Antonio Williams Twitter

[cockymom2boys]

I make it a rule to not say or post anything about anyone that I wouldn't say to their face.
It is hard sometimes but I think it helps me get over negative things faster. I don't keep stirring the pot. This is something I've learned with age btw lol.

 

[Gaimcock]

Really good post. And my ADD usually doesn’t allow my attention span to read something this long…LOL.

Yeah now! By no means was that post even close to a "Bud Lite" at all!!! =;-p

 

[jedi_mike]

I was just scrolling on Facebook and there is plenty of hate going around on the Clemson side as well.saw it posted on the spurs up show page.

 

[sardis_flash]

I must say , AW picking Clempson in the middle of a coaching exodus really points to it being his dream school . His dream school has lost it OC / DC / Ol & a retiring coach + Director of recruiting . That is 40 % of the staff in numbers but probability 60 - 70 % of the brain trust . The environment there has changed completely .

 

[Gaimcock]

College football has been perverted for a while. Now, it's even more intense and social media adds to it. Just gross. I used to care about recruiting, but I learned pretty quickly that it's a crapshoot. I guess that is the reason this site exists, and I can post this.

I mean really!

Hail, these "groups or businesses" that exist as a means to profit as far covering college athletic recruiting (i.e., football, BBall - Men & Womens - and even Baseball to a minimum extent) pretty much do such based on either which team such writers personally root for, and/or whichever team fanbase these organizations profit the most from.

As far as any totally independent and accurate coverage of such, it ain't exactly an easy find anywhere. I mean I truly doubt such as ESPN and/or Sports Illustrated have neither the time nor the inclination for such; it's ALL ABOUT THE $$ AFTERALL.

JMHIFWIW. Feel free to "slice it, dice it and flush it" should you wish!!

😎😉😇

 

[cockymom2boys]

I just looked at Antonio Williams offer list.
He got offers from 27 schools.
So he didn't just say no to SC.
He said no to 25 others too.

This tells me Clemson was his dream school.
So good for him.
He held out, worked hard, and in the end got what he wanted.

Sometimes it less about you, than the dream/goal the other person has.
I think that is the case with this young man.
Jmho.

 

[Lurker123]

Regardless of when the negative posting occurred, it isn’t helpful.

That is certainly an opinion.

 

[hobcawcreekcock]

I make it a rule to not say or post anything about anyone that I wouldn't say to their face.
It is hard sometimes but I think it helps me get over negative things faster. I don't keep stirring the pot. This is something I've learned with age btw lol.

An excellent practice. MANY of these keyboard ‘warriors’ are mighty brave, and brazen hiding anonymously. It’s a huge downside of this phenomenon called Social Media!!!

 

[Legendary Cock]

Lol... Just because it didn't happen to affect this recruit this time means nothing. One anecdotal episode doesn't change the fact that negativity can be damaging. My original comment in this thread was in response to the original poster confirming that the kids DO see this stuff and it does matter. The fact that those comments happen to have come after he committed to another team is inconsequential to the fact that he did see the comments and they do matter. I stand by my opinion. These things can hurt recruiting.

What your Michigan example proves is that the fans were dead wrong and probably should have shut up all along! So I don't think that confirms your side of the argument at all.

But you go on believing
there's no repercussions for constant negativity. Continue believing your actions are without consequence. Hell of a way to go through life.

Lol. My example simply proves that fans venting on social media has zero effect on the field of play. And you STILL can't provide proof to the contrary.

 

[myrtlecock]

Lol. My example simply proves that fans venting on social media has zero effect on the field of play. And you STILL can't provide proof to the contrary

And you can't prove it doesn't because it's impossible.

Even if I thought I had absolute proof you would probably blame the team playing bad on the coaches. Or Ray Tanner.

Negativity breeds more negativity. I don't care if you believe that or not.

 

[Gamecockfan101]

Screw him he didn’t even give our coaches a chance after they made him a priority and clemscum made him their side chick.

 

[Legendary Cock]

And you can't prove it doesn't because it's impossible.

Even if I thought I had absolute proof you would probably blame the team playing bad on the coaches. Or Ray Tanner.

Negativity breeds more negativity. I don't care if you believe that or not.

YOU were the one making the claim. Therefore the onus is on YOU to provide proof. NOT on me or anyone else to prove the negative.

 

[myrtlecock]

YOU were the one making the claim. Therefore the onus is on YOU to provide proof. NOT on me or anyone else to prove the negative.

All I Said was that the kids see this stuff. His tweet proves that. It's entirely subjective whether or not it factors into his decision and that's something no one could ever know.

But I'm glad you chimmed in because my original post in this thread was saying exactly that you would and that this would be your opinion so kudos. Predictable.

 

[Legendary Cock]

All I Said was that the kids see this stuff. His tweet proves that. It's entirely subjective whether or not it factors into his decision and that's something no one could ever know.

But I'm glad you chimmed in because my original post in this thread was saying exactly that you would and that this would be your opinion so kudos. Predictable.

Yawn. And still no proof.

 

[Lurker123]

All I Said was that the kids see this stuff. His tweet proves that. It's entirely subjective whether or not it factors into his decision and that's something no one could ever know.

That's an interesting take, as I thought you were arguing that it did, in fact, impact recruiting.

I am glad to agree with you then, on that part.

Edit: to be fair though, the particular recruit and maybe his close confidants would know.

 

[WingchunCock]

That is certainly an opinion.

Can you provide a single example of negative posts being helpful?

 

[myrtlecock]

That's an interesting take, as I thought you were arguing that it did, in fact, impact recruiting.

I am glad to agree with you then, on that part.

Edit: to be fair though, the particular recruit and maybe his close confidants would know.

Understanding that I really don't give enough of a crap about your opinion to go to all this trouble I did so anyway.

My main point with my original post on this thread has been proven completely true that you would come here and say none of this matters. It does matter. Read this article. Here I'll copy and paste the last couple of paragraphs from it for you just in case you're too proud to even click the link.

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RecruitingNation surveyed 80 of the nation's top high school football players at the Under Armour All-America Game earlier this month. Of those surveyed, 23 percent said fans on social media influenced their recruiting process. While the majority said they tuned out the noise from the fans, it is still somewhat startling that 1-in-4 admitted it impacted their decision. It's a big enough number to persuade fans to continue to pursue prospects.

"If recruits tell you that it doesn't play some sort of role, they're probably lying," uncommitted ESPN 300 cornerback Kristian Fulton of Metairie (Louisiana) Archbishop Rummel said.

What's social media's true role in recruiting?

Teams use emojis and hashtags. They monitor recruits' Twitter feeds. Recruits broadcast every move and have to hear from fans. For better and worse, social media has taken over recruiting.

www.espn.com

 

[Joe MorrisonLives]

If "social media" has such a strong impact on recruiting why did this kid pick clemmy? Carolina fans kissed his ass right up until he committed to clemp.
Fact is NOTHING any nut or loser on the internet says on social media has anything to do with where these kids sign. They might use it as a crutch/excuse but they go where they want without worrying about any bad tweets or losers and imposters on FGF! posting bad things.

We literally lost out on Helinski's classmate because he got pissed off that some beat-writers dropped the story before he got to give his own reveal and them friends complained that he postponed his announcement after that and he decided he'd rather go somewhere else because grown men were acting like children. You can't site this one thing to say it never happens and that's besides the point that grown ass men shouldn't be giving children gripe anyway.

 

[myrtlecock]

Uh huh. Crickets.

 

[Legendary Cock]

Sorry, but anyone that makes their decision based on random social media posts is probably not ready for prime time.

 

[Lurker123]

Can you provide a single example of negative posts being helpful?

Did I ever say they were helpful? No.

 

[WingchunCock]

Did I ever say they were helpful? No.

You said it was an opinion, as opposed to being a fact. So I asked for an example.

 

[WingchunCock]

Sorry, but anyone that makes their decision based on random social media posts is probably not ready for prime time.

That would be 23% of recruits then. Any Adult who excuses negative posts by claiming they have zero impact are adults only by age and not behavior.

 

[Lurker123]

Uh huh. Crickets.

Sorry I didn't respond fast enough for you, but I don't really give enough of a crap about your opinion to sit by phone waiting for a post.

From your article:
"Whether it's through Facebook, Instagram, Snapchat, Twitter or some other app, social media has invaded every aspect of the recruiting process."

Pretty glaring omission, first of all, with the lack of message boards. And I'm sure you'll conveniently forget that I argued Twitter and message boards were two very different things.

But you also cut your quote a little short. The whole paragraph:

"If recruits tell you that it doesn't play some sort of role, they're probably lying," uncommitted ESPN 300 cornerback Kristian Fulton of Metairie (Louisiana) Archbishop Rummel said. "For me, it's not going to be a big thing I'm making my decision on, but I've learned a lot about the different programs from fans on Twitter. Some of those things were never mentioned by recruiters, and it was helpful to learn about them. Plus, it's cool to have fans from all the different schools showing you the love. You get a chance to see how they'll support you if you went to that school."

So, in the part you cut out, he literally says it's not something he'll make his decision on. At least I see why you cut that part out.

Makes me wonder though why this weak article made you go from "no one will ever know" to the opposite in just a couple posts.

 

[Lurker123]

You said it was an opinion, as opposed to being a fact. So I asked for an example.

I've explained this to you several times. Enough that you have to be intentionally misunderstanding, but I'll repeat it.

Just because I don't think negative posts hurt, doesn't mean I think they help. I literally think they do neither. So it's pointless to ask me for an instance when they help, because I'm not arguing that point.

 

[Lurker123]

That would be 23% of recruits then. Any Adult who excuses negative posts by claiming they have zero impact are adults only by age and not behavior.

The article did not say 23% base their decision on social media. But I'm sure that won't stop you from repeating the story.

 

[Legendary Cock]

That would be 23% of recruits then. Any Adult who excuses negative posts by claiming they have zero impact are adults only by age and not behavior.

Along with standing by my statement, I'll just echo what @Lurker123 said.

 

[Lurker123]

Is this where I type "Uh huh. Crickets", or would that just be silly?

 

[myrtlecock]

Is this where I type "Uh huh. Crickets", or would that just be silly?

No this would be the part where you realize I work very early and go to bed very early.

It would also be the part where I realize you will never admit when you're wrong even when it's smacking you right in the face. You asked for some sort of proof and I gave it to you, and now you won't accept it. People's actions and words have consequences whether they recognize them or own them or not.

I stand by the fact that we still will never really know what made him make his decision. Hell he may not even know himself. That is exactly why it is important to watch what you say. Constant negativity will not help and I don't care which media platform it comes from, you're the only one making some distinction about message boards. I've repeated over and over It's negativity I'm talking about, even if it's just two people talking on the phone.

 

[myrtlecock]

Oh you can best believe there are posters soon to chime in here that will swear to you nothing any of us say or do can possibly affect our team or our chances of success. No amount of posting on message boards, tweeting, Facebook posting, letters to the editor, not even complaining to friends could ever be construed as an overly negative fan base and a part of the kids decision about where he might want to go to school. They will assure you it could never happen.

As predicted.

 

[TAV31]

Sorry I didn't respond fast enough for you, but I don't really give enough of a crap about your opinion to sit by phone waiting for a post.

From your article:
"Whether it's through Facebook, Instagram, Snapchat, Twitter or some other app, social media has invaded every aspect of the recruiting process."

Pretty glaring omission, first of all, with the lack of message boards. And I'm sure you'll conveniently forget that I argued Twitter and message boards were two very different things.

But you also cut your quote a little short. The whole paragraph:

"If recruits tell you that it doesn't play some sort of role, they're probably lying," uncommitted ESPN 300 cornerback Kristian Fulton of Metairie (Louisiana) Archbishop Rummel said. "For me, it's not going to be a big thing I'm making my decision on, but I've learned a lot about the different programs from fans on Twitter. Some of those things were never mentioned by recruiters, and it was helpful to learn about them. Plus, it's cool to have fans from all the different schools showing you the love. You get a chance to see how they'll support you if you went to that school."

So, in the part you cut out, he literally says it's not something he'll make his decision on. At least I see why you cut that part out.

Makes me wonder though why this weak article made you go from "no one will ever know" to the opposite in just a couple posts.

He may not say it, but it's kind of like when a judge tells a jury to forget what they just heard or saw. That's not possible. It may not effect the final decision all the time, but if there's a 20% chance it could, it's better to not take a chance. Personally I think following recruiting closely is not worth it. Too much back and forth and rumors.

 

[Lurker123]

No this would be the part where you realize I work very early and go to bed very early.

It would also be the part where I realize you will never admit when you're wrong even when it's smacking you right in the face. You asked for some sort of proof and I gave it to you, and now you won't accept it. People's actions and words have consequences whether they recognize them or own them or not.

I stand by the fact that we still will never really know what made him make his decision.

Ah, so the lame cricket jokes are only for people who are on your schedule, got it.

As for being smacked in the face with being wrong, I'll point out again how the quote from your own article contradicts your claim.

The bolded part is still a bit odd for you to say too, since you're claiming to have proven otherwise.

And yes, I still maintain the message boards are different from Twitter. Always have, always will. Because it's true.

 

[Lurker123]

As predicted.

Wow. You predicted that people who disagree with you repeatedly would actually disagree with you.

It's like the reincarnation of Ms. Cleo.

 

[cockofdawn]

Sticks and Stones, but words...................................Wait nevermind NO NOT ANYMORE!!

 

[Dizzy01]

It still seems odd that this point is trying to be made based on a Twitter post for a guy who picked the school where their fans on social media said he wasn’t good enough for their program.

Message boards and social media are not the same thing. Unless a guy is a registered user on a message board they aren’t likely to get anything directly from them. Even vanity search alerts will rarely pick anything up from a message board just because they aren’t driving a broad enough number.

Are there some kids that would make a decision based on social media? Maybe. Are these the same kids who are in the portal at the end of year one because they are backup special team guys? Possibly.

 

[WingchunCock]

The article did not say 23% base their decision on social media. But I'm sure that won't stop you from repeating the story.

And nothing will stop you and your band of brothers from continuing your constant negativity.

 

[Lurker123]

And nothing will stop you and your band of brothers from continuing your constant negativity.

That's certainly an opinion.

 

[Goody101]

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Guys, you have to stop bashing kids on Twitter and other platforms. They see this stuff man. If you want kids to come to this school and help the program this is not helping at all. Especially when the kid is at a local powerhouse school that continuously produces good players. Not smart at all.

Got it, but bye Antonio !!!!!!!

 

[myrtlecock]

Ah, so the lame cricket jokes are only for people who are on your schedule, got it.

As for being smacked in the face with being wrong, I'll point out again how the quote from your own article contradicts your claim.

The bolded part is still a bit odd for you to say too, since you're claiming to have proven otherwise.

And yes, I still maintain the message boards are different from Twitter. Always have, always will. Because it's true.

So you really expect this 18-year-old kid to say to God and everybody... "yeah, I was going to go to school A but some of their fans are jackasses online and it hurt my feelings so I changed my mind and I'm going to school B". ??? Ok

 

[coolcock2001]

I begged him to come and told him he was amazing. This is not my fault!