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DeeDave said:
I don't think online polls are worth anything. Both camps have people running to those polls to vote. I've already seen one that had Trump winning by over 85%. Obviously, supporters are telling people to go vote in those.

I'm more interested in legit focus groups of people that say they haven't made up their mind who they will vote for and have a history of voting for candidates form both parties for President that watch the debate and then say who they think won.

That's why I mentioned the two groups I saw of Pennsylvania voters tonight that had most members picking Harris. That doesn't always mean they will vote for her- but several indicated they likely would.
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I quoted Yahoo News on that online poll.

In the meantime, both my Beagle and Yorkie Terrier are safe in my home.
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DeeDave said:
Scott Jennings, a Republican operative, said it was a Harris night about 10 mins after the debate ended, partly because he thought Trump did so poorly. He also mentioned Trump's selfish nature always gets him in trouble.

Repeating the claim about people eating dogs was batshit nuts. I couldn't believe that fool said that in a national debate. People that don't follow the news that closely (probably the undecided folks) likely thought Trump had lost his mind (which he has). Then he half way tossed Vance under the bus about abortion.

Already saw 2 focus groups mentioned online of undecided Pennsylvania voters. Both groups selected Harris as the winner by 60%.

She did as well as anyone could have expected tonight.

It was hilarious reading some of these things
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If there was a "mercy" rule in debates, they would have called it for Harris after the first 20 minutes.
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ElectricalCock89 said:
Kamala- I don’t want to ban fracking! Also, Kamala, I’m in favor of banning fracking.
Kamala- I don’t believe in border walls, also Kamala, I will fix the border. Never been to the border, but I haven’t been to Europe either…..
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Border wall?? she said quote "that is a Vanity project for Trump"!!! Now she all aboard on it. Tax Tips, she was deciding vote, Now she is against taxing tips.. She cant LIE enough can she!!
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duckcock2.0.0 said:
"Online poll" is kind of vague. Can you provide some clarity? I think Marco Rubio made a good point that actual voters see and analyze things differently than cable news commentators. I think somber people like Brit Hume, who realize what a vacuous, intellectually defunct buffoon Harris is, see her performance as better than it was because she didn't do things like cackle endlessly. Because she didn't come off as the obvious Marxist sewer rat they know she is, their view of her performance is colored.

No one, including you, thinks 69% of people watching think she "won" the debate.

With Trump having a pre-debate lead in Pennsylvania polling, I am suddenly more optimistic about his chances, because if she loses Pennsylvania, she will not be POTUS.

Here's a close one.

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ROFLMAO......... News Channel Eight says Harris WON.... ROFLMAO.... She had that little sarcastic Giggle everytime Trump stated FACTS!! Then she was QUICK to say She wasnt for all of Joe Biden, Yet she was the deciding vote on the Inflation increase act, And the last one in the room begging for the Afghanistan pull out!!
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You know, the more I think about it, the more I can understand how simpletons may think Harris "won" that debate. Like I said, Harris wasn't as mentally impotent as she normally is, so by comparison to her normal self, that made her look better. Plus, people can't help but compare her to Joetato's debate performance. Next to him she looked like Winston Churchill, which gives imbeciles a false sense that she did well. Unfortunately, the reality is the electorate is rife with shallow dullards that don't know any better or don't care, and that is her voter base. So she still has a good chance of winning in November.
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DeeDave said:
Scott Jennings, a Republican operative, said it was a Harris night about 10 mins after the debate ended, partly because he thought Trump did so poorly. He also mentioned Trump's selfish nature always gets him in trouble.

Repeating the claim about people eating dogs was batshit nuts. I couldn't believe that fool said that in a national debate. People that don't follow the news that closely (probably the undecided folks) likely thought Trump had lost his mind (which he has). Then he half way tossed Vance under the bus about abortion.

Already saw 2 focus groups mentioned online of undecided Pennsylvania voters. Both groups selected Harris as the winner by 60%.

She did as well as anyone could have expected tonight.

It was hilarious reading some of these things
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Liar ✔
Racist ✔
Kamala voter✔
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gamecock stock said:
You obviously are in the minority. Online poll has it:
69% Harris
22% Trump
9% neither
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"Online poll" is kind of vague. Can you provide some clarity? I think Marco Rubio made a good point that actual voters see and analyze things differently than cable news commentators. I think somber people like Brit Hume, who realize what a vacuous, intellectually defunct buffoon Harris is, see her performance as better than it was because she didn't do things like cackle endlessly. Because she didn't come off as the obvious Marxist sewer rat they know she is, their view of her performance is colored.

No one, including you, thinks 69% of people watching think she "won" the debate.

With Trump having a pre-debate lead in Pennsylvania polling, I am suddenly more optimistic about his chances, because if she loses Pennsylvania, she will not be POTUS.

Here's a close one.

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duckcock2.0.0 said:
Which debate were you, Brit Hume, and the others with that opinion watching? I don't think either pulled away from the other, but Trump missed several opportunities, I will say that. He didn't even do that great and it was a draw, at worst....or best, depending on who you like. With a three on one debate, it shouldn't have been close.
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You obviously are in the minority. Online poll has it:
69% Harris
22% Trump
9% neither
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gamecock stock said:
Harris kicked Trump's rear end in the debate. Lindsey Graham admits it. Republican pollster Frank Luntz and Fox' Britt Hume acknowledge it was Harris' night. Let's put it this way, in the movie "A Few Good Men", Trump was Jack Nicholson on the stand and Harris was Tom Cruise cross examining him.
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Which debate were you, Brit Hume, and the others with that opinion watching? I don't think either pulled away from the other, but Trump missed several opportunities, I will say that. He didn't even do that great and it was a draw, at worst....or best, depending on who you like. With a three on one debate, it shouldn't have been close.
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uscwatson21 said:
You think the last one was rigged?


Because I don’t believe in limiting people from exercising their most essential constitutional right.
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The last one was NOT rigged. Trump's own Attorney General, Bill Barr, and his DOJ people investigated and found no fraud that would have changed the election outcome. Chris Krebs, Trump's own Director of Cybersecurity, said the 2020 election was the safest and most secure in the history of U.S. elections. And judges including some Trump appointed judges ruled against the Trump campaign in their legal filings in 2020.
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gamecock stock said:
Polls have been wrong in recent years, not just in 2016 and underreporting Trump's strength in 2020, but remember "the big red wave" that was supposed to happen in 2022? If I'm going to pay attention to polls in the presidential race, it will be only in the 7 swing states. And even then, in regards to my chosen candidate, Harris (the opposition gives me no choice), I would only feel confident if she was up by at least 3 points.
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Nonsense. The polls in 2016 were fairly accurate. Just look at the popular vote numbers and compare them to the polls from that time. Trump only won that election by less than 90,000 votes across three states, which is a miniscule number in the total votes cast.
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OT: I'm a member of an Elliott Wave Trading site. I just want to pass along something someone posted today:

"23 years ago today on a Monday my wife called and was sad as she thought she lost her job that day. I said don't worry I'll work from home tomorrow Tuesday and take you out to lunch. And that's how I avoided going to the World Trade Center the next day".

No question that "KevinC", who relayed this story, still had/has work to do on this earth.
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