Here's an example....
Duke crowd chanting while playing NC State in basketball
"if you can't go to college go to State"
AGAIN, when WVU wanted to get into the ACC when they were expanding with Syracuse, BC, etc., WVU was denied due to Academics...
Here is an article from SEC/ACC expansion which states again, WVU in a no-go because of academics...
SEC / ACC Expansion: So, Why Was WVU Reportedly Turned Down?
www.cardiachill.com
The Clemson folks use the rankings against us...
What if we wanted to get back in the ACC? We would be ahead of a couple of schools but no where near the top. Duke, UVA, Pitt...heck we would be below NCSU, FSU and Clemson...
Academic reputation matters!!!!