Anyone else see where Master Ps son, who is attending Tennessee St this Fall, signed for 2 million? Master P said its just like the pros now.
2 million NIL deal
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Somebody just pissed 2 million down a hole. Not seeing that kid as a good investment.
BRB. Will have to google who Master P and his son are
Im going to go out on a limb and suggest that you may not be the target market for the companies using his endorsement.
Hercy Miller, son of rapper Master P, signs $2M endorsement deal ahead of enrollment at Tennessee State
Miller stated that he'll be putting his newfound money back into the community
www.cbssports.com
Yeah, no way this gets out of hand. lol
If just a handful of us Carolina fans could hit the big lottery. Jerry Jones wouldn't be able to buy a team better than ours.
Worst thing in the world that could happen. Now - every sh!t player will mistakenly believe he is just a second away from a million (or multi-million) dollar payday.
If this kid was worth a crap 1) he wouldn't be known as Master Ps son at all...just whatever his name is and 2) he wouldn't be at Tennessee State.
I'm guessing his dad or some company with reach to his dad is involved.
Now all the non starters (and 50% of the starters) on every D1 team can now earn $285 over the course of six months from their "sponsorships".
This kid had offers from all kinds of blue blood programs. He chose TSU to go to an HBCU.
NIL.....is it really worth it to the greater whole of collegiate athletes?
I'm a free market guy. You hope there is something tangible to generate $$s. This goes back to what's most important...the name on the front, or the name on the back. The name on the back wants to USE the name on the front to make money and call it a business decision. Like it or not...every D1 football program is an actual, tangible business. Not just an idea....not just a naive, BS pipedream born out of driving a Ford Escort but wanting to drive a Lambo.
Personally, I hope the NCAA and all related universities greatly reduce the amount university-given benefits and contributions behind the scenes. Since these are "bidness" decisions, these players(kids) and the supporting idiots alike could learn about business and how the real world works.
Take away all food, medical, housing, books and everything else besides tuition payment for them all...and 99% of them would go back to the old system if that were the case. Hey... if you're an independent contractor and YOUR name means so much...let's see how it goes. Also file your own taxes, and actually PAY those taxes owed. Now that you're making real money, let's see how they like paying that tax back.
From a competitive advantage/disadvantage....IF people are dumb enough to support these kids and help them make big money....I'm fully expecting every D1 university in Florida (no state income tax) to rise to a super power in the next 5 years. I know a working student has to file 1040s if making over a certain amount annually. Also, the Clemsons and OSUs of the world...and a few others sitting atop the D1 landscape AT THE TIME this is being introduced will benefit the most from it as well. It guarantees them getting the players/athletes who want the quickest/biggest pay day.
I'm a free market guy. You hope there is something tangible to generate $$s. This goes back to what's most important...the name on the front, or the name on the back. The name on the back wants to USE the name on the front to make money and call it a business decision. Like it or not...every D1 football program is an actual, tangible business. Not just an idea....not just a naive, BS pipedream born out of driving a Ford Escort but wanting to drive a Lambo.
Personally, I hope the NCAA and all related universities greatly reduce the amount university-given benefits and contributions behind the scenes. Since these are "bidness" decisions, these players(kids) and the supporting idiots alike could learn about business and how the real world works.
Take away all food, medical, housing, books and everything else besides tuition payment for them all...and 99% of them would go back to the old system if that were the case. Hey... if you're an independent contractor and YOUR name means so much...let's see how it goes. Also file your own taxes, and actually PAY those taxes owed. Now that you're making real money, let's see how they like paying that tax back.
From a competitive advantage/disadvantage....IF people are dumb enough to support these kids and help them make big money....I'm fully expecting every D1 university in Florida (no state income tax) to rise to a super power in the next 5 years. I know a working student has to file 1040s if making over a certain amount annually. Also, the Clemsons and OSUs of the world...and a few others sitting atop the D1 landscape AT THE TIME this is being introduced will benefit the most from it as well. It guarantees them getting the players/athletes who want the quickest/biggest pay day.
And now, whatever sacrifice that might have entailed will be somewhat counterbalanced.
What's the draw here? He was a 3* with a few notable collegiate offers (LSU, SoCal and UCLA) but it doesn't appear he was highly recruited. I know a lot of this NIL stuff is leveraging social media, but he's only got a couple thousand Twitter followers. Unless he's a real hidden gem, he doesn't appear to be NBA-bound.
The name on the front woundn’t have near the sports value if it were not for the name on the back just saying. They should co exist and also each make money co existing. Just saying
I also agree this will help the top tier now. Clemson, Alabama, OSU will all benefit from this. Clemson and their alumni are willing to spend money that has been apparent as of late.
Why do I have this feeling that all these NIL deals will not end well for players and their family when they file for their taxes next year...
You gotta be kidding about the front and back names. South Carolina football would exist and continue with or without this year's recruiting class or the one from 2000. The program is the control....the players the variable. South Carolina will sell a bunch more #7 jerseys the next time a guy that wears that jersey is really good. They show up to cheer for WHOMEVER is in that #7 jersey...no matter the name on the back.
Every year about half of MOST D1 recruiting classes figure out that they are very average in relation to the group they now exist amongst. The name on the back concept you are talking about is the many incarnations of "pro" football that have been attempted. If the NFL didn't have it's roots in the name on the front concept...it would have folded by now too. But that generation is dying in the next 20-25 years...so.....
Most true fans have a hard time uttering who our starting Right Tackle or Free Safety was in 2018...or even a QB in 2015. This new NIL BS MIGHT shine a spotlight on that 95% of college athletes are overrated and pretty even amongst each other. It's like pro sports....5-8% of guys are freak athletes and the overwhelming majority are a combo of size, good athleticism, hard work/work ethic, attitude and luck.
So, is this a QB and DE only payout opportunity? I can't wait to see how inter-team jealousies work out with this when one guy who isn't as good as another is getting paid more money monthly. Might be some Tonya Harding situations happening.
guaranteed.
By saying names on the back you mean The players and all the players not just cherry picking. Remember if you take out the top tier the ones left become the top tier. Therefore without atheletes there wouldn’t be any sports teams. So yes I meant exactly what I said and no I’m not kidding. Without the athletes the sports programs have zero value.
You also are not paying attention to who is making money because even no names are making money. Some not even in football. So all the shit you are spewing is just that.
LMAO... this is just all part of the welfare mindset some of the country has adapted here recently. Use someone else's or some entity's platform and claim responsibility and feel entitled that you have done something. Tell these great athletes to go play at Gardner Webb and see how much cache they have. All these players are interchangeable....every 3-4 years they cycle out. But everyone under age 25 and those over 25 who still don't have a full time job believe collegiate players are a 'brand' because Paris Hilton types and other no talent social network celebrities have figured a way to live off of other rubes.
I know who is making money. Everybody knows about the little gymnast from LSU. Better still...I know how much money it takes to run a program. FYI: It has nothing to do with limos, cigars, and all the things that the people clamoring for this want to make it. Be careful what you wish for. If you incentivize and give more power to the stupid....it ruins things. Check out the NBA, NFL and MLB. All ruined because guys who couldn't manage a McDonalds drive-through were given enough power to have say in future business avenues.
I appreciate all of the sincere concern for the athletes' wellbeing and financial future. This concern is selfless, I am sure.
$285 over the course of 6 months? Oh NOOO! That is almost $48 a month! They could almost pay for half of a date with that! End of the world is nigh!! 🙄. What kind of moronic garbage are you spewing son? Might want to gather your thoughts before you post- as usual you make ZERO sense.
Their financial future and well being is already taken care of....when they get that $175-200k over a 4-5 year period of the best medical, food, clothing and time of their life as a D1 football player. For 99% of them....it will never be as good again.
How don't casual fans...much less a little more hardcore fans (the ones that grace this site with their time) know this????
Best way to learn is to screw up. The sooner they do, the better. Nothing wrong with a heavy dose of real life at a young age. Lol
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So...3rd grade division is a strong suit for you - congrats.
Yes- that division is precisely the point. For 95% of the entire team.....what do you think they're going to earn from their likeness? Roughly $285 over a six month period maybe...probably?
So, again....is this a special award for 10 college QBs and a couple of other high profile position players annually?
I get it...you think college athletes should be paid. Why don't we go complete welfare system, and make sure that every QB's earnings get split evenly with every other college athlete at his university (women's tennis, golf, equestrian, bowling, squash, shooting, curling, fencing, etc)...to make sure they all get $1,743 per year on average. Isn't that what's this is about? Getting something for nothing? The 50-60k per year value they currently get isn't good enough because it doesn't allow them to drive slowly in a car they can't afford and buy things they don't need?
This whole concept strangely mimics an idiotic social platform of recent. Blame others without taking responsibility for yourself and actions ("we should be getting paid....this is unjust!") and understanding you have the keys in hand with unlimited opportunities and value already provided. Although we should have expected this, given the early platform of the O'Bannon idiots and what part of the country they're from. Things are just peachy in California, right? They really have things figured out over there. This direction is just one more crack in our civilization's foundation.
It guarantees nothing. They should not arbitrarily be cut out of earnings.
ok- I will let it lie. But 100% disagree. Though...it isn't arbitrarily done at all. They play on the field, and get compensated through living the best life on and off the field they ever will in their lives (for the most part). The thousands of alumni and fans generate interest make the event happen.....whether these players are playing or not.
I think they should do a pseudo NBA D league for football...and if a kid wants to go that route he is eligible to. But- going that route forfeits any chance to ever play collegiate football again. That way he can see if he's hype or for real....and college football remains the way it's been in an effort to not bastardize it anymore than has already been done. Also....if these athletes are "the draw"....then they should have no problem making money in this new NFL 'D' league.... and we can see if 80k people still show up to college games for the name on the front, or the name on the back.
I think they should do a pseudo NBA D league for football...and if a kid wants to go that route he is eligible to. But- going that route forfeits any chance to ever play collegiate football again. That way he can see if he's hype or for real....and college football remains the way it's been in an effort to not bastardize it anymore than has already been done. Also....if these athletes are "the draw"....then they should have no problem making money in this new NFL 'D' league.... and we can see if 80k people still show up to college games for the name on the front, or the name on the back.
Lmao, his first sentence, “I’m going to let it lie”. That is followed by 2 paragraphs of more bs.
Again, why are you so against adults making money. Lmao.
Also to answer your post above, who are you to decide what own adults do and do not need. Do you have someone decide what you do and do not need? Everything you have listed that that they “supposedly get” cost the schools pennies on the dollar compared to what the athletes make for the schools. Because again with out the athletes there are not any sports teams. This will be good for college football and help spread the talent instead of all the talent going to 4 or 5 teams and you have zero evidence that it won’t just like I have zero evidence that it will. College football will be just fine. Everyone acts like it’s something new for schools to get in a bidding war over a recruit. I can name several that changed school at the last minute due to money and it’s that obvious. You really need to take a step back and take a Xanax chicken little the sky is not falling. We just getting started and it’s going to be awesome.
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Why do you assume they can't get great medical coverage without going to a D1 program?
I'm not against adults making money...BUT if they're ready for a job like an adult has....hopefully a NFL 'D' league will be created, and they can prove that 1) they're worth whatever draw/money they think they're worth on their own and 2)they will be in an unlimited, free market place with the sky as the limit with absolutely no backing from a university, or affiliation with college athletics.
Why would they need some silly Collegiate Football program? They're the draw, right?
Also...without the university football team, there are no athletes. I'm not sure you are capable of understanding this from more than one perspective....but every year they keep showing up....even while unpaid. Also - how can college football be fine...you said you had zero evidence?
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I'm not assuming they can't get great medical coverage....but if they go take a 75k per year job with benefits....they won't have access to the immediate, and high level physicians and physical trainers that are employed by universities to help make sure athletes are taken care of. Multiple dieticians and nutritionists employed to make sure you're putting in your body the correct amount and caloric intake.
So....besides the ONE of these 85 players on the team becomes a multi-millionaire...the top medical coverage they'll ever have is during the time they have that scholarship from a university while playing football. Your local doc is great and all....but unfortunately it ain't the same type of care/treatment.
Right it’s a symbiotic relationship now where both player and school can benefit. It use to be almost slave labor “kavanaugh words not mine” where only one entity profited while the other was restrained and held back. This is the way it should have been since day 1. You forget the Supreme Court UNANIMOUSLY decided that this business model was against major USA laws.
If choosing the school he chose meant a less cushier lifestyle, that sacrifice might be diminished by what the NIL agreement will afford him.
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