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seeing a lot of noise about possible legal problems at UT surrounding Butch Jones. Any of you folks heard any opinions on the topic?
Brandon McIIwain and Bryan Edwards have not signed yet. I'm talking about their classes as a whole not just a few play makers over a span of 5 years. Clemson and Tennessee have been able to recruit highly ranked classes on consistent basis. I've always felt as though we had the better coaches but Clemson and Tenn. seem to have the better recruiters. If we want to make it to the next level we need to take our recruiting to the next level.You mean recruiters that land a zach bailey or a Brandon mcilwain or a j ckoowney or Jordan smith or Marcus latte more or Bryan Edwards or d Neal or S Bkackshear or Christian Pellage or S Pittman or Alshon Jefferey. Etc etc etc.
Brandon McIIwain and Bryan Edwards have not signed yet. I'm talking about their classes as a whole not just a few play makers over a span of 5 years. Clemson and Tennessee have been able to recruit highly ranked classes on consistent basis. I've always felt as though we had the better coaches but Clemson and Tenn. seem to have the better recruiters. If we want to make it to the next level we need to take our recruiting to the next level.
I agree somewhat but not sure I would trade our coaches for either of them. Actually I know I wouldn't. I do hope our next hire is a younger coach
And yet look at Carolina's record vs clemsux & UT in the last five years. I'll take us.Brandon McIIwain and Bryan Edwards have not signed yet. I'm talking about their classes as a whole not just a few play makers over a span of 5 years. Clemson and Tennessee have been able to recruit highly ranked classes on consistent basis. I've always felt as though we had the better coaches but Clemson and Tenn. seem to have the better recruiters. If we want to make it to the next level we need to take our recruiting to the next level.
seeing a lot of noise about possible legal problems at UT surrounding Butch Jones. Any of you folks heard any opinions on the topic?
Again like I said in order for USC to start to compete for titles USC needs to recruit BETTER. I feel as though we have the COACHING STAFF but USC needs to improve in bringing in DIFFERENCE MAKERS.And yet look at Caolina's record vs clemsux & UT in the last five years. I'll take us.
Like Clowney & Lattimore, etc.? (see Carolinamyke's post above). Again, I'll take us, especially over dumbo. He can win the national champ in recruiting. Look how that's worked out during his tenure vs Spurrier.Again like I said in order for USC to start to compete for titles USC needs to recruit BETTER. I feel as though we have the COACHING STAFF but USC needs to improve in bringing in DIFFERENCE MAKERS.
We had a defense that had several players that are now current NFL players and a few on offense. But not enough difference makers on offense or KO return game to take us to another level.Like Clowney & Lattimore, etc.? (see Carolinamyke's post above). Again, I'll take us, especially over dumbo. He can win the national champ in recruiting. Look how that's worked out during his tenure vs Spurrier.
Back to the original comment of wishing we had coaches like dumbo & butch jones. I dont. I'll take Spurrier any day..UT
We had a defense that had several players that are now current NFL players and a few on offense. But not enough difference makers on offense or KO return game to take us to another level.
I said recruiters like Butch and Dabo. I like our coaching but recruiting needs improvement.Back to the original comment of wishing we had coaches like dumbo & butch jones. I dont. I'll take Spurrier any day..
I just gotta ask what the hell are you talking about? You dont think our coaches know we need to get the best recruits? Seriously? You think they sit around and dont go after the best recruits possible? Mind boggling.I said recruiters like Butch and Dabo. I like our coaching but recruiting needs improvement.
I'll take our coaches & recruiter's records over dumbo & butch's.I said recruiters like Butch and Dabo. I like our coaching but recruiting needs improvement.
Just imagine how good how are offenses could've been with Deandre Hopkins or Sammy Watkins teaming up with Alshon. That's 2 elite receivers on one team at one time. In order to get to the next level we need to sign players like these in one or consecutive classes. Not one in every 2 classes. It amazes me that as good as Spurrier is a play caller he can't get more elite offensive threats.I just gotta ask what the hell are you talking about? You dont think our coaches know we need to get the best recruits? Seriously? You think they sit around and dont go after the best recruits possible? Mind boggling.
Huh? We beat the brakes off Clemson without them. Again you dont know what you are talking about.Just imagine how good how are offenses could've been with Deandre Hopkins or Sammy Watkins teaming up with Alshon. That's 2 elite receivers on one team at one time. In order to get to the next level we need to sign players like these in one or consecutive classes. Not one in every 2 classes. It amazes me that as good as Spurrier is a play caller he can't get more elite offensive threats.
Again you are missing the point. We beat them because we had the coaching and more talent on defensive line. But with those same offensive players on South Carolina's team we compete for national championships.Huh? We beat the brakes off Clemson without them. Again you dont know what you are talking about.
I just gotta ask what the hell are you talking about? You dont think our coaches know we need to get the best recruits? Seriously? You think they sit around and dont go after the best recruits possible? Mind boggling.
I just talk to a coach from Bishop Moore here in the Orlando area 2 weeks ago. He said Clemson has much more of a presence here in Florida than South Carolina does. They really do a good job recruiting players in Florida.I want to think that we all believe that the coaches do go after the best talent, but it's the way they do it, or not do it, that bothers a lot of us fans. We've all read the comments from recruits who say they haven't heard from the staff in weeks or months. It seems like Spurrier just got on twitter this year, where other coaches have been using electronic medie for years. Etc, etc, etc. A lot of us just think they could step it up with their recruiting efforts.
So clemsux & UT are going to be competing for national champs? because they're world class recruiters? LMAOAgain you are missing the point. We beat them because we had the coaching and more talent on defensive line. But with those same offensive players on South Carolina's team we compete for national championships.
Actually no, I don't think they do think they need to get to the best recruits. They' like to but they don't think they need to. They actually think they can compete being middle of the pack in recruiting their conference every year and they are kidding themselves by thinking that. And because they believe that our, our sunshine pumping fanbase believes that too. That is the entire problem. If our coaches said "2+2 = 32.45" most of our fans would believe it.I just gotta ask what the hell are you talking about? You dont think our coaches know we need to get the best recruits? Seriously? You think they sit around and dont go after the best recruits possible? Mind boggling.
I agree somewhat but not sure I would trade our coaches for either of them. Actually I know I wouldn't. I do hope our next hire is a younger coach
I want to think that we all believe that the coaches do go after the best talent, but it's the way they do it, or not do it, that bothers a lot of us fans. We've all read the comments from recruits who say they haven't heard from the staff in weeks or months. It seems like Spurrier just got on twitter this year, where other coaches have been using electronic medie for years. Etc, etc, etc. A lot of us just think they could step it up with their recruiting efforts.
I just talk to a coach from Bishop Moore here in the Orlando area 2 weeks ago. He said Clemson has much more of a presence here in Florida than South Carolina does. They really do a good job recruiting players in Florida.
Well, some of the younger guys we've hired over the years didn't work out either. As in Sparky and Fat Brad.m
Actually no, I don't think they do think they need to get to the best recruits. They' like to but they don't think they need to. They actually think they can compete being middle of the pack in recruiting their conference every year and they are kidding themselves by thinking that. And because they believe that our, our sunshine pumping fanbase believes that too. That is the entire problem. If our coaches said "2+2 = 32.45" most of our fans would believe it.
Riiight. How about you show us some proof thats the way they operate. But you wont, cause its just you running your mouth again about something you dont have a clue about.Actually no, I don't think they do think they need to get to the best recruits. They' like to but they don't think they need to. They actually think they can compete being middle of the pack in recruiting their conference every year and they are kidding themselves by thinking that. And because they believe that our, our sunshine pumping fanbase believes that too. That is the entire problem. If our coaches said "2+2 = 32.45" most of our fans would believe it.
Remind me how many high schools there are in the state of Florida? You're really gonna base your argument over which school recruits the entire state harder and more successfully by comments from someone involved with one high school???
And BTW, I can confirm to you first hand that when we were recruiting Gilmore, Clowney and the Dixons CU had much more of a presence at SPHS than anyone from USC had. Billy Napier was there practically every week...sometimes more than once a week. And how did that work out?
Do me a favor and do a quick scan of both teams rosters and the number of players each team has from the state of Florida and get back to me on that.
Thx
Only crimes I've heard about from UT would be stealing. As in stealing the rb your team is dreaming of landing.seeing a lot of noise about possible legal problems at UT surrounding Butch Jones. Any of you folks heard any opinions on the topic?
Anyone who disagrees is the one's who is convoluted and delusional. The coaches have made clear they go after the players they like regardless of star ranking, which is fine so long as they do a good job, but the last year shows they've done a lot worse job of recruiting the last few classes than they thought. There is really is no debate about any of that.Well I want to thank for the honest response.
At least now every fan here understands the nature of your convoluted rationale and flawed sense of reasoning, and just how weak your opinions are with this in mind.
Screw you. You show me proof that I am wrong and you aren't just running your mouth. You think things are one way. And I say they are another. Just by what comes out of our coaches mouths and how they operate in everything tell's one plenty. They don't hide how they operate just listen to them. I don't waste my time proving things people should already know and won't listen anyway.Riiight. How about you show us some proof thats the way they operate. But you wont, cause its just you running your mouth again about something you dont have a clue about.
Proof you are wrong is right in front of your face but you are to stupid to see it.Why dont you read the offer list on the best players out there and see if every school in the country has offered them. They go where they want to go and its usually already ingrained in them from friends and family and where they grew up. Not all my mind you but most. So shut your pie hole and get behind your team and quit being a jerkAnyone who disagrees is the one's who is convoluted and delusional. The coaches have made clear they go after the players they like regardless of star ranking, which is fine so long as they do a good job, but the last year shows they've done a lot worse job of recruiting the last few classes than they thought. There is really is no debate about any of that.
Screw you. You show me proof that I am wrong and you aren't just running your mouth. You think things are one way. And I say they are another. Just by what comes out of our coaches mouth and how they operate tell's one plenty.
Anyone who disagrees is the one's who is convoluted and delusional. The coaches have made clear they go after the players they like regardless of star ranking, which is fine so long as they do a good job, but the last year shows they've done a lot worse job of recruiting the last few classes than they thought. There is really is no debate about any of that.
Screw you. You show me proof that I am wrong and you aren't just running your mouth. You think things are one way. And I say they are another. Just by what comes out of our coaches mouths and how they operate in everything tell's one plenty. They don't hide how they operate just listen to them. I don't waste my time proving things people should already know and won't listen anyway.