-effective
When it became clear that we could get the infection could be spread by asymptomatic carriers who don't know they're infected, that made it very clear that we had to strongly recommend masks," he said.
And also, it soon became clear that we had enough protective equipment and that cloth masks and homemade masks were as good as masks that you would buy from surgical supply stores," Fauci added. "So in the context of when we were not strongly recommending it, it was the correct thing."
https://www.businessinsider.com/fauci-doesnt-regret-advising-against-masks-early-in-pandemic-2020-7
WOW, that is SOME "apology" Dr. Fauci gave out there. That article was 3 days ago. I STILL keep bringing factual evidence to the table, and YOU just keep on bringing them lies. Keep it up.....
You lost any credence when you compared South Carolina to Nazi Germany.Speaking of lies, do YOU ever apologize for telling them? Because, you keep on lying and lying and lying. You never bring a THING to the table of discussion on this site, but total lies. You NEVER back them up with ANYTHING that can't be immediately shot down and exposed as pure, 100% lies.
You're responding to me about a thread of debate involving Dr. Fauci advising back in March that there was no need to wear masks. I explained that BACK THEN, Fauci was correct, and he qualified what he was saying THEN, even though people who try to cast blame clumsily try to take his words out of context to support their inaccurate positions.
YOU respond that Fauci even apologized....I guess, you're saying that Fauci apologized for saying what he said about not needing to wear masks back in March?? Because, that was what I was talking about???
Fauci says he doesn't regret telling Americans not to wear masks at the beginning of the pandemic
Dr. Anthony Fauci says he doesn't regret joining other the Trump administration's other public health experts in advising Americans against wearing masks early on in the COVID-19 pandemic.
"I don't regret anything I said then because in the context of the time in which I said it, it was correct. We were told in our task force meetings that we have a serious problem with the lack of PPEs and masks for the health providers who are putting themselves in harm's way every day to take care of sick people," Fauci told O'Donnell.
When it became clear that we could get the infection could be spread by asymptomatic carriers who don't know they're infected, that made it very clear that we had to strongly recommend masks," he said.
And also, it soon became clear that we had enough protective equipment and that cloth masks and homemade masks were as good as masks that you would buy from surgical supply stores," Fauci added. "So in the context of when we were not strongly recommending it, it was the correct thing."
https://www.businessinsider.com/fauci-doesnt-regret-advising-against-masks-early-in-pandemic-2020-7
WOW, that is SOME "apology" Dr. Fauci gave out there. That article was 3 days ago. I STILL keep bringing factual evidence to the table, and YOU just keep on bringing them lies. Keep it up.....
Please stop posting here!
Actually he stated that South Carolinians were worse than Hitler and the Nazi’s...AND his buddy “Harvard Gamecock” liked his post. Just disgusting.
I don't understand why the moderators allow posters like this on this site.
I can't think of a single reasonable person who doesn't know this. The guy admitted he told people not to wear masks because they didn't want a rush on the supplies, not because they worked or not.
But you are seriously beating your head against a wall with this one. I admit, I've done it too. But it will go nowhere.
No. Sorry if the truth hurts you.
The northern colonies distrusted Great Britain and Europe, due to the British Government's unfair control and involvement in industry and commerce in the larger cities that grew up North. Taxation without representation, overruling majority votes of the people, arbitrarily and unequally showing favor for some over others.
The southern colonies never developed this kind of distrust in Europe. There were few cities in the revolutionary days in the South, and very little industry. The main economic engine in the South was agriculture - tobacco, rice, cotton, indigo, sugar - merchandise that were basic goods and required little legislation or fluctuating tarrifs. It was the same goods that went back thousands of years prior.
The northern colonies wanted to establish more control over the legislation of their government: their destinies, their future expansion, and not see the profits from their hard labor end up in other's pockets. They wanted a society of true democratic republicanism, where each citizen had a larger role in their own government.
The southern colonies were heavily influenced by the European concepts of mercantilism, and as such built their societies to mirror the European style of society. This society was an elitist-based autocracy - while there were no kings or queens in southern colonies, there definitely were little Lords and Ladies, Dukes and Duchesses, and Barons who owned the plantations and tried to live much like royalty or elite - mostly off of the backs of African slaves.
It was an ancient economic policy that began in Europe around the 15th century, and in the U.S. lasted right up into the Civil War.
So, you see the southern colonies never truly walked the same paths as the northern colonies - never TRULY believed in "all men are created equal", and never truly were willing to share equal rights and freedoms to their fellow citizens. Even the poorer white classes in the South were held down and kept under-educated, because it was feared by the more privileged few that controlled those states' governments, that too much education of the masses would cut into and diminish the manual labor for the fields and harvests, and reduce the money being poured into the pockets of those wealthy few.
It's a systemic oppression that is felt by the southern slaves states, even today.
So, it was the SOUTH that spit on the true beliefs and foundations of the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution,
It was the SOUTH that spit on humanity with its institutions of slavery,
It was the SOUTH that spit into God's and Jesus Christ's faces, with it's creation of the Southern Baptist Convention in 1846 in Augusta, GA,
and it was the SOUTH that committed treason against its nation, by seceding and waging direct war against it's citizens.
If Hitler deigned to commit more atrocious actions than these, I do not know of them. And these are ALL heavily documented fact - not attempted at being hidden or secreted away by shamed co-conspirators, but proudly proclaimed as being championed, by the people at the time that committed these acts. For most of them, there are some citizens in the South who STILL are proud of them....
Present some actual evidence other than out-of-context spin-job, and perhaps I'll shut up. As it is, I am the only one who presented credible evidence - and I didn't even bother linking actual video of Fauci saying these words, because he said them in front of a video camera. He's lying that Fauci apologized for lying, and I'm presenting evidence of Fauci saying that he did NOT lie, is STILL right in saying it, and he has zero regrets saying it.
So, I could bring more, if I needed to. But you guys just keep on lying, lying, lying. And you NEVER back up what YOU say, with anything credible. Go figure....
God help our state. Those are NOT my thoughts. They are the signed, sealed, and documented history of the southern states. I just am not like some who choose to just turn a blind eye and act high and mighty, like our history and heritage isn't built on that foundation. Because, it definitely is.....
For the same reason you're allowed to post here.
Dr. Fauci said masks don't work for Covid. In the same tweet he said "seriously people, stop buying masks they don't work for Covid.... I don't care what his reasons we're for sending the tweet, it's irrelevant.. That was a lie
Just curious-do you agree with Fauci’s position in praising Governor Cuomo and New York in their coronavirus response?
oh I don’t know- how about the incineration of 6 million Jews with Hitler’s final solution or is this just a close second in your mind?
This is a stupid hill to retreat back to for you, but you do you.
the medical opinion from national heath experts has changed. Regardless, most businesses are urging, and many are requiring masks to be worn.
They don’t give a rip what you think about it.
Why do you liberals get upset when people don't agree with you... What was "stupid" about posting a different opinion backed up by Doctors... All of you act like you are superior and right about every issue.. Y'all have been bitching and calling people liars about there being no doctors that think masks don't work.... I posted and proved you and your lib buddies wrong about this issue and you reply with nonsense.. By the way, I wear a mask, not because it works but to make you geniuses feel better about yourselves and for my grandmother.
There you go, Champ! Keep lying. Lying, lying, lying.
Doctor Anthony Fauci DID NOT tweet those words. The U.S. Surgeon General Jerome Adams tweeted them:
And even in Adams' message, it was again the point that buying masks for the purpose of preventing the mask-wearer from getting infected with COVID-19 was a flawed purpose that took away those masks from healthcare providers. Adams pretty much says it in his tweet.
Masks are more effective for infected people to prevent the spread of COVID-19. So again, the message in itself was NOT a lie - regardless of if it was Adams or Fauci that said it. It was more HOW the message was given: they should have put more emphasis in touting cloth masks instead of not using more professional masks, but they hadn't gotten the knowledge quite yet that asymptomatic carriers of the virus could still spread it to others.
But keep on with your lying....you do such a great job of it.....
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I call only liars like you a liar.
You Continue to lie. You promised to never respond to me again weeks ago. You lied. I’m not surprised.
As I said, masks are now recommended by conservatives and liberals alike. More importantly, many businesses require them regardless of your ignorant opinions.
I do not know exactly what Fauci said of Cuomo's handling of the COVID-19 in New York - my own position is that his decision to move infected patients into nursing homes was a mistake, and possibly added thousands of deaths to the toll that otherwise may not have needed to be added.
Beyond that, if you look at the NY data of daily cases and deaths today, it looks like a virtual mirror-reflection of most other states now - the daily numbers for NY are dwindling down to almost nothing, while other states that peaked back in April and then declined, are now setting new daily records for positive tests. So it sure looks like Cuomo and other NY authorities are doing something right.....
That's the problem though, isn't it? Southern slave masters didn't tattoo serial numbers onto the arms of African slaves. History will never truly know just how many African slaves died on their way to America, or during their enslavement afterwards.....
I assume most of us live in this terrible Southern treasonous place. Our generation had nothing to do with slavery. I think our region of the country has become more patriotic than any other. Can others say that? People bring up the US has the only country in the world that had a slave issue. Every civilization and country had to get through it. The US is not unique. African tribes sold other tribesmen into slavery, should they take blame also? We need to move forward not simmer and stew in the past or we can't progress as non hyphenated Americans that are color blind.
I can only speak for those I know directly as I refuse to play the "I know someone who" game.
Right now one of my best friends in Charlotte has it. Wears a mask, uses hand sanitizer, only meals "out" are occasional takeaway. He is dumbfounded about where he picked it up.
My parents in Asheville are also battling it. They have stayed secluded, only going out for essentials. Mom had to make a trip to her primary care physician to get a prescription refilled (they insisted), and thinks that is where she got it. Even then she had the mask, gloves, hand sanitizer before and after.
Right now one of my best friends in Charlotte has it. Wears a mask, uses hand sanitizer, only meals "out" are occasional takeaway. He is dumbfounded about where he picked it up.
My parents in Asheville are also battling it. They have stayed secluded, only going out for essentials. Mom had to make a trip to her primary care physician to get a prescription refilled (they insisted), and thinks that is where she got it. Even then she had the mask, gloves, hand sanitizer before and after.
I recall the statements from Dr Fauci and feeling guilty that I had a supply of N95 masks that were in short supply for those frontline medical workers. That was back in March and it was clear to me then that Fauci was afraid that folks would be buying them up like toilet paper.
I bought my supply months before the virus as I need them when cutting grass.
I bought my supply months before the virus as I need them when cutting grass.
A more important question is why does Donald Trump oppose additional funding for testing? It is needed.
As poignant as that is, why is it every time someone asks a question people can't answer about their candidate, it turns into "Well your guy..." Biden has nothing to do with Trump's follies any more than Trump has to do with Biden's mental decline. Fix your house, stop thinking your party's bullshit is ok because "Well, the other guy..."
It's s_it like that why Trump is losing to Biden, according to the polls, 50.4 - 41.6. Conservative rule is chaos.
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LOL. The Irish would like a word with you. Unions were born of that giving northern spirit. Slave owners in the North were not discouraged.
He would beg to differ. He claims & seems extremely proud he is still able to do stuff like identify a picture of an elephant & answer "very hard" questions like counting back from 100 by seven.
Is there any wonder why he's threatened to file a lawsuit against both Fordham & Wharton if they release his grades?
Does any human on the planet, even his supporters, doubt for a second that he would claim to have "aced" the exam even if he answered every damn question wrong?
Who suggested a stable genius needed to take this exam & why?
Trump and Chris Wallace Went Head to Head Over A 'Very Hard' Cognitive Test
Trump has made bashing Joe Biden for a supposed lack of mental sharpness one of the hallmarks of his re-election campaign. But during their interview, Wallace pointed out that polling has found that Americans are more confident of Biden's competency than they are of Trump's.
"I’ll tell you what, let’s take a test," Trump replied. "Let’s go down, Joe and I will take a test. Let him take the same test that I took.
During an interview with Sean Hannity last week, Trump claimed to have "aced" a cognitive exam he'd taken at Walter Reed National Military Medical Center. Wallace told the president that he had also taken the same exam, and said that it wasn't all that challenging.
They have a picture and it says ‘What’s that?'" said Wallace, "and it’s an elephant."
"Yes, the first few questions are easy, but I’ll bet you couldn’t even answer the last five questions," Trump said. "I’ll bet you couldn’t. They get very hard, the last five questions."
"Well, one of them was count back from one hundred by seven," replied Wallace. "Ninety-three."
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Not true...it's just not as good as the N95 masks.
It won't work because we have too many people who are stubborn and think the Government are trying to tell them what to do.
Adams was right about the mask... It doesn't help...
But, if you're talking about the N95 mask, that's different... Those are for the healthcare workers and there is a reason why they call it N95.. It helps protect you 95% of the germs and viruses...
Of course they only feel that way because opinion hosts tell them to think that.
